Fundi Preachers >> ADDED CHARGES OF GOD'S RATH sent by Hurricane ISAAC >> GAYS ON THE HOOK this time because their GOD IS PISSED

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    Aug 27, 2012 12:27 AM GMT





    Did GOP, Obama actions prompt Isaac?

    Author links hurricane to policies toward Israel
    Published: August 26,2012

    TAMPA, Fla. – Could Hurricane Isaac’s disrupting of the Republican convention here be tied to recent policy decisions by the GOP leadership and Barack Obama?

    That question is being raised by Bible prophecy expert William Koenig, whose book, “Eye to Eye: Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel,” links catastrophic hurricanes hitting the U.S. with changes in policy toward Israel.

    Koenig points out that on Tuesday, the day Isaac formed as a tropical storm, the Republican platform committee voted to add a “two-state” position pertaining to Israel for formal convention approval. Earlier, a pastor on the Republican platform committee offered an amendment for a one-state solution to the dispute between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs with no land concessions by the Jewish state.

    But former Sen. Jim Talent, R-Mo., quoted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to demonstrate that the original platform language was consistent with the Israeli position. Talent was supported in his successful bid to defeat the amendment by Rep. Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, better known as AIPAC.

    “This is the second straight Republican convention postponed due to a major hurricane,” points out Koenig. “And this is the third straight Republican convention that became secondary news due to a hurricane. Bush was pressuring Israel during the times of the 2004 and 2008 conventions.”

    Koenig links all three convention disruptions to platform committee decisions to support further division of the land of Israel to pave the way for the creation of a Palestinian state

    Koenig also sees significance in the fact that Isaac, the name of Abraham’s son and Jacob’s father, is on a trajectory to hit New Orleans on the seventh anniversary of Katrina, putting gulf oil at risk. Oil companies in the area are already evacuating their crews. Jeff Master of Weather Underground reports Isaac is very similar in size to Hurricane Ike and on the same path. Ike hit Galveston and Houston in 2008. It was a $37 billion storm, the second costliest in history and only a Category 2 storm when it hit. The winds and the immense size of the storm caused massive damage.

    Katrina, the deadliest and costliest hurricane in U.S. history, hit Aug. 29, 2005, after President George W. Bush urged Israel to withdraw from Gaza. Israeli rabbis and U.S. senators have made note of the historical links between calamitous U.S. storms and U.S. pressures on Israel to divide the land. In his book, Koenig points out that nine of the 10 costliest insurance events in U.S. history followed dramatic calls by U.S. officials for Israel to make land concessions in bids for peace with its neighbors. He points out with startling detail how six of the seven costliest hurricanes in U.S. history followed such events. He points out how three of the four largest tornado outbreaks in U.S. history also followed such developments.

    Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, even terrorist attacks have hit America often within 24 hours of calls by U.S. officials for Israel to withdraw from historically Jewish land.

    What does this have to do with Bible prophecy?

    It goes back to Genesis and God’s pledge to bless those who bless the children of Israel and curse those who curse them. It’s a prophecy that many Christians and Jews believe is behind the fall of all the world’s empires of the past. That is a prophecy that has seen every empire of the world come and go – yet Israel remains.

    But, with regard to Isaac, there’s more to consider than the GOP platform decision. Koenig also sees significance in three other recent policy decisions by Obama’s White House.

    As WND reported three days ago, Obama asked Palestinian leaders to delay any moves toward statehood until the presidential election is over, according to a senior Palestinian Authority official. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the official told WND, the request was passed to PA President Mahmoud Abbas’ office by the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem

    It’s not the first time Obama has asked the PA to wait until after the election to make its move toward statehood, suggesting he would be freer to support the initiative if he is re-elected.

    In addition, the Obama administration proclaimed last week that it still sees diplomacy as the solution to Iran’s bid for nuclear weapons. Israel has been debating a pre-emptive attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities in the wake of repeated threats by Iranian political and religious figures to annihilate the Jewish state.

    Lastly, the Obama campaign has refused to distance itself from a radical female rabbi’s support for his re-election bid. Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb is one of 613 rabbis pledging support for Obama under the name “Rabbis for Obama.” But she has called for a boycott against Israeli products, has dined with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and was the first American rabbi to visit Tehran.

    Meanwhile, Gulf of Mexico operators on Sunday were bracing for the first hurricane in 2012 to affect the U.S. oil patch, which produces 23 percent of the U.S. oil output and 7 percent of the its natural gas.

    Isaac, they say, could be the biggest test to U.S. energy infrastructure since 2008, when Hurricanes Gustav and Ike disrupted offshore oil output for months as well as damaged onshore natural gas processing plants and pipelines. Isaac could also impact the U.S. refinery row along the Gulf Coast, which stretches from Mississippi to south Texas and accounts from more than 40 percent of U.S. fuel output.
    Get Bill Koenig’s “Eye to Eye: Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel.”
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:40 AM GMT
    This is EXACTLY why I detest pre-trib theology.

    You get morons like this spewing bullshit.
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    yup. Everything is about Israel.

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    Aug 27, 2012 12:56 AM GMT
    Upper_Cdn saidyup. Everything is about Israel.

    Whatever happened to America First?

    Oh, wait, the dispensationalists control the conversation.

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    Aug 27, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    "That question is being raised by Bible prophecy expert William Koenig"


    Hmmm... I'd love to see him go up against a real theologian. Maybe someone from a real university and peer-reviewed publications?

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    Aug 27, 2012 1:09 AM GMT
    Hank Hanegraaff is the guy to debate on end times prophecy. NOBODY can touch him...he'll clean the clock out of ANY pre-tribber.
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    Aug 27, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
    libertpaulian saidHank Hanegraaff is the guy to debate on end times prophecy. NOBODY can touch him...he'll clean the clock out of ANY pre-tribber.

    Best not buy into any of these rediculous theories about some imaginary reaction from some god up in the sky reigning down hellacious storms or other natural desasters on we humans because we didn't do his bidding.

    Who decided what gods will is anyhow ?

    This is today not thousands of years ago when their black book was written, so who or what sets the standard for what is or isn't GOD'S WILL TODAY?.

    I guess Koenig got a notice from this GOD THAT HE'D BEEN ELECTED AS GOD'S DECIDER ON EARTH. He and GOD only knows how many more LOL

    You see how rediculous this GOD business gets ?

    Mix it with Politics and wars are started over this shit.

    If you ask me, this tendency of the republican politicians to cave to these religious fanatics for votes has already done our country a great deal of damage. Far too many duped politicians believe this bullshit and actually make foreign policy decisions based on such fairy tails. They're already doing enough damage here at home on civil issues, GOD SAVE US FROM THESE IDIOTS. LOL
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    Aug 27, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
    Based on this theory, when does a hurricane strike Iran? Seems like they would deserve one every day for their own statements and actions against Israel. How come only the US gets punished under this arrangement?
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    Aug 27, 2012 3:10 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidBased on this theory, when does a hurricane strike Iran? Seems like they would deserve one every day for their own statements and actions against Israel. How come only the US gets punished under this arrangement?

    LOL !!! We'll have to ask these Imaginary god's of the christians and the Islamists why they punish one side with Hurricanes and leave out the other. Who know's maybe they've made some kind of peace between them and part of the truse is to just play with the SOB'S down here for fun and games because we're so godamned gullable. LOL

    Take a read of some of the comments from this fundi site WND, Its good to know how the 'enemy' thinks, LOL What's that saying, keep a distance between you and your friends, but keep your enemies close ? Something like that !!!


    You also believe the earth is flat? You people who think God intervenes in human affairs say so with no real evidence. I do not believe in a God who interferes in human activities...if he did he would be a demon and not a loving God....


    God is God and he will do as he pleases! Ever heard of Noah's Ark - probably not. God sent his only son to die on the gross for your and my sins - can't get more loving than that; but beware, God will not be mocked! Who are you to question God?

    Then you, ealexanderscianna, do not know Almighty God.

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    If one thinks about it Israel has already been to graceful of giving up its land to these people. The Lord is not happy about that and for them to give up more is not nor should be even a subject. We must stand with our friend Israel. Remember those who curse my people I will curse and those who bless my people I will bless. We have aways stood by Israel and our Nation has been blessed beyond any nation in the world ever that has ever existed. No country in the world has prospered as the USA since it beginning. Islam would like to see big satin (USA) and little satin (Israel) destroyed why is this.... Because we have always stood by our friend Israel and the day we don't well look at history.
    So if the Republicans do not support our Israel well I will look at a Third Party


    Wake up Christians: drought, fires, the hurricane etc. The dems have adopted a platform of perversion and baby killing. The republicans do not do enough to get in the way of the perverted policies of the democrats. A while back as the ELCA (the liberal version of Lutherenism) was voting on gays in the pulpit and gay marriage. A tornado/high winds came through and snapped the cross from the church that they were voting in. Their congregations have been tanking ever since. The ELCA also funds abortions in their insurance plan. We better hit our knees and pray and encourage, no matter how distasteful it may be for some of you, vote forRomney and Ryan ridding us of the liar and domestic terrorist posing as a leader of the free world. See 2016 and take fence sitters and moderates. If you care about this country, your family, your faith vote for the only way out right now, Romney and Ryan.


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    Aug 27, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
    See the thread "Scientists say America is too dumb for democracy to thrive" on this board... QED
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    Aug 27, 2012 4:00 PM GMT

    Below are some more comment from the typical Christian Fundi 'believers', these are effectively the partners of gays who vote republican.

    These are the poeple who are pushing the republican party so far to the right to the detriment of our civil rights. We should expose this superstitious stupidy at every opportunity.


    One thing we have never learned as human beings....."when God is not happy, NOBODY is happy! He knows the hypocracy of both sides of the isle, and He will recompence for the 70 million aborted babies and the addition of 4000 each day, and Obama and Hillary giving no foreign aid to nations unless they do the same....forcing this on other nations who did not do such! And THEN there is the subject of Israel...........


    Stories (and polls) like this prove how stupid and superstitious christians are.


    if you don't believe in God,get off of this FORUM....God has already won....In JESUS' name,AMEN.....


    I didn't know that was a qualifier to be able to post here.


    LOL, look how tolerant christians are. You seriously think god tries to communicate with you via weather patterns?


    History shows He did.

    Joe Finney

    God is in control. Weather is weather but He can do whatever He wants to intervene or get ones attention. He is merciful by just using a hurricane on how sinful and rebellious we are as a Nation.

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    Do you people here that are making these comments about God judging America really believe what you are saying? That these events are natural and that it storm season, and we need the rain, yada yada yada. You had best better read the Scriptures, for it says those who bless Israel, God will bless and those who curse Israel, God will curse. Why is that so hard to understand? The reason our country is in the shape it is today, is that God has been pushed out of everything that we do. I find it hypocritical that you cannot pray in school but yet when any official in the government is sworn in the last words they say is "so help me God." In other words, they invoked the name of God to help them in their official duties, but yet the name of God cannot be invoked in any public place, prayer, or anywhere our children are being taught. Do you people not see the hypocrisy in this? Okay, let's take a look at Obama. Last year, he did not even proclaim the national Day of prayer. However, he proclaimed Rhmadan, which is the beginning of the Muslim holy days. And there are pictures of Pres. Obama and many people in the White House, with their prayer rugs on the floor and them kneeling down. Now you tell me and justify it, why he is trying to separate Israel and give Palestine a state of their own with Israel's land that God promised them from the beginning of time. The land they are talking about is Israel. It has always been Israel's, and it will always be Israel's. And anyone who tries to separate that land or goes against Israel WILL be judged by God. This land is under judgment, because we have let homosexuals, racists, radicals, and everything else to infiltrate our government and the way Americans must do things. Obama is now making his own laws, going around Congress, usurping the Constitution, and doing whatever he wants to get what he wants. He is king and dictator of the United States of America. So you damn well better vote his *** out in November, or you are going to see things in America you never thought possible, and it's not going to be good, nor fun

    Joe Finney

    Those who stand with Israel will prosper. The Bible says there will be earthquakes in divers places. So yes God can use everything at His disposal to wake or get people's attention.


    Well, indeed He IS GOD after all! And he does not like ugly! Sin is ugly in anyone's heart. Best repent and get rid of it....."it's no nice to try and play with Father God and His Son Jesus Christ.

    Martha Benton

    He evidently only communicates with people that have brains. That is why you and JoeMyGod have not heard him. But the day will come when you will, but it will be too late then. You will have kept your ears closed for too long as it will show in your Book of Life when you stand before God.


    "Get thee behind me satan,for you cannot not prevail"...That's who's guiding your life whether you realize it or not.. I pray for you. I'm not being funny or arrogant,i'm being serious!!. God loves you..Don't deny Him or you will be forever separated from Him on judgment day. We're not crazy,we're saved!!! God said,"If you are not for Me,then you are against Me" Well, who is against God? satan is....Don't fall for satan's plan in destroying your life..icon_sad.gif

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    Well for you skeptics out there, I have been blessed with two NDEs and in one, I was able to see 113 years into the future. God can and does, change our future and I have seen these changes two times since Bush and Obama have been in office. Look closely at Hurricane Ike. We had a republican president with that nickname. God substituted Ike for a terrorist nuclear attack on the USA. I saw the nuclear explosion in my future view. I didn't see the hurricane. Don't doubt the greatness or love, our God has for all mankind.
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    As a Republican, I'm saddened that my party has to accommodate you and your ilk.

    Get out, and take your "visions" with you.

    While your at it, you might want to get yourself checked for schizophrenia. I believe the clinical term for what you're experiencing is "break-from-reality."

    There's medications that can fix that. (AT LEAST THIS COMMENTOR HAS SOME COMMON SENSE)

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    So if God, from His unconditional Love, made substitutions as you saw them, why couldn't/wouldn't He make substitutions as they relate to the end time prophesies from The Bible?

    Deb Daily

    Because He has so much mercy...even for our politicians. He's waiting for them to wake up too. Unfortunately, they may take us all down to the edge of this abyss, but we'll have our Kingdom soon thereafter, with or without them.

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    Aug 29, 2012 3:30 PM GMT
    Quotes from Christian Fundi Learders found on 'Think Progress'

    (These are effectively the voting partners of Gay Republicans)

    "Netanyahu appeared onstage with Pastor John Hagee in Jerusalem.” Hagee is a radical American cleric who opposes the two-state solution and supports unlimited Israeli settlement expansion with millions of American dollars. “If America puts pressure on Israel to divide Jerusalem we are following the blueprint of the Prince of Darkness,” Hagee has said. “Amos 3:2 states that any nation that divides the Land of Israel will come under the severe judgment of God.”

    Hagee is the head of Christians United For Israel which has untited under its wings and represents some tens of Million Christian Fundi Voters in the US,

    "Back in 2006, Hagee declared that “Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.” Hagee said that “New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God,” because “there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came.”

    ThinkProgress asked Rev. Hagee’s spokesperson, Kara Silverman, whether Gustav’s possible impact on the Republican National Convention might be seen as punishment against Republicans for their not having done enough to combat the “homosexual agenda,” or whether this storm could be attributed to some other target of divine wrath.

    Ms. Silverman said Hagee had “no comment.”

    Hagee, whose endorsement Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was forced to reject after audio surfaced of him saying that Hitler was fulfilling God’s will, has a long history with President Bush. As Sarah Posner has reported, when he was first running for president, Bush “enlisted Hagee to recruit other pastors to sign on to the Bush campaign effort.”

    In fact, Hagee became such an enthusiastic Bush booster that he endorsed him in 2000 by writing a book titled God’s Candidate for America. According to Posner, Hagee was “unequivocal” in the book “that Jesus would vote for Bush“:

    Despite accusing Bush Sr. of collaboration with the Antichrist, Hagee delivered for George W. Bush in his 2000 book, God’s Candidate for America. In that book, Hagee was unequivocal that Jesus would vote for Bush. “If you are concerned about the sort of America your children and grandchildren will grow up within,” Hagee wrote, “then you need to cast your vote for George W. Bush and the Republican Party.”

    It appears that, according to McClellan, Hagee’s efforts paid off and Bush rewarded him by giving him “sway” in the White House.

    Digg It!
    Hagee’s comments linking Hitler and the Catholic Church are patently offensive. His support for a war with Iran and his comparison of those who support a two-state solution in Israel to Nazis make a mockery of Christian calls for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East. And then there’s the mind-boggling suggestion that God sent Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans for its residents’ supposed moral indiscretions.
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    Aug 29, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
    by Joe Kovacs
    Eerie Bible coincidence for Hurricane Isaac?

    Bizarre timing has some asking: 'What are the odds?'
    Published: 3 hours ago

    “A hurricane hitting a celebration of decadence … twice in seven years. What are the odds?” asks Robin Cox, a lifelong Gulf Coast resident.

    “Does it seem God has it in for New Orleans?” adds Mary Starkey. “Just contemplating why this has happened twice in seven years at exact same time of year.”

    Dating back to 1972, Southern Decadence bills itself today as “one of the largest annual celebrations and festivals in New Orleans, it has become known as the ‘Gay Mardi Gras.’”

    The timing of Isaac in relation to Katrina has caught the attention of some Christian pastors, including John McTernan of the Defend and Proclaim the Faith website:

    “Katrina was the greatest natural disaster ever to hit America. Now seven years later, to the day, another hurricane is heading towards this city. The fact the events are seven years apart is very significant as this number is biblically important. It is the number of completion: God created the universe in seven days. The church, city and nation have not repented and the homosexual agenda is far worse than it was in 2005.

    “New Orleans is still hosting Southern Decadence with open homosexuality manifesting in the streets of the city. It could be that God is putting an end to this city and its wickedness. The timing of Hurricane Isaac with Southern Decadence is a sign that God’s patience with America’s sin is coming to an end. … Let’s all watch this very closely, because if New Orleans is destroyed, it is a sure sign that the final judgment for the national sin of America has arrived.”
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    Aug 31, 2012 8:00 AM GMT

    From WND, Savage doesn't think the Repubs are going far enough to the right. LOL

    Savage: Republican 'eunuchs' avoiding big issues

    Transcripts show not one speaker has mentioned tea party

    After a parade of speakers over two nights, talk radio host Michael Savage is asking why the Republican National Convention’s podium appears to be devoid of true conservatives.

    “Not one carefully selected eunuch-speaker has dared to tackle the big problems destroying America,” Savage said.

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    Among the virtually avoided issued, he said, are “illegal aliens eating away at the nation’s schools, hospitals and unity”; “welfare and food-stamp leeches”; Afghan soldiers “shooting our boys in the back”; the “corrupt, incompetent America-hating occupant of the White House”; “billions in fraudulent loans to his cronies”; the corrupt senators and congresswomen whose spouses are feasting on our lost taxpayer billions”; and the “executive orders that have stolen our freedoms.”

    “All of this has been unmentioned by the eunuchs from K Street,” Savage said.
    He noted “not a whisper has been permitted from a true American hero, Congressman Allen West.”

    Savage also didn’t think Ann Romney’s portrayal of her husband Tuesday night did much for the Republican nominee’s stature in the world.

    Gov. Mitt Romney’s wife, he said, told “the Islamist killers, the Russian gangsters and China’s murderers that her husband, who should lead the free world, ironed his own shirt that very morning and does his own laundry.”

    Meanwhile, the popular website Buzzfeed noticed the RNC seems to have forgotten about the tea party movement that reignited the party’s base and swept Republicans to power in the House in 2010.

    The website examined the transcripts of 38 speakers during the convention’s prime time hours the first two nights and found that not one speaker mentioned the tea party movement by name.

    Buzzfeed called it “a sign both of Romney’s own distance from the movement and that polls have suggested that voters view the movement negatively.”

    The Romney campaign approves all of the remarks ahead of time and oversees the choice of speakers, the website noted.

    “It’s a striking absence for a movement that has grown from a series of protests to a legitimate faction of the Republican Party, with many representatives in Congress and in state governments,” Buzzfeed said.

    Texas Republican Senate candidate Ted Cruz, who by most accounts owes his nomination to the tea party movement, only made an allusion to it as a “great awakening.”

    He called it a “response to career politicians in both parties who’ve gotten us into this mess.”

    “This national movement is fueled by what unites us: a love of liberty, a belief in the unlimited potential of free men and women,” Cruz said.

    Some of the fundi fanatic comments

    That is uncalled for. Rep. Allen West is incredible, a hero, conservative and spot on. The plate was full - especially with one day being cut off.
    I do disagree with Savage: What does he call: Cruz, Rubio, Haley, Love, et al?
    The majority of the MAJOR speakers were Tea Party AND the platform for the GOP was changed to include the majority of the Tea Party platform.
    INCREDIBLE progress.
    We do not need to behave as spoiled ill-mannered children as the left does.


    It doesn't matter what they say at the convention, every one watching .................ALRTHE SCORE !!!!
    I don't need to hear AGAIN about the ILLEGAL ALIEN situation all over again at the CONVENTION ............. I KNOW THE SCORE !!!
    They will NEVER get through to the MENTALLY ill LIBERAL DEMONCRAT PARTY CULT MEMBERS and their COMRADES !!!! They have NO common sense and they systematically just flat out LIE when they DO NOT GET THEIR WAY !!!!
    We just have to KICK THEIR BUTTS at the polls in NOVEMBER & the people who are REALLY listening to the Convention have been ready to do just that FOR YEARS !!!!!
    America is not in this much DEVASTATING TROUBLE because of Republicans, it is the LIBERAL COMMUNIST DEMONCRAT PARTY CULT that had NO OPPOSITION In congress for OVER 8 YEARS !!! They did ONLY as they wanted & TOTALLY IGNORED any input from Republicans BECAUSE THEY COULD !!
    So How The Hell Can The Republicans Be Responsible when they had NO VOICE ???????????????? LOOK...