Oh Happy Day! Morning Wood Returns!

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    Aug 19, 2012 1:33 PM GMT
    Woke up this morning and could barely believe the return of that old familiar feeling! icon_biggrin.gif And no joking, morning wood has always felt good to me, even when I don't do anything with it.

    The problem was my cancer radiation therapy, and especially the accompanying hormone injections. But that's all been over for months, and I was never made fully impotent, just very slow to respond, and spontaneous erections in my sleep apparently stopped altogether.

    But not today! Like welcoming back an old friend. I threw back the covers to show my partner, already awake, and he confirmed the hardness. [The rest is censored]

    And before you say TMI or any other slams, remember that this represents my continuing return to good overall health, for a guy who's also 63 when ED issues happen from age alone. So this makes me doubly happy. This is also a genuine message for other guys here who may be facing the cancer that I have, as some already have, what to expect over the course of treatment, the good and the bad.

    Therefore sometime today, no fooling, we're gonna go out and drink to my dick, to celebrate his full-time return after a long hiatus with only occasional, highly reluctant cameo appearances. I'll be dropping hints to my partner that a welcome-back gift would be a nice gesture. Any suggestions? Oh happy day! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 3:48 PM GMT
    (old joke...)

    There was once this man in the nursing home slamming his fists on the wall as hard as he could. The nurse came in and asked him what's wrong. He said "my dick just got hard for the first time in 20 years, and my hands are asleep!"

    Congrats on your morning wood, though. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
    paulflexes said(old joke...)

    There was once this man in the nursing home slamming his fists on the wall as hard as he could. The nurse came in and asked him what's wrong. He said "my dick just got hard for the first time in 20 years, and my hands are asleep!"

    Congrats on your morning wood, though. icon_biggrin.gif

    Thanks! We often don't value something enough until we lose it. And even though I never thought I was a guy who focuses overly much on his virility as a basis for self-respect & image, I was kinda sad to think I had passed into the "dead dick" final phase of my life.

    Not only for the lost fun & pleasure, but the daily reminder of my age & mortality. It's like living in a crumbling building scheduled for demolition that you can't escape.

    I'm also waiting for all the cyberbullies here to start bashing me about this thread. As usual they'll fail to realize, some deliberately, that a lot of my threads, even these silly indulgent ones, serve a purpose of informing guys of things that may affect them at some point, maybe already do.

    And the message here is there can be life after dick-death, depending on how you choose to treat your prostate cancer. You wonder if you'll ever see your best friend again, and lo-and-behold, one morning there he is waving back at you. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
    It is something to celebrate, it happens to me on a rare occasion because of E.D. issues, but when it does . . . I'm icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

    Congrats to you and thanks for the joke, Paul.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Aug 19, 2012 6:01 PM GMT
    Ohhhhhhhhhhh Art.

    *shaking my head*
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    Aug 19, 2012 7:49 PM GMT
    You should name your penis Art!..
    Come up witha a clever name..!

    After i named mine we got along so much better!..
    Sometimes i'd be like.. "What's up Pepper?"..
    And i can fell him tingling just to let me know things are cool!

    Everyone..We should come up with a clever name for Art's Penis!!..

    I Say.."Vargon The Virgin Slayer"???
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    Aug 19, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
    I remember when mine returned. It is a happy event.

    Now see if this happens. The damn thing will get painfully hard during the night and wake you up.

    Sorry, I have no clever name for Art's penis.
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    Aug 19, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 saidI remember when mine returned. It is a happy event.

    Now see if this happens. The damn thing will get painfully hard during the night and wake you up.

    Sorry, I have no clever name for Art's penis.

    Well the "damn thing" always used to get painfully hard and wake me up, if it got constricted with the sheets or clothing. That's the reason I started sleeping naked below the waist at around age 14. But as long as I don't fall asleep while still dressed it usually won't wake me.

    As for a name, it's had a name for a while - Caslon. icon_eek.gif

    No, no, no! J/K! There is no name.

    BTW, you say your morning wood also returned. Were you on Lupron testosterone suppression injections, too? I hated that stuff, the sweats were the worse.
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    Aug 19, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    Cheers to your dick. Many happy returns of the day! Seriously, I'm glad for the return of your good health.
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    Aug 19, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
    never felt happier reading a post icon_smile.gif cheers to ya and your wood Mr.artDeco. ..bless ya!

    its great to share happiness ;)
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    Aug 19, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    El_Crankodor saidContinuing the venerable RJ tradition of posting about the goddamndest things. icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Aug 19, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    Congratulations Art -
    That is a great sign that your health - and sex life icon_wink.gificon_rolleyes.gif - are both returning. My late partner had his prostate surgically removed and there was always great rejoicing on the rare occasions his body responded spontaneously rather than with chemical prodding icon_redface.gif
    Your celebratory dinner/party is certainly in ordericon_exclaim.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
    Anocxu saidEveryone..We should come up with a clever name for Art's Penis!!..

    No we should not! I don't want a penis that's cleverer than me. God knows my left nut already is. And besides, looking for names could open a can of worms. (Is that like a kinda weird pun?)

    Although I suppose we could take a taxonomic approach. Like Portobello, for those really big mushrooms. Or Barnacle, which has the proportionally largest penis in the world. But no, what would actually be proposed under that formula would likely be things most notable for their incredible smallness.

    How about Taxi, because the rate meter starts every time it goes into service? No... Seal, because it likes to balance on a ball? No... Romney, because it flip-flops to a new position overnight while I'm sleeping? No...

    Fuck, I give up. icon_mad.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
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    Caslon20000 saidI remember when mine returned. It is a happy event.

    Now see if this happens. The damn thing will get painfully hard during the night and wake you up.

    Sorry, I have no clever name for Art's penis.

    Well the "damn thing" always used to get painfully hard and wake me up, if it got constricted with the sheets or clothing. That's the reason I started sleeping naked below the waist at around age 14. But as long as I don't fall asleep while still dressed it usually won't wake me.

    As for a name, it's had a name for a while - Caslon. icon_eek.gif

    No, no, no! J/K! There is no name.

    BTW, you say your morning wood also returned. Were you on Lupron testosterone suppression injections, too? I hated that stuff, the sweats were the worse.

    No, Lupron didnt work for me. I had Zoladex....which evidently they dont use...I had learned how to operate the spring-operated needle and then teach subsequent nurses how to use it to shoot the time-release capsule into my abdomen cuz they never had used it.
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    Aug 19, 2012 9:10 PM GMT
    I smiled reading your post, Art. Nice to know things are looking UP for you. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 said
    Art_Deco said
    BTW, you say your morning wood also returned. Were you on Lupron testosterone suppression injections, too? I hated that stuff, the sweats were the worse.

    No, Lupron didnt work for me. I had Zoladex....which evidently they dont use...I had learned how to operate the spring-operated needle and then teach subsequent nurses how to use it to shoot the time-release capsule into my abdomen cuz they never had used it.

    The Lupron were every couple of months, starting with a double injection into my stomach. icon_mad.gif But always in the doctor's office, and the site was sore for weeks and lumpy. I think the time-release aspect was accomplished chemically, but I never asked.

    The sweats hit me all day long, like menopause, and nights were the worst, I had to sleep on a bath towel. I also bought some folding fans and carried one with me, another bedside, to cool me down. I'd go into the bathroom at night with the sweat literally dripping off my naked body onto the tile floor, and I'd have to dry myself off with a towel like I had just stepped out of the shower.

    Then a few minutes later I'd be shivering from the damp as my body heat dropped, I'd cover up, then a half-hour later be burning up again, kicking the soaked sheets off me. All night long, never sleeping for more than an hour, usually just 30 minutes.

    In addition to my appearing to be channeling Truman Capote with my wide-brimmed hat (other meds made me sun-sensitive) I'd see people laughing at me in public places when I'd start fanning myself like a southern belle. But now that's stopped as the Lupron effects have faded, allowing my testosterone to rebound, causing the happy result this thread is discussing.
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    Aug 19, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
    El_Crankodor saidContinuing the venerable RJ tradition of posting about the goddamndest things. icon_rolleyes.gif

    And you wouldn't have it any other way. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
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    Aug 19, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    psblond saidCongratulations Art -
    That is a great sign that your health - and sex life icon_wink.gificon_rolleyes.gif - are both returning. My late partner had his prostate surgically removed and there was always great rejoicing on the rare occasions his body responded spontaneously rather than with chemical prodding icon_redface.gif
    Your celebratory dinner/party is certainly in ordericon_exclaim.gif

    Thanks! I had a gay friend I went to visit just before he had a complete prostate removal 7 years ago, to give him some support. He made other arrangements post-op, a combination of family help and home nursing, and being he's a closeted bachelor my extended presence was deemed awkward, so I returned home where I was needed anyway.

    Exactly a year later I came to stay with him again. He was wearing Depends, and despite my best efforts, which were always successful in the past, I couldn't get him hard, or do anything with him.

    Not surprisingly I had never seen him so depressed, and he was drinking very heavily, which likely also didn't help his libido. Finally he started fighting with me over imaginary issues likely caused by the bottle, and eventually ordered me out. I haven't contacted him since.

    When I got my own prostate cancer diagnosis I was given a choice of radiation or surgery. Knowing my former friend's experience I chose radiation, and my post-op sexual side effects were never as bad as his, and are now steadily improving.

    I don't know whether he, or your late partner, were given an alternative to surgery. That's a complex decision based on many factors, which in my case allowed for some patient choice, with the medicine available in 2011 to someone living in this area.

    And I guess my message would be if you are given a choice then think twice before surgery, because it carries the greatest risk of sexual impotence and urinary incontinence, at least as I observed and was subsequently advised by my doctors. And even my procedure did carry some slight impotency risk, but if this morning was any indication, I no longer have anything to worry about. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 19, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    Those who undergo surgery say that the side effects of radiation show up several years later, I haven't seen any. And with the consideration that the nerve bundles that go to Mr Happy pass right over the prostate., I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of them messing around in there. But I've subsequently learned I was early Stage IV so surgery was useless anyway. But the after effects of Zoladex are nothing to sneeze at. It's best to eat your broccoli and avoid the whole damn thing!
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    Aug 20, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    Caslon20000 saidThose who undergo surgery say that the side effects of radiation show up several years later, I haven't seen any. And with the consideration that the nerve bundles that go to Mr Happy pass right over the prostate., I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of them messing around in there. But I've subsequently learned I was early Stage IV so surgery was useless anyway. But the after effects of Zoladex are nothing to sneeze at. It's best to eat your broccoli and avoid the whole damn thing!

    But I DID eat my broccoli! I LOVE broccoli! And all kinds of good things and few bad, and still got prostate cancer. Actually I think it was my long history of chronic prostatitis, even though the doctors tell me no definite link has been established to date. That, and perhaps a family weakness for it, since this same thing killed my Father.

    What are the later side effects of radiation? All I was told was that the chance for a recurrence increases after about 20-25 years following treatment (of course based on older techniques, and mine was the latest).

    That's why radiation is often not recommended for younger men, who have too many years life expectancy remaining, nor for very old men, who have so few years remaining even without cancer that an active surveillance approach is used, possibly with hormone suppression to slow the cancer. The reasoning is that the costs, stress and decreased quality of life due to side effects are not justified if little or no additional years will be added to an older patient's life expectancy.

    But someone my age may fall right in the middle, where radiation is just right, and also depending on the evaluation of the cancer itself. I would be in my mid-80s before I might expect its return, when there may be other approaches available, or when active surveillance is deemed adequate for the balance of my life.
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    Aug 20, 2012 12:12 AM GMT
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    Yeah, and to think there was a time when I and other young enlisted soldiers living in barracks were embarrassed to get morning stiffies, a liability. We'd lie in bed trying to make them go away, even as the Drill Sergeants were yelling at us to get up. Problem was we WERE up, but too shy to show it.

    In my barracks the problem was solved when one bold Private said he didn't care any more, it was a natural reaction, and he walked stark naked to the latrine with his "piss hardon" pointing the way. After that the rest of us started to do the same thing, without fear anyone would call us queers. No wonder I have such fond memories of my Army days. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 20, 2012 12:29 AM GMT
    Well we went down the same road as we chatted about before, but I got off easier with just radiation treatments. I'm having fun now too, but it's still not like i used to be. Thanks for giving me hope!
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    barriehomeboy saidWell we went down the same road as we chatted about before, but I got off easier with just radiation treatments. I'm having fun now too, but it's still not like i used to be. Thanks for giving me hope!

    Well I don't expect it to be totally like it was. After all, my prostate has essentially been fried, so ejaculations will continue to be dry. To kill the cancer they had to destroy the prostate, too - it doesn't work anymore. It was a goner no matter what they did, there was too much cancer in too many places for limited surgery.

    And even limited surgery runs the risk of severing or damaging the nerves that control your dick and your bladder sphincter, which as Caslon notes, run all through that region. But radiation has a better chance of leaving those nerves functional. Especially the cutting-edge computer-controlled radiation I received, which actually shaped the rays being beamed from 360 degrees around my body, to the exact form of my prostate using 3-D modeling, to avoid healthy surrounding tissue, including those critical nerves.

    I even had registration marks tattooed in my pelvic area, and was placed in a partial custom body mold to produce precise alignment for each session, during the 6 weeks of daily treatments.

    Whereas my partner's radiation treatment available 8 years ago was much less precise, just a cone-shaped beam that was directed from his front only, like having a static X-ray taken. Yet today he remains 100% cancer free, his PSA level undetectable. Suggesting my own results with much more advanced equipment will be as good.

    So that what's returning now is my libido, that was suppressed when the Lupron injections stopped my testosterone production. The last injection was in February, and it's taken all this time for the testosterone to begin to recover. I'll be getting a check on its level in a few weeks.
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    Aug 20, 2012 1:29 AM GMT
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    Caslon20000 said But I've subsequently learned I was early Stage IV so surgery was useless anyway. But the after effects of Zoladex are nothing to sneeze at. It's best to eat your broccoli and avoid the whole damn thing!


    Prostate cancer doesn't use the standard stage one through stage four. The Gleason scale is used and is a scale between one to ten. What was your staging according to the Gleason scale?

    Or were you implying that your stage four was in fact according to the Gleason scale? Cuz other cancers like stage four breast cancer or lymphoma are almost always fatal.

    Prostate Cancer can be described by both scales. Reading the desription below, I would say I was more Stage III than IV, but he said early IV. Anyway, it was plenty late enough. 6 months before too late, I was told. And this all happened within 2 years, which is extremely fast growth for prostate cancer. The doc said it had been a long time since he had seen such contorted cells.

    You're right...almost always fatal. Doc said I had had 29% (or 27%, I cant remember) chance of survival. My Gleason was 9 (5+4) and my PSA was 19.3. And I can say with absolute certainty that the therapy was god-awful.


    The TNM System for Prostate Cancer Stages
    As they do for most cancers, doctors use the TNM system of prostate cancer stages. The prostate cancer stages are described using three different aspects of tumor growth and spread. It’s called the TNM system for tumor, nodes, and metastasis:
    T -- for tumor -- describes the size of the main area of prostate cancer.
    N -- for nodes -- describes whether prostate cancer has spread to any lymph nodes and to what extent.
    M -- for metastasis -- means distant spread of prostate cancer, for example, to the bones or liver.

    There are other ways of classifying prostate cancer, such as the Gleason system. Sometimes, the TNM system and Gleason score are combined together to describe prostate cancer stage.

    Prostate Cancer Stage I

    In stage I, prostate cancer is found in the prostate only. Stage I prostate cancer is microscopic; it can’t be felt on a digital rectal exam (DRE), and it isn’t seen on imaging of the prostate.

    Prostate Cancer Stage II

    In stage II, the tumor has grown inside the prostate but hasn’t extended beyond it.

    Prostate Cancer Stage III

    Stage III prostate cancer has spread outside the prostate, but only barely. Prostate cancer in stage III may involve nearby tissues, like the seminal vesicles.

    Prostate Cancer Stage IV

    In stage IV, the cancer has spread (metastasized) outside the prostate to other tissues. Stage IV prostate cancer commonly spreads to lymph nodes, the bones, liver, or lungs.

    Accurately identifying the prostate cancer stage is extremely important. Prostate cancer stage helps determine the optimal treatment, as well as prognosis. For this reason, it’s worth going through extensive testing to get the correct prostate cancer stage.

    http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/guide/prostate-cancer-stages