Marriage Equality Super PAC to Back Three House Republicans

  • metta

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    Aug 18, 2012 6:10 AM GMT
    Marriage Equality Super PAC to Back Three House Republicans


    http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2012/08/16/marriage-equality-super-pac-back-three-house-republicans
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 18, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
    Yet another sign that "Times They ARE A Changing". Granted, it's not happening as quickly as any of us would like, but it IS happening. The idea that "We simply MUST vote Democrat or else" is simply bogus.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 18, 2012 2:50 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidYet another sign that "Times They ARE A Changing". Granted, it's not happening as quickly as any of us would like, but it IS happening. The idea that "We simply MUST vote Democrat or else" is simply bogus.
    That is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 18, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 18, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend. That being said, efforts from the left to paint the GOP has nothing but a bunch of anti-gay bigots is becoming an increasingly lame and weak argument.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 18, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend. That being said, efforts from the left to paint the GOP has nothing but a bunch of anti-gay bigots is becoming an increasingly lame and weak argument.
    The difficult task is getting all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs evicted from the GOP. That is going to take a significant amount of time but it is very doable without a doubt.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend. That being said, efforts from the left to paint the GOP has nothing but a bunch of anti-gay bigots is becoming an increasingly lame and weak argument.


    Here I was in agreement with the above, then a more biased political argument made....

    Glad to hear there are republicans who are moderate, flexible and open minded enough to support marriage equality. Hope that will continue to grow as society overall accepts the changes. I think so long as the right wing of the republican party continues to support an optical illusion, I think
    "the left" has reason to make an argument.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:05 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe difficult task is getting all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs evicted from the GOP. That is going to take a significant amount of time but it is very doable without a doubt.


    I'm not sure that "evicting" them is realistic. However, letting them know that they are NOT running the show is doable. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
    Three down, 170 million to go.
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:09 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    CuriousJockAZ saidYet another sign that "Times They ARE A Changing". Granted, it's not happening as quickly as any of us would like, but it IS happening. The idea that "We simply MUST vote Democrat or else" is simply bogus.
    That is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    I will help with this just as soon as I am finished making Hamas and Hezzbollah more Israeli friendly. :-)
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThe difficult task is getting all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs evicted from the GOP. That is going to take a significant amount of time but it is very doable without a doubt.


    I'm not sure that "evicting" them is realistic. However, letting them know that they are NOT running the show is doable. icon_wink.gif


    You should really be sending them that message then, rather than here, because the party keeps selecting people that pander directly to the people roadbikebob is referring to.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
    LIEV saidThree down, 170 million to go.


    Sort of my point.... but with societal changes, lets hope more and more
    members of this party will see the light and change their tune. Glad to see that there are exceptions to the bigoted rule (and to be fair, there are probably a goodly number of elected republicans who really aren't that concerned about it, other than the fact many in their electorate are)
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    Here in Buffalo, we have republican state senator Mark Grisanti who originally was uncomfortable with legalized gay marriage but learned more about the issue and voted for it last year. At this point, I am very satisfied with senator Grisanti's performance in office and feel that he should be reelected to represent the people of New York's 60th senate district.
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidSo now you are all beginning to understand GOPRoud.

    Yes, the times they are a changin.'



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    Aug 18, 2012 3:25 PM GMT

    lol, Jack you're the GOP's worst enemy with your posts. Single-handedly you manage to make being conservative appear quite repulsive.

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said
    HndsmKansan said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend. That being said, efforts from the left to paint the GOP has nothing but a bunch of anti-gay bigots is becoming an increasingly lame and weak argument.


    Here I was in agreement with the above, then a more biased political argument made....

    Glad to hear there are republicans who are moderate, flexible and open minded enough to support marriage equality. Hope that will continue to grow as society overall accepts the changes. I think so long as the right wing of the republican party continues to support an optical illusion, I think
    "the left" has reason to make an argument.


    Yes, the Left has a reason to make an argument - but the Left has no standing with us.


    Be assured, the "radical right" has "no standing" with most democrats.. moderates like myself included....
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    lol, Jack you're the GOP's worst enemy with your posts. Single-handedly you manage to make being conservative appear quite repulsive.


    I guess I can relate to this sentiment because there are some libs here on this site who honestly at times make me want to pray away they gay. icon_eek.gif It would be so nice if we could somehow find a peaceful middle ground to all co-exist in a kind friendly open-minded and accepting manner.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    meninlove said
    lol, Jack you're the GOP's worst enemy with your posts. Single-handedly you manage to make being conservative appear quite repulsive.


    I guess I can relate to this sentiment because there are some libs here on this site who honestly at times make me want to pray away they gay. icon_eek.gif It would be so nice if we could somehow find a peaceful middle ground to all co-exist in a kind friendly open-minded and accepting manner.


    Absolutely agree with the last statement.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:30 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said

    Be assured, the "radical right" has "no standing" with most democrats.. moderates like myself included....



    In fairness, it should be noted that most if not ALL of the conservatives here at RJ have that much patience for "The Radical Right" either. Truth be told, there are factions on both sides of the political spectrum that are an unfortunate cross to bare. This makes life challenging for the majority of us who probably fall somewhere in the middle.
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    You sure about that? 'Cus Southern Republicans are not open minded or gay friendly. I know this from 20+ years of personal experience.


    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend. That being said, efforts from the left to paint the GOP has nothing but a bunch of anti-gay bigots is becoming an increasingly lame and weak argument.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 18, 2012 3:37 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said
    HndsmKansan said
    JackBlair69 said
    HndsmKansan said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    roadbikeRob saidThat is true. Not all republicans are anti gay marriage. But there is still a lot of hard work to do in order to make the GOP more open minded and gay friendly.


    You'll get no argument from me on that my friend. That being said, efforts from the left to paint the GOP has nothing but a bunch of anti-gay bigots is becoming an increasingly lame and weak argument.


    Here I was in agreement with the above, then a more biased political argument made....

    Glad to hear there are republicans who are moderate, flexible and open minded enough to support marriage equality. Hope that will continue to grow as society overall accepts the changes. I think so long as the right wing of the republican party continues to support an optical illusion, I think
    "the left" has reason to make an argument.


    Yes, the Left has a reason to make an argument - but the Left has no standing with us.


    Be assured, the "radical right" has "no standing" with most democrats.. moderates like myself included....


    I don't really care about the "radical right" (however you define that), or its effect on white Liberals (i.e. Democrats).

    GOProud and other like-minded organizations are not obligated to anyone, least of all to Liberals.


    Well I have news for you "buddy".... GOProud (ick) and that kind of attitude is going to get you nowhere, really fast.... you sound like an example of what is wrong with our political process. Instead of working together with the other side to effect a reasonable compromise on an issue, your "don't give a fucking shit" kind of attitude will (hopefully) leave you nowhere.
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    Aug 18, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
    As opposed to the republican mindset of the same exact thing?


    JackBlair69 said
    HndsmKansan said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    meninlove said
    lol, Jack you're the GOP's worst enemy with your posts. Single-handedly you manage to make being conservative appear quite repulsive.


    I guess I can relate to this sentiment because there are some libs here on this site who honestly at times make me want to pray away they gay. icon_eek.gif It would be so nice if we could somehow find a peaceful middle ground to all co-exist in a kind friendly open-minded and accepting manner.


    Absolutely agree with the last statement.


    I am as accepting as anyone. But economic realities cannot be compromised with, and they are actually at the core of all Right/Left arguments, whether immediately apparent or not.

    The Left may want to make "peace," but only on their terms. "Let's all get along" means "agree with us on everything." No thanks.
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    Aug 18, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    HndsmKansan said

    Be assured, the "radical right" has "no standing" with most democrats.. moderates like myself included....



    In fairness, it should be noted that most if not ALL of the conservatives here at RJ have that much patience for "The Radical Right" either.


    Really? From what I've seen on RJ, some here do have great patience for the radical religio-socio-conservative right and I remember quite well the Go Santorum euphoria. As well, the "Oh they don't really mean it." posts over potential leaders with an appalling social agenda.

    As for Jack, if I were a radical lefty I'd be busy here encouraging your posts.



  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 18, 2012 4:52 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    Really? From what I've seen on RJ, some here do have great patience for the radical religio-socio-conservative right and I remember quite well the Go Santorum euphoria.


    I don't recall any "Go Santorum" euphoria coming from anyone here but maybe one who I suspect was doing that for the sole purpose of causing a stir --- something that, admittedly, I thought was also annoying as well and it tried my patience.
  • dancedancekj

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    Aug 18, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    I'm glad to see some Republican senators coming around to the idea of gay equality, having had some good history of supporting LGBT rights as well.

    I personally don't agree with other social issue stances and economic issue stances of the Republicans and therefore I vote Democrat, but my question is this: These senators (who are not able or will not openly support gay marriage and GLBT rights) are going up against Democrats, who already are openly supportive of gay marriage and LGBT rights. The Democratic national platform is going to be affirming gay marriage as one of its issues, while the Republicans will most likely not be.

    I am not saying that I'm not happy that we are seeing support from the Republicans regarding GLBT issues, because I definitely am (and I think that it speaks to us, as gay men, that this issue is picking up speed and resonating with most people, and should be a non-issue relatively soon). For me (as well as I assume many other people) the GOP certainly has a long way to go regarding other issues.

    In my opinion, I'd love to see a new breed of GOP shove the old guard out the door. That way, they could swing a bit more moderate, and the liberals could swing a bit more left to where we are supposed to be as a progressive society and we could actually get some shit done, and I don't feel I have to vote for not-as-batshit-crazy.