Why should stupid people be allowed to vote?

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    Aug 24, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
    I don't think really stupid and religious people should be allowed to vote because they have a much lower IQ on average. It's not discrimination, it's science.

    Let me put it another way...before a person votes they should have to take an IQ test. I think your IQ should be 95. I base this on the fact that 95 seems to be the breaking point in which a person becomes non stupid.

    If you look at many eastern european countries their average IQ is around 91. Then in western Europe it's in the high 90's and up to and over a 100.

    95 and up seems to be the level where moronic things like homophobia and religious extremism are eliminated. Maybe it needs to be even higher than 95 I'm not sure.

    I think it's only fair to value a person's opinion based on their intelligence.
  • Laurence

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    Aug 24, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
    Why stop there? Maybe stoopid people shouldn't be allowed to have kids. Then they'd probably die out altogether and only intelligent people would exist (I'm being sarcastic)

    The problem with your argument is that intelligent people sometimes vote in stupid ways. A lot of the Republicans on RJ are probably intelligent, but they'd vote for a bigoted party before they'd vote for equality for their Gay brothers and sisters.

    Things are never that simple.

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    Aug 25, 2012 5:17 AM GMT
    I might suggest researching the history of eugenics, particularly before the Second World War. Scary stuff. I am a bit curious as to how intelligence is linked to particular political views beyond anecdotal evidence or questionable methodology.

    I would also suggest looking into what an IQ test actually measures. You might be surprised. It is also interesting to learn about the lives of high IQ individuals. Many are not as successful as one might expect. Perhaps only east-Asians should be allowed to vote since they have the highest average IQ, or perhaps we can include Jews since their average IQ is quite high.

    It would be interesting to ban religious people. What other views should be banned? Maybe it could change depending on who is in power?

    Or, just possibly, we could accept that in a free society not everyone will agree with us, and that some people cannot be reasoned with either because of intelligence, internal bias, or even a lack of interest. Part of the power of our civilization is that we take new ideas from all comers, and throw them into the free market and let them find their way. Sometimes good ideas die and bad ideas thrive. But, overall, I think that diversity of opinion, skill, and intelligence make our society strong and successful. Even if this is not true, I am fearful of allowing any group the power to limit the vote or voice of any other group.
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    Aug 25, 2012 5:46 AM GMT
    That's a slippery slope none of us should want in place or to even consider, because what we allow to happen to someone else, will certainly come back on us as circumstances change.
  • Webster666

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    Aug 26, 2012 7:12 AM GMT
    KIndness, common sense, and a desire to do what's best for our people and our land, air and water, don't always accompany intelligence.

    And, negative factors, like racism, religious extremism, and just plain greed, sometimes DO accompany intelligence.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 26, 2012 8:13 AM GMT
    Why should stupid people be allowed to vote?

    Probably because the alleged know-it-alls seem to have a knack for fucking everything upicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 26, 2012 9:05 AM GMT
    We saw in history how eugenics solved the problem of low IQs (sarcasm). The problem is you can't just establish an arbitrary number on an IQ and determine with that whether a person can or cannot vote. IQ tests vary considerably in assessment, and not all can accurately measure a person's IQ or mental capacity. Furthermore, not all people who have mental handicaps are homophobic or the like.

    Eugenics also demonstrated that a society cannot practice "racial hygiene" to eliminate those conditions that can result in such handicaps. They are often the result of random genetic problems and mutations.

    And what about people who, say, have abilities in one area and deficits in another, like autists? Perhaps they may lack theory of mind or understanding of social cues, but have extraordinary abilities in science, math, art, music, etc. Does that constitute one as being intelligent or not? To exclude in such a black and white manner in the context of a world with a large spectrum of shades of gray...We shouldn't exclude those whose opinion is different. We have to argue our cases, we must persuade and help them understand to the best of our ability. To ban outright undermines the whole political purpose of expression of opinions.
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    Aug 26, 2012 11:51 AM GMT
    Ugly people should not be allowed to vote.
    And people with extra toes.