What next?

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    Aug 16, 2007 1:56 PM GMT
    OK, I've sort of plateaued on my self-improvement program, and I'm wondering what to do next.

    I'm on a very controlled diet, I do a 90 minute cardio programme five days a week, a ballet class and an Ashtanga yoga class on my other days, and I do weight training for about 45 minutes every other day.

    I'd like to lose a little more fat around my middle and build my extremities up a bit more. More cardio or more weights? What do ye of the exquisite bodies think?
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    Aug 16, 2007 9:14 PM GMT
    Well, I guess the first question should be: How varied is your self-improvement program and how long have you been following it? The key to breaking any plateau, in my opinion, is to vary what it is you're doing. If that means changing "programs" so be it...let your body be your guide.

    I also can't help but wonder what you mean by a "very controlled diet"? Are we talking quantity control, selection control or what? What kind of foods do you eat?

    On the losing fat/building extremities front, I'd say cut down on the cardio and up your weight training. Over time cardio can be a great way to achieve cardiovascular fitness and maintain great tone, but I find if contraindicative to building muscle of size...especially when you do it on the scale you mentioned. I'm not saying don't do it...quite the opposite...just skew in favor of weight training.

    My best advice, if you can afford it, would be to talk to a dietician and/or a trainer as he/she/they would be able to specifically tailor a goal-oriented program to you, which would surely translate into great results! Even if you don't stick with them (read: keep paying for their input) you will surely receive a great outline to follow which would be a great asset moving forward.





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    Aug 16, 2007 9:55 PM GMT
    I have the same problem. My body weight and fat ratio kinda stay the same. Its been like that for months now. Strangely I feel, and look thinner, more defination, can wear smaller size pants. But it didnt show on the scale. I guess I have to be happy with was I have achieve so far and keep doing what I am doing.
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    Aug 16, 2007 10:53 PM GMT
    Zakariahzol

    Congrad! You really should not rely on the scale anyway, as muscle is heavier than fat but it is denser so it takes up less space.

    How do you know that your body fat/lean mass ratio has not changed...? Skin calibers only do a general measurement. The accurate way to measure lean body mass is under water, with giatn and expensive equipments that only research facilities have... So you may have already changed your body composition that you are not aware of. Smaller size, but same weight = you are denser = less fat more lean body tissue.

    Weight is only meaningful to a certain degree... It is how you feel and look that really matters!
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    Aug 17, 2007 11:28 AM GMT
    I have one of those weighting scale that can calculate my weight, fat ratio, water level, muscle mass, calories burn, fiscal fat (fat around my vital organ) and my health ages. I not really confident to reveal my result now (but I promise to mention it latter) . This machine is expensive but really worth it. It a way for me to monitor my progress.

    But just like I mention earlier , it really frustrating when the scale, fat ratio, all those reading kinda not changing (sometime I think is must be broke). This is despite all the compliment I receive from friend, my own observation in the mirror, my downsizing of the cloth I wear. I am not complaining though, what matter is I feel great, I feel more confident (and sexy) and healthier. The hell with those reading on the scale.
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    Aug 17, 2007 10:07 PM GMT
    Trust me, I am in this field of study, there is no such machine that can do that without the boyancy of water...

    Your machine maybe expensive, but it is possibly relying on a simplistic and static and therefore highly unreliable mathmatical equation. You simply cannot generate an accurate data of lean body mass to fat ratio by only a scale on dry land... How would this scale determine your weight from water or calories burned?? And water is in all tissues... How does the scale know what activites you have done for the day post the last weight reading or your metabolic/endocrine/neurological functions??Sorry to say, I think you may have been scamed by some company pushing products that do not do what they claim, at all....
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    Aug 18, 2007 3:30 AM GMT
    Thank you for educating me. There some truth to that. Sometime I wonder myself, how come a machine come up with all those figure just by standing on it. Anyway I bought it for a few month already. I be more careful next times.
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    Aug 18, 2007 4:30 AM GMT
    Trust how your clothes fit more than anything else, wonder scale or not...
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    Sep 25, 2007 7:51 AM GMT
    Some scales that use electrical transduction (or something like that... they pass low current through the body and measure the resistance) can give you a pretty good idea of body fat percentage and weight... better than the fat caliper method, at least.

    However, nothing is as accurate as the bouyancy (water) method mentioned in above posts.

    Since I don't have access to that kind of facility, I use the scales I mentioned above along with the fit of my clothes to get a fairly good estimate of body composition. Once I get closer to where I think I should be, my doctor has offered to hook me up with the bouyancy thing. I love my doctor... too bad he's straight... LOL

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    Sep 25, 2007 8:21 PM GMT
    colm is that for real bearing in mind your other post on not eating solids for a year? Yuo are gonna struggle to lose anything as your metabolism must be as dead as a dodo, you are gonna struggle to build as your body is not processing food efficiently. You sure as hell would struggle to bulk on the cardio you are doing now

    Either you are just posting stuff for the hell of it or you need to entirely rethink your strategy from scratch starting with your eating habits