Plagiarism Exposed?

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    Aug 23, 2012 10:41 AM GMT
    Did James Cameron Rip Off Poul Anderson’s Novella?Should the similarities between Avatar and Call Me Joe cause problems for Cameron, it wouldn't be the first time. After The Terminator came out, writer Harlan Ellison sued the production company for plagiarizing two episodes he wrote for The Outer Limits. Even though Cameron took Ellison's ideas in a very different and novel direction, the company settled with Ellison, who is now acknowledged in the film's credits.

    Avatar may be, by and large, an original film, much as The Terminator is. But there may be firmer roots beneath his story than Cameron has acknowledged thus far.


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  • calibro

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    Aug 23, 2012 11:08 AM GMT
    avatar is pocahontas in space

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    Aug 23, 2012 1:37 PM GMT
    calibro saidavatar is pocahontas in space



    That is so true.
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    Aug 23, 2012 4:52 PM GMT
    Fern Gully.

    Also all this plagiarism shit that happens when a big movie or big book get publicity is stupid. Every is constantly influenced by something. The people who claim ownership of a native "savage" opening the eyes of the "other" isn't copyrighted.
  • Lincsbear

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    Aug 23, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
    I think there are some striking similarities between Cameron`s 'Avatar' and Ursula le Guin`s novel 'The Word for World is Forest' (1973). In the latter, humans have come to a idyllic alien world with humanoid aliens and seek to exploit the planet`s resources and its people in harsh and cruel ways; in effect, colonization. Among other things, the aliens possess an alternate, virtual reality, but not based on technology, but biology. One of the human characters explores this world.
    All the names and places have changes but the plot and sentiments of the film are remarkably like the novel. For example, the good human with loyalties to both sides in a conflict.

    One of the obvious differences between them is le Guin`s aliens are green and Cameron`s are blue!

    All this really shows is that despite being very open about things, SF has a rather limited number of tropes(situations, characters, technologies, effects, etc.) that get endlessly recycled by each new generation as they are influenced by previous ones; sometimes consciously, other times unconsciously.

    Indeed, to be 'borrowed from' is a compliment as you have made an impact on someone. Just let the followers be honest about their inspiration.
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    Aug 23, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    Avatar was a well made good movie. But the story was predictable and simply chugged on with no mystery or surprise. Also I more or less guessed the ending towards the beginning of the movie. I never felt it as a great movie as most people did.
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    Aug 23, 2012 8:53 PM GMT
    calibro saidavatar is pocahontas in space


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    Aug 23, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
    TellMeMoar saidAvatar was a well made good movie. But the story was predictable and simply chugged on with no mystery or surprise. Also I more or less guessed the ending towards the beginning of the movie. I never felt it as a great movie as most people did.


    At the risk of political correctness, my bf and I call it Avatarded. Between that and Prometheus I think big--budget sci fi movies have really tanked.
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    Aug 23, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
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    TellMeMoar saidAvatar was a well made good movie. But the story was predictable and simply chugged on with no mystery or surprise. Also I more or less guessed the ending towards the beginning of the movie. I never felt it as a great movie as most people did.


    At the risk of political correctness, my bf and I call it Avatarded. Between that and Prometheus I think big--budget sci fi movies have really tanked.

    I liked Prometheus. icon_razz.gif I saw it for the second time last week. After reading a few reviews on time.com (entertainment) and http://www.prometheus-movie.com/review/ I understood things bit better as some things began to make more sense. But yes it could have been a better movie but so could a lot of other movies.
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    Aug 23, 2012 9:19 PM GMT
    LOL. Yes, Avatar was a stunning film visually. No contest there. However, plot wise, it was extremely similar and pretty much considered a hyped up "Pocahontas in space" and "Fern Gully with an extraterrestrial feel to it".

    I liked Prometheus actually. I enjoyed it very much. So much that I ended up searching online for a bunch of Alien graphic novels. Apparently there are a lot of them and they all seem pretty good. I just wish I could find a site so I could read them online instead of having to buy them.

    From my understanding, Prometheus takes place after Alien but happens before Aliens. The timeline tripped me up a bit but if your your math is good and you can figure it out and then it all makes sense. Could it have been better? Sure it could've. What movie couldn't be better? In lieu of all the though it could've been a lot worse but for the most part it was good.
  • Lincsbear

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    Aug 24, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
    Cameron`s films seem like extended advertisements for the technology of special effects.
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    Aug 25, 2012 4:44 AM GMT
    There really aren't any new plots.

    What makes a book or other work of art unique is what the creator does with it.

    Sometimes it's easier to settle than to fight in the courts.
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    Aug 25, 2012 5:01 AM GMT
    My high school english teacher used to challenge her classes to find ANY contemporary story with an original plot. Nobody ever won the bet.