Gay Marriage in Mexico Soon to Be a Reality

  • metta

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    Aug 22, 2012 5:30 AM GMT
    UPDATE:

    Gay Marriage in Mexico Soon to Be a Reality

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981799489



    Original:

    Mexican States Ordered to Honor Gay Marriages

    (article from 2010) Sorry about that. I have no idea why it was in today's news feed.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/world/americas/11mexico.html?_r=2
  • Sportsfan1

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    Aug 22, 2012 10:30 AM GMT
    Once again you posted an article that is noteworthy. This is a step in the right direction. If a country with a "macho" culture like Mexico can have legal same-sex marriage then a more progressive country like the USA will not be far behind. Of course there will be opposition from some of the more conservative elements. The Mexican Supreme court took a brave but correct stand in recognizing the legal issues regarding same-sex marriages performed in Mexico City. Good for them!
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    Aug 22, 2012 10:37 AM GMT
    Now we know why Jerk Brewer doesn't want Mexicans in AZ...they might be gay! icon_eek.gif
  • shawn06

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    Aug 22, 2012 10:50 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidNow we know why Jerk Brewer doesn't want Mexicans in AZ...they might be gay! icon_eek.gif


    Oh paulflexes, you've become such and Arizonian its awesome. Ever come up to Phoenix? Come up and hang out sometime icon_razz.gif.
  • PBLH

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    Aug 22, 2012 10:52 AM GMT
    This is awesome...
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:00 AM GMT
    O_O

    Mexico surpasses the U.S. on civil rights? Fantastic!
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:25 AM GMT
    Trollileo said
    credo saidO_O

    Mexico surpasses the U.S. on civil rights? Fantastic!
    That was my reaction. For a predominantly Catholic nation they sure kicked our ass in the realm of marriage equality.


    I though so. Fuck here in Panama that is far from happening.
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    Horale! A ver cuando regreso al píes de mis abuelos!
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:02 PM GMT
    Applying the rule of law to everyone equally: what a novel idea. I wish we'd thought of it.

    Congrats to our southern bordering brethren. Lead the way.
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:03 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said
    Sportsfan1 saidOnce again you posted an article that is noteworthy. This is a step in the right direction. If a country with a "macho" culture like Mexico can have legal same-sex marriage then a more progressive country like the USA will not be far behind. Of course there will be opposition from some of the more conservative elements. The Mexican Supreme court took a brave but correct stand in recognizing the legal issues regarding same-sex marriages performed in Mexico City. Good for them!


    Brave? It was kind of a pussy move. It would have been much more brave to listen to what each individual state had to say about it.


    How do you know they didn't? As well, not all that long ago your States were 'ordered' to accept interracial marriages.

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    Aug 22, 2012 3:11 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    JackBlair69 said
    Sportsfan1 saidOnce again you posted an article that is noteworthy. This is a step in the right direction. If a country with a "macho" culture like Mexico can have legal same-sex marriage then a more progressive country like the USA will not be far behind. Of course there will be opposition from some of the more conservative elements. The Mexican Supreme court took a brave but correct stand in recognizing the legal issues regarding same-sex marriages performed in Mexico City. Good for them!


    Brave? It was kind of a pussy move. It would have been much more brave to listen to what each individual state had to say about it.


    How do you know they didn't? As well, not all that long ago your States were 'ordered' to accept interracial marriages.

    Most foreign countries people could give a damn less. Especially when people have too rely on their neighbors for survival, and their rest of the progressive FirstWorldNations are leaning toward Tolerance/Acceptance.
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    Yeah, because civil rights are up for debate. How come it's not everyone's rights up for debate, just homosexuals? I don't give a shit if they were "ordered". This is a civil rights issue...not everyone is going to want to comply (jim crowe laws) but too bad. We're moving forward.

    btw...that whole "what if they ordered blah blah blah"...guess what, they already did. DOMA?
    Yeah, so you can take that weak shit to the park where maybe the squirrels will care.


    JackBlair69 said351px-Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg.png

    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Much more healthy for a nation in the long run.
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidYes, congratulations on being "ordered" to do this.
    Yeah.. fucking ORDERED to give equal rights to humans.. You bet your ass.. and you are gonna see that same order given to YOU. And i cant wait!
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:37 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidSo you are saying that you would like for our Supreme Court to order states to recognize gay marriage?


    YES "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
    "all men are created equal"
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said
    JR_RJ said
    meninlove said
    JackBlair69 said
    Sportsfan1 saidOnce again you posted an article that is noteworthy. This is a step in the right direction. If a country with a "macho" culture like Mexico can have legal same-sex marriage then a more progressive country like the USA will not be far behind. Of course there will be opposition from some of the more conservative elements. The Mexican Supreme court took a brave but correct stand in recognizing the legal issues regarding same-sex marriages performed in Mexico City. Good for them!


    Brave? It was kind of a pussy move. It would have been much more brave to listen to what each individual state had to say about it.


    How do you know they didn't? As well, not all that long ago your States were 'ordered' to accept interracial marriages.

    Most foreign countries people could give a damn less. Especially when people have too rely on their neighbors for survival, and their rest of the progressive FirstWorldNations are leaning toward Tolerance/Acceptance.


    Yes, this reminds of me of when the UN patted itself on the back for "saving" the gorillas in Congo. Meanwhile, four million humans had perished there due to civil war.

    So the Mexican Supreme Court has busied itself with rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
    Did you just pass on facts and life experience for metaphors and conjecture?icon_neutral.gif
  • slimnmuscly

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    Aug 22, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said

    Yes, I am happy for all the gay couples who want to marry in Mexico. But I abhor the way it was accomplished.


    You abhor the way it was accomplished -- by the Mexican court charged with interpreting the Mexican constitution doing so. Do you abhor the court for complying with its own country's constitution, or do you abhor it for violating some article of the Mexican constitution you have yet to share with the class?

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    Aug 22, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidYes, congratulations on being "ordered" to do this.
    Any change to the Constitution has been, and forever will be an "Order", being that it IS The Law Of The Land. I believe you fear governmental rule, more than the actual "order" it'self.
    You can't stand to reason, so I won't bare mine out to you anymore. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
    slimnmuscly said
    JackBlair69 said

    Yes, I am happy for all the gay couples who want to marry in Mexico. But I abhor the way it was accomplished.


    You abhor the way it was accomplished -- by the Mexican court charged with interpreting the Mexican constitution doing so. Do you abhor the court for complying with its own country's constitution, or do you abhor it for violating some article of the Mexican constitution you have yet to share with the class?

    Jackassblair is a GOP buttrecepticle. What did you expect it to regurgitate?
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
    Jack, US history shows that civil rights issues are decided via either a SCOTUS ruling or a Constitutional amendment. Since I don't see equality making it to the Constitution any time soon, SCOTUS will decide the fate of gay marriage in the USA.
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    Aug 22, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    shawn06 said
    paulflexes saidNow we know why Jerk Brewer doesn't want Mexicans in AZ...they might be gay! icon_eek.gif


    Oh paulflexes, you've become such and Arizonian its awesome. Ever come up to Phoenix? Come up and hang out sometime icon_razz.gif.
    I was going there every weekend for a while, but then got caught up in other things that keep me busy here in the dust bowl.

    However, I've only got 2 weeks left here, so I'll be going to Phoenix this weekend to say my goodbyes to everyone.
  • fitone

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    Aug 22, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
    Jack,
    You'd better get used to it. It's only a matter of time until it's a Federally recognized right!
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    Aug 22, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    Well I live in Mexico City, and actually I can tell you that (idk if it's the social circle where I am in) the "macho" image is just a stereotype, I've had no problem with my straight friends or my family by telling them I'm gay. Actually, you can see gay couples holding hands in my University. So it's in general an open minded society here in Mexico City, IMO.
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    Aug 22, 2012 9:55 PM GMT
    Yay! Spread the love!
  • t0theheights

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    Aug 22, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said351px-Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg.png

    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Much more healthy for a nation in the long run.


    Self-hating homosexuals drunk on the conservative kool aide are the worst, and impossible to argue with... so don't bother.

    This is a great achievement for Mexico, and for gay rights around the globe. Civil rights are not up for debate, discussion, or a vote -- they are inherent to us all as dignified human beings -- and any constitution that asserts equal rights and equal protection for all immediately commands that marriage rights must be extended to gay couples as well as straight couples. Let's hope the US Supreme Court shares the Mexican court's wisdom.

    As many have pointed out, the court system almost always is the one to advance civil rights--as we saw with interracial marriage. Only when the marriages start happening do the only-somewhat bigoted straights begin to see that the sky in fact will not fall, and only then will support for same-sex marriages shoot through the roof.
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    Aug 22, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidYes, congratulations on being "ordered" to do this.


    What's next? Jews voting?