A VERY IMPORTANT VIDEO DISPELLING WAR PROPAGANDA, WHY ARE OUR U.S. MEDIA NOT INFORMNG AMERICANS OF THE FACTS

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    If the United States wastes another trillion on another war it will discredit itself completely. No one needs a war with Iran. There's a segment in Washington that's lying to the people, just like the Gulf of Tonkin, just like Iraq, pursuing god-knows-what objectives.
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    Aug 31, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    Aress saidIf the United States wastes another trillion on another war it will discredit itself completely. No one needs a war with Iran. There's a segment in Washington that's lying to the people, just like the Gulf of Tonkin, just like Iraq, pursuing god-knows-what objectives.



    I'm going to post a list of the Prominant and mostly Dual US/Israeli NEO CONS who were involved in the think tanks and from within our government pushed us toward war with IRAQ unnecessarily based on lies.

    MANY OF THESE SAME NEO CONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THE VERY SAME THING IN PUSHING FOR WAR WITH IRAN !!!

    YET OUR MEDIA IN HE U.S. DOES NOT EXPOSE THESE PEOPLE THEY ACTUALLY PROMOTE THEIR PROPAGANDA WITHOUT FORWARDING ALL THE FACTS THAT EXPOSE THESE PEOPLE AS WARMONGERS


    Here they are with some info about each one, the far right and especially LIL'AIPAC accuse me of Anti Semitism for exposing the facts, I rather think its our Patriotic duty to expose the truth to hold back the people who would take us into yet another war,

    Who got us into the Iraq war?



    A List of prominent Jewish Neocons and their role in getting the U.S. into Iraq and Homeland Security

    ***Everything shown below has been taken word for word from the respective website cited (primarily Wikipedia).







    Richard Perle



    “American political advisor and lobbyist who worked for the Reagan administration as an assistant Secretary of Defense and worked on the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee from 1987 to 2004. He was Chairman of the Board from 2001 to 2003 under the Bush Administration.”



    “He is a member of several conservative think-tanks, such as Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the Hudson Institute, and (as a resident fellow) the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research. He is also a Patron of the Henry Jackson Society. “



    “Perle has written extensively on a number of issues; his cited research interests including defense, national security, and the Middle East. Perle had long been an advocate of regime change in Iraq. He also linked Saddam to Osama Bin Laden just a few days after 9/11”



    “Perle chaired a study group that included Douglas Feith and David Wurmser that produced a strategy paper for the incoming Likud Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm””



    “In a New York Times article Perle was criticized for recommending that the Army purchase an armaments system from an Israeli company that a year earlier had paid him $50,000 in consulting fees.”



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle



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    Aug 31, 2012 7:11 PM GMT
    Paul Wolfowitz

    “As U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense during the Presidency of George W. Bush, he was “a major architect of President Bush’s Iraq policy and, within the Administration, its most passionate and compelling advocate” (Boyer 1)”



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
    Deputy Secretary of Defense

    From 2001 to 2005, during the George W. Bush administration, Wolfowitz served as U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense reporting to U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

    The September 11 attacks in 2001 was a turning point in administration policy, as Wolfowitz later explained: "9/11 really was a wake up call and that if we take proper advantage of this opportunity to prevent the future terrorist use of weapons of mass destruction that it will have been an extremely valuable wake up call," adding: "if we say our only problem was to respond to 9/11, and we wait until somebody hits us with nuclear weapons before we take that kind of threat seriously, we will have made a very big mistake."[33]

    In the first emergency meeting of the National Security Council on the day of the attacks, Rumsfeld asked, "Why shouldn’t we go against Iraq, not just al-Qaeda?" with Wolfowitz adding that Iraq was a "brittle, oppressive regime that might break easily—it was doable," and, according to John Kampfner, "from that moment on, he and Wolfowitz used every available opportunity to press the case."[34] The idea was initially rejected, at the behest of Secretary of State Colin Powell, but, according to Kampfner, "Undeterred Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz held secret meetings about opening up a second front—against Saddam. Powell was excluded." In such meetings they created a policy that would later be dubbed the Bush Doctrine, centering on "pre-emption" and the war on Iraq, which the PNAC had advocated in their earlier letters.[35]

    After the September 11 attacks, the U.S. invaded Afghanistan to fight Al-Qaeda, which orchestrated the attack .[35] The U.S. invasion of Afghanistan began on October 7, 2001. And, although victory was declared on March 6, 2002[citation needed], fighting continues as of August 28, 2012. On October 10, 2001, George Robertson, then Secretary-General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, went to the Pentagon to offer NATO troops, planes and ships to assist. Wolfowitz rebuffed the offer, saying: "We can do everything we need to." Wolfowitz later announced publicly, according to Kampfner, "that 'allies, coalitions and diplomacy' were of little immediate concern."





    Wolfowitz with New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark at the Pentagon, March 26, 2002.
    Ten months later, on January 15, 2003, with hostilities still continuing, Wolfowitz made a fifteen-hour visit to the Afghan capital, Kabul, and met with the new president Hamid Karzai. Wolfowitz stated, "We’re clearly moving into a different phase, where our priority in Afghanistan is increasingly going to be stability and reconstruction. There’s no way to go too fast. Faster is better." Despite the promises, according to Hersh, "little effort to provide the military and economic resources" necessary for reconstruction was made.[35] This criticism would also re-occur after the U.S. invasion of Iraq later that year.[35]

    On April 16, 2002 the National Solidarity Rally for Israel was called in Washington to promote US support and collaboration with Israel. Wolfowitz was the sole representative of the Bush administration to attend, speaking alongside Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. As reported by the BBC, Wolfowitz told the crowd that US President George W. Bush "wants you to know that he stands in solidarity with you".[36] Sharon Samber and Matthew E. Berger reported for Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA) that Wolfowitz continued by saying that "Innocent Palestinians are suffering and dying as well. It is critical that we recognize and acknowledge that fact," before being booed and drowned out by chants of "No more Arafat."[37]

    Following the declaration of victory in Afghanistan the Bush administration had started to plan for the next stage of the War on Terror. According to John Kampfner, "Emboldened by their experience in Afghanistan, they saw the opportunity to root out hostile regimes in the Middle East and to implant very American interpretations of democracy and free markets, from Iraq to Iran and Saudi Arabia. Wolfowitz epitomised this view." Wolfowitz "saw a liberated Iraq as both paradigm and linchpin for future interventions." The 2003 invasion of Iraq began on March 19.[35]

    Prior to the invasion, Wolfowitz actively championed it, as he later stated: "For reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason"[38][39]

    The job of finding WMD and providing justification for the attack would fall to the intelligence services, but, according to Kampfner, "Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz believed that, while the established security services had a role, they were too bureaucratic and too traditional in their thinking." As a result "they set up what came to be known as the 'cabal', a cell of eight or nine analysts in a new Office of Special Plans (OSP) based in the U.S. Defense Department." According to an unnamed Pentagon source quoted by Hersh, the OSP "was created in order to find evidence of what Wolfowitz and his boss, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, believed to be true—that Saddam Hussein had close ties to Al Qaeda, and that Iraq had an enormous arsenal of chemical, biological, and possibly even nuclear weapons that threatened the region and, potentially, the United States."[35]

    Within months of being set up, the OSP "rivaled both the CIA and the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency, the DIA, as President Bush’s main source of intelligence regarding Iraq’s possible possession of weapons of mass destruction and connection with Al Qaeda." Hersh explains that the OSP "relied on data gathered by other intelligence agencies and also on information provided by the Iraqi National Congress, or I.N.C., the exile group headed by Ahmad Chalabi." According to Kampfner, the CIA had ended its funding of the I.N.C. "in the mid-1990s when doubts were cast about Chalabi’s reliability." Nevertheless "as the administration geared up for conflict with Saddam, Chalabi was welcomed in the inner sanctum of the Pentagon" under the auspices of the OSP, and "Wolfowitz did not see fit to challenge any of Chalabi’s information." The actions of the OSP have led to accusation of the Bush administration "fixing intelligence to support policy" with the aim of influencing Congress in its use of the War Powers Act.[35]

    Kampfner outlined Wolfowitz’s strategy for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which "envisaged the use of air support and the occupation of southern Iraq with ground troops, to install a new government run by Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress." Wolfowitz believed that the operation would require minimal troop deployment, Hersh explains, because "any show of force would immediately trigger a revolt against Saddam within Iraq, and that it would quickly expand."[35] The financial expenditure would be kept low, Kampfner observes, if "under the plan American troops would seize the oil fields around Basra, in the South, and sell the oil to finance the opposition."

    On March 27, 2003, Wolfowitz told the House Appropriations Committee[40] that oil revenue earned by Iraq alone would pay for Iraq's reconstruction after the Iraq war; he testified his "rough recollection" was[40]: "The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but ... We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."[41] By October of that year, "Law
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    Aug 31, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
    It seemed that we have a very robust anti-war movement here in the USA during the prior administration. Then, mysteriously, it vanished, even as President Obama increased the number of troops in Afghanistan to 3 times the levels they were under his predecessor.

    Now, all those who were speaking out against the war in Afghanistan are keeping their mouths shut. Is it because the President is a Democrat?
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    Aug 31, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
    During the 2008 election - President Obama promised to end the war in Iraq and to focus on finishing the job in Afghanistan.
    He never promised to pull the troops out of Afghanistan - he promised to put in more.
    And he's kept his promises.

    President Obama has always shown respect for the dedication and sacrifices of our troops.

    Mitt Romney on the other hand - did not thank the troops during his speech last night.
    Romney didn't offer one word of thanks or respect to the troops who are currently serving in harm's way.

    Mitt Romney is not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
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    Aug 31, 2012 11:23 PM GMT
    RickRick91 saidDuring the 2008 election - President Obama promised to end the war in Iraq and to focus on finishing the job in Afghanistan.
    He never promised to pull the troops out of Afghanistan - he promised to put in more.
    And he's kept his promises.

    President Obama has always shown respect for the dedication and sacrifices of our troops.

    Mitt Romney on the other hand - did not thank the troops during his speech last night.
    Romney didn't offer one word of thanks or respect to the troops who are currently serving in harm's way.

    Mitt Romney is not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief.




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    I totally agree, While I think Obama has fallen in with the Military coplex, I don't believe he'd put us in the jeapardy that Romney will with his Bush Leftover advisors straight out of the NEO CON groups who put us in war with Iraq.

    Listening to Romney he must be going along with the NEO CON Senor and Israeli firster who is also promoting taking on Russia, China and all of the Middle East.

    Its time We Dems start calling it just how it is and not backing down or apologizing for pointing out Warmongers from Israel or Dual US/Israeli Citizens within our government. They have no shame in sending our sons totheir deaths, but God Damn it I don't see them lining up to volunteer for the front lines in their wars. DO YOU ?

    Its our Patriotic duty to expose these people. How long do you think our citizenry would put up with Dual Nationals from France, the UK, Poland, Russia or china or any other country whose actions lead us to wars that benefit their country's ? THEY WOULDN"T AND NEITHER SHOULD WE FROM ISRAEL OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY.


    Here's and even better video which lists of US/ISRAELI NEO CON'S who took us to war with lies and are even now influencing toward another war, this one with IRAN.

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    SOME SAY THEY'RE TIRED OF THIS BEING POINTED OUT, WELL BY GOD THOSE WHO COMPLAIN NEVER SEEM TO TIRE OF THE NEO CONS PUTTING OUT THEIR LIEING PROPAGANDA THATS COSTED THE US TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. FUCK THEM !!! THE FACTS NEED TO BE EXPOSED.
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    Sep 01, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    What is our mission in Afghanistan and why hasn't the president managed to finish the job? 4 years was enough to win WWII and Afghanistan is a far weaker foe than Germany and Japan.
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    Sep 01, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
    realifedad I am not here to start an argument with you since I know it is pointless. Yet I would still say that your statements and claims are antisemitic! And using the same source (Wikipedia) here's some excerpts.

    "Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage" .
    William Brustein defines political antisemitism as hostility toward Jews based on the belief that Jews seek national and/or world power." Yisrael Gutman characterizes political antisemitism as tending to "lay responsibility on the Jews for defeats and political economic crises" while seeking to "exploit opposition and resistance to Jewish influence as elements in political party platforms."

    And now you can go back spreading hate propaganda as you did before many times. I think there is room for discussion and debate on any matter but the attempt to doubt the loyalty of American Jews to the United States is simply put hateful and antisemitic.
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    gooddude1583 saidrealifedad I am not here to start an argument with you since I know it is pointless. Yet I would still say that your statements and claims are antisemitic! And using the same source (Wikipedia) here's some excerpts.

    "Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage" .
    William Brustein defines political antisemitism as hostility toward Jews based on the belief that Jews seek national and/or world power." Yisrael Gutman characterizes political antisemitism as tending to "lay responsibility on the Jews for defeats and political economic crises" while seeking to "exploit opposition and resistance to Jewish influence as elements in political party platforms."

    And now you can go back spreading hate propaganda as you did before many times. I think there is room for discussion and debate on any matter but the attempt to doubt the loyalty of American Jews to the United States is simply put hateful and antisemitic.



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    WHAT A BUNCH OF ONE SIDED BULLSHIT !!!

    Do tell us where above in anything that I've ever posted did I ever infer in any way shape or form this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage" .


    Further to the latter part of your post or quote above, its very plane that NO ONE CAN OR SHOULD MAKE ANY STATEMENT OF FACT RE: ANY JEWISH PERSON BECAUSE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEIR EFFORT TO PUSH FOR WAR IT IS AN ANTI SEMITIC ACTION

    Now, if you disagree, PLEASE DO TELL US WHO OTHER THAN THE ONES I EXPOSE ABOVE WERE PUSHING US TOWARD WAR AND STILL ARE ?? WHAT THE HELL DOES THEIR BEING JEWISH HAVE TO DO WITH IT ? IF THEY AS ISRAELI'S PUT ISRAELI INTERESTS BEFORE US INTERESTS, THEN ITS OUR DUTY TO EXPOSE IT AND TO STOP IT IF POSSIBLE, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ETHNICITY ?


    WHO WERE THEY WHO PUSHED FOR WAR IF NOT THOSE THAT I LISTED ?

    BY GOD DON'T TELL ME THAT BECAUSE ITS A JEW DOING THE WAR MONGERING THAT I CANNOT SPEAK UP ABOUT IT. BECAUSE ITS OUR DUTY NO MATTER WHO IT IS, OR WHAT GROUP IT IS AND FURTHER, THERE IS NO GROUP OR SECT, OR ETHNIC GROUP ABOVE CRITICISM.

    AS "VOLTAIRE" WROTE "TO LEARN WH RULES OVER YOU, SIMPLY FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE" YOU NOR YOUR CHARGES NOR ANYONE ELSES SHOULD STOP ANY OF US FROM SPEAKING UP, THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM IN OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CAVING TO THE LOBBY OVER SUCH FEARS

    SOME OF YOU ZIONIST AND NEO CON ISRAELI/US DUAL NATIONALS HAVE SET UP A VERY HANDI SMALL MINDED CATCH 22 WHERE ANY AND ALL CRITICISM OF ANYONE WHO MAY BE DOING WRONG AND MAY BE JEWISH IS CHARGED WITH ANTI THIS OR ANTI THAT, OR SEEKING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, TO SHUT DOWN ALL CRITICISM.


    MANY OF US IN THE US ARE WAKING UP AND WILL NOT BE SUBMISSIVE TO SUCH STUPID AND SHORT SIGHTED ACCUSATIONS TO SHUT DOWN OUR EXPOSING OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INFLUENCING, LIEING AND SKEEMING US INTO WARS, THESE SAME GROUPS ARE EVEN NOW DOING IT AGAIN.



    CALL ME AND ANY OF US WHO EXPOSE THIS WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT TO, BUT IT HAPPENS TO BE OUR RIGHT AND OUR DUTY AND IF THE PERSON DOING THE WARMONGERING HAPPENS TO BE A JEW SO THE FUCK WHAT !!!! IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR IT !!!!

    IF YOU DON"T LIKE THE CHARGES, WORK WITH US TO EXPOSE THOSE GUILTY PARTY'S.


    PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG ON JUST ONE PERSON ABOVE AS NOT GUILTY OF PUSHING FOR WAR ? JUST ONE !!!!



    I DARE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO PROVE THAT THOSE PEOPLE I LIST ARE NOT GUILTY OF PUSHING US TO WAR WITH IRAQ AND MANY ARE NOW DOING THE VERY SAME THING IN PUSHING US TO WAR WITH IRAN, SO WHAT IF SOME ARE JEWISH, ?? THAT MAKES THEM NO LESS GUILTY RIGHT ??
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    Sep 01, 2012 2:22 PM GMT
    Here's another good video on ISRAELI /U.S. Lies and Propaganda forwarded to promote War with Iran.






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