An insulting foreigner

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    Aug 30, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
    Today we stopped into a local gay bar to drop off some flyers & palmcards for our SMART Ride fundraiser. We remained to have a drink, to give them a little business in return for the favor they were doing us.

    The guy next to me at the bar asked if I had an iPhone charger for his dead cell. Well I did, in my iPad shoulder bag. Actually I had an iPad charger, too, which works a little faster, and the bartender plugged it in for him.

    We got to talking, and he was a Belgian who spends several months here at a vacation home with his gay partner. They're into the art scene, and visit New York, Chicago, and the West Coast, too, I assume fairly wealthy.

    He then proceeded to tell me how awful American art is, basically non-existent, compared to Europe. And how awful we speak English, a real challenge for him, because we don't speak proper English like the British. Plus he added a whole litany of our other US shortcomings.

    I tried to remain civil & friendly to a visitor, but I was losing my patience, and we actually left a little quicker than I wanted, just to get away from him. His phone was more than half charged by then, for which he hardly thanked me, much less bought me a drink or something, which I would have done for that kindness to me in a similar circumstance.

    Do you guys ever encounter rude & insulting foreigners visiting the US? Maybe we see more of them because we're in South Florida.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:01 PM GMT
    He probably buys "art"? Freak.

    And I'd say about half the people I come across were born outside the U.S.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
    SweetBoy1223 saidHe probably buys "art"? Freak.

    And I'd say about half the people I come across were born outside the U.S.

    I said he lives outside the US. You meet that many people from overseas in Boston?
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
    Maybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    LOL I can tell you for sure that the British don't speak English any better than Americans do (or any of their other former colonies for that matter). They have plenty of their own nuances and oddities. Not to mention, English in the UK has changed drastically more over the centuries than English in the US has. We have preserved a lot of things they've lost.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    McQueen saidMaybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.


    Betch.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
    McQueen saidMaybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.


    It's def not.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:18 PM GMT
    Out of curiosity, was your Belgian visitor a French speaker or Flemish/Dutch speaker? icon_wink.gif

    You should've offered to take him and his partner to IHOP for a waffle. Or perhaps even to Waffle House, haha.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
    McQueen saidMaybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.

    Perhaps it is. I can understand you might prefer China or Russia over the US. But what has your comment got to do with my topic about having insulting manners when visiting another country? Are you saying the US deserves to be insulted by visiting foreigners, for whom we've just done a favor?
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    It comes down to common courtesy. Obviously, the man you encountered had none. It scream "low-life" when one has no manners, especially as a visitor.

    I dont care how much u hate a country you're in, or whatever, but you don't insult the country you're visiting to one of it's citizens as they are helping you out (ie a phone charger)...that euro guy was a low-life, complete and utter euro-trash.

    I visited Greece last year and was shocked at the city of Athens and how dirty and covered in graffitti almost every building was. I was also caught off guard by the many wild dogs just roaming the city streets like rats.... I would literally walk around and have to step over half-dead dogs lying on the sidewalk or in the street.

    Did I say anything bad about Greece to a Greek while I was there? No. I told them hoe beautiful their country was and how I am enjoying my visit there. Even though I hated seeing dead dogs on the street, all the graffitti and how almost no building had good air-conditioning. It was so hot and stuffy in Athens.

    I was being polite of course.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
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    McQueen saidMaybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.
    Perhaps it is. I can understand you might prefer China or Russia over the US. But what has your comment got to do with my topic about having insulting manners when visiting another country, ANY country?
    Well I suppose I could say that you're right. He shouldn't have been in your country in the first place.
    In fact, your entire country should be quarantined and exterminated, so I don't think any foreigners should be in the country when that happens.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
    McQueen said
    Art_Deco said
    McQueen saidMaybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.
    Perhaps it is. I can understand you might prefer China or Russia over the US. But what has your comment got to do with my topic about having insulting manners when visiting another country, ANY country?
    Well I suppose I could say that you're right. He shouldn't have been in your country in the first place.
    In fact, your entire country should be quarantined and exterminated, so I don't think any foreigners should be in the country when that happens.

    I can understand how you would identify with an insulting foreigner. Are you really 23, or 13, pretending to be old enough for this site? Certainly not the behavior one would expect of someone of your claimed age.
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    McQueen said
    Art_Deco said
    McQueen saidMaybe it's because your country is legitimately the worst first-world country on the planet.
    Perhaps it is. I can understand you might prefer China or Russia over the US. But what has your comment got to do with my topic about having insulting manners when visiting another country, ANY country?
    Well I suppose I could say that you're right. He shouldn't have been in your country in the first place.
    In fact, your entire country should be quarantined and exterminated, so I don't think any foreigners should be in the country when that happens.


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    Aug 30, 2012 9:42 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI can understand how you would identify with an insulting foreigner. Are you really 23, or 13, pretending to be old enough for this site? Certainly not the behavior one would expect of someone of your claimed age.
    I'm sorry, but do you not recognize who I am?
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    It's Anduru she's up to her old ways
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    Aug 30, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
    McQueen said
    Art_Deco saidI can understand how you would identify with an insulting foreigner. Are you really 23, or 13, pretending to be old enough for this site? Certainly not the behavior one would expect of someone of your claimed age.
    I'm sorry, but do you not recognize who I am?

    That would require that I CARE who you are.
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    Aug 30, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
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    He is clearly delusional. You can spend years just studying American art.
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    Aug 30, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
    I woulda asked him if he's French. icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 31, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidWhat irritates me even more are all the foreigners who come to America to live cuz they're own country is not up to par in some way. Yet they perpetually criticize or insult the U.S. for whatever reason. My brother's girlfriend from Brazil is one of them.

    I sharply remind them that there was obviously a valid reason that their country was not satisfactory; hence - the reason why they left in the first place. I also suggest that if America isn't up to their standards that they should think about moving back to where they came from.


    And people easily forget that the United States is the No. 1 immigrant destination by a long shot. Something must be driving people here. Meanwhile, Russia is a distant No. 2!
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    Aug 31, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidWhat irritates me even more are all the foreigners who come to America to live cuz they're own country is not up to par in some way. Yet they perpetually criticize or insult the U.S. for whatever reason. My brother's girlfriend from Brazil is one of them.

    I sharply remind them that there was obviously a valid reason that their country was not satisfactory; hence - the reason why they left in the first place. I also suggest that if America isn't up to their standards that they should think about moving back to where they came from.


    They've already been assimilated. Isn't complaining the American Way of Life?
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    Aug 31, 2012 12:33 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI woulda asked him if he's French. icon_lol.gif

    No, he said he was Belgian. He just speaks French.
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    Aug 31, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI woulda asked him if he's French. icon_lol.gif

    No, he said he was Belgian. He just speaks French.


    Oh, they suck. Quebecois are the only Francophones in this world I like, lol. Dutch-speaking Belgians (Flemish) are far cooler and don't have a stick up their ass icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 31, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    SweetBoy1223 said24531962.jpg

    Did you find a new spiritual path, or a new medium/tool to insult people via yourself, with?
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    Aug 31, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    A famous Canadians take on the Americans

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    Aug 31, 2012 1:15 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidI woulda asked him if he's French. icon_lol.gif

    No, he said he was Belgian. He just speaks French.

    Oh, they suck. Quebecois are the only Francophones in this world I like, lol. Dutch-speaking Belgians (Flemish) are far cooler and don't have a stick up their ass icon_cool.gif

    He said he spoke mainly French, but also Dutch & German, and of course English (which wasn't very good, BTW). Then he noted how Americans only know how to speak English. I mentioned to him that I could speak some French & German (said to him in French & German) from my having lived there for years, and that many Americans also spoke Spanish.

    Still unwilling to concede that Americans could speak more than 1 language, he replied that 80% of Miami residents only spoke Spanish, and never learned English. I was getting more than a little tired of this, but not wanting to get into a loud bar argument in a place where the owner was doing us a favor for our fundraising, I signaled to my partner I was ready to leave.

    He didn't seem to be drunk, nor was he drinking much, so I concluded his obnoxiousness was a natural trait. And hopefully an isolated one, even though I rarely meet any Belgians. So I wouldn't want to be so prejudiced as in this Monty Python "competition" or in a John Cleese interview: