UPDATED: Two New Polls Show NO Post-Convention Bounce For Romney

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    Sep 02, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/01/two_polls_show_no_bounce_for_romney.html

    Post convention polls show that Mitt Romney has failed to get a bounce from his convention.

    Which comes as no surprise considering what a mess the convention was and what a godawful candidate Romney is.

    UPDATE - NEW POLL
    Gallup continues to show that Romney got no bounce - and actually LOST a point post-convention!

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/157262/romney-gets-no-bounce-last-week-gop-convention.aspx?utm_source=add_this&utm_medium=addthis.com&utm_campaign=sharing#.UEZI9hsKABo.twitter
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    Sep 02, 2012 2:42 AM GMT
    I think this lack of any appreciable 'bump' is telling and I liked this comment from the article:>>>>> But all the right wingers were certain that Mitt's somnolent speech, Ryan's big bag of lying, Christie's self-promotion, Ann's "humanizing" words, parading every person of colour in the Republican party up across the stage and, especially, Eastwood's performance art piece would create a huge bounce for Romney.

    Let's see where things stand after Charlotte. But Romney's people can't be very happy that their big chance to make an impression seems to have fallen completely flat.



    I expect Obama to get at least a 3 to 5% bump, I'll be surprised if its more because people are really turned off this year.

    It appears to me to that Romney / Ryan really believe that their lying and disinformation will take them over the top, but people are starting to see through those lies and I believe we'll see a gradual backfiring that they won't be able to overcome.

    GO OBAMA !!!!
  • Webster666

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    Sep 02, 2012 5:16 AM GMT
    Ryan was supposed to be Mr. Conservative Wonderboy, jumping in there to give Republicans a reason to go to the polls. But, his speech was all blatant lies, and everybody knew it.

    Clint Eastwood's rambling, babbling, tasteless, mostly incoherent, performance was the most memorable portion of the convention.

    Anybody remember anything that Romney said ? I don't either.

    If anything, Americans are now LESS likely to vote for Romney and Ryan.


    OBAMA got a bump from the Republican convention !
    LOL.
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    Sep 02, 2012 5:59 AM GMT
    Yup, well done Clint. Every which way but lucid.
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    Sep 02, 2012 6:17 AM GMT
    The RCP average shows Obama's lead shrinking, but that's typical after the rival party's convention. He still leads by half a percentage point.

    Considering the DNC is in a few days, that should change quickly.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 02, 2012 7:06 AM GMT
    Clint Eastwood's speech summed up the Republican Party: a rich, senile old dude ranting at an imaginary Obama.
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    Sep 02, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.
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    Sep 02, 2012 1:59 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.


    Except that you appear to be cherry picking the Rasmussen poll, which historically is the most inaccurate and Republican-biased of all the major pollsters. At what should be a high point in the Republican campaign, it ain't a great result. In any case, let's see what the end of this week brings, shall we?
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    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.


    Except that you appear to be cherry picking the Rasmussen poll, which historically is the most inaccurate and Republican-biased of all the major pollsters. At what should be a high point in the Republican campaign, it ain't a great result. In any case, let's see what the end of this week brings, shall we?

    Rass isn't THAT bad. It's Republican biased, of course, but it's not THAT terrible.

    I'm more of a Gallup and PPP man myself.
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    Sep 02, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidYup, well done Clint. Every which way but lucid.

    What a brilliant play on words! Is it your original? The highest compliment I can pay is that I'm gonna steal something and use it myself. icon_biggrin.gif
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    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.

    The Rasmussen poll is of likely voters (LV) while the Gallup is still of registered voters (RV). The general consensus among polling organizations, including Gallup, is that an LV poll is ultimately more accurate and will favor the GOP by 5-6 %. Gallup will switch over to LV closer to the election. There are differences in opinion among polling organizations about the LV methodologies and at what point LV polls are more meaningful. Some may question the accuracy of a Rasmussen LV poll, but there is consensus among pros that the RV polls favor Democrats, and that must be taken into account.
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    Sep 02, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
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    Ex_Mil8 saidYup, well done Clint. Every which way but lucid.

    What a brilliant play on words! Is it your original? The highest compliment I can pay is that I'm gonna steal something and use it myself. icon_biggrin.gif


    No, I am afraid I cannot claim the credit. It has been bouncing around the internet for a few days, but I thought it was very good.
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    Sep 02, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.


    Except that you appear to be cherry picking the Rasmussen poll, which historically is the most inaccurate and Republican-biased of all the major pollsters. At what should be a high point in the Republican campaign, it ain't a great result. In any case, let's see what the end of this week brings, shall we?

    Rass isn't THAT bad. It's Republican biased, of course, but it's not THAT terrible.

    I'm more of a Gallup and PPP man myself.


    I'm looking at the RCP average of all polls
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    Sep 02, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
    I heard a lot of people who aren't in favor of Obama express how disappointed they are with the speeches because not one provides a specific plan on restoring the economy.

    My favorite speech was by Susana Martinez. "Oh my God! I'm a Republican!" icon_lol.gificon_redface.gif
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    coolarmydude saidI heard a lot of people who aren't in favor of Obama express how disappointed they are with the speeches because not one provides a specific plan on restoring the economy.

    My favorite speech was by Susana Martinez. "Oh my God! I'm a Republican!" icon_lol.gificon_redface.gif


    Kinda like what happened with me about 58 years ago!
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    Sep 02, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.

    The Rasmussen poll is of likely voters (LV) while the Gallup is still of registered voters (RV). The general consensus among polling organizations, including Gallup, is that an LV poll is ultimately more accurate and will favor the GOP by 5-6 %. Gallup will switch over to LV closer to the election. There are differences in opinion among polling organizations about the LV methodologies and at what point LV polls are more meaningful. Some may question the accuracy of a Rasmussen LV poll, but there is consensus among pros that the RV polls favor Democrats, and that must be taken into account.



    Bullshit.

    In the last (2010) election a non-partisan fact-based analysis of the poll predictions from the major pollsters and the actual final election results found that Rasmussen was clearly the most inaccurate and the most biased.

    Rasmussen is completely non-credible.
    It's a part of the pro-Repub propaganda machine.
    Their poll numbers are total garbage.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

    And any pollster that includes Rasmussen's bogus numbers in their average will end up with an average that's inaccurate and skewed in a pro-Repub favor.
  • jock_1

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    Sep 02, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    I'm not sure if he will get a bump or not. I have tuned out the democrats and Obama and am strictly in trying to help Thompson and Romney/Ryan win. I think the republican convention was very strategic as to who they were targeting. You will see the difference in the 2 parties once you see the dems convention. Americans have made up thier minds on this election and this president. Four years was enough of an experiment and we didnt like the results.
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    socalfitness said
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.

    The Rasmussen poll is of likely voters (LV) while the Gallup is still of registered voters (RV). The general consensus among polling organizations, including Gallup, is that an LV poll is ultimately more accurate and will favor the GOP by 5-6 %. Gallup will switch over to LV closer to the election. There are differences in opinion among polling organizations about the LV methodologies and at what point LV polls are more meaningful. Some may question the accuracy of a Rasmussen LV poll, but there is consensus among pros that the RV polls favor Democrats, and that must be taken into account.



    Bullshit.

    In the last (2010) election a non-partisan fact-based analysis of the poll predictions from the major pollsters and the actual final election results found that Rasmussen was clearly the most inaccurate and the most biased.

    Rasmussen is completely non-credible.
    It's a part of the pro-Repub propaganda machine.
    Their poll numbers are total garbage.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

    And any pollster that includes Rasmussen's bogus numbers in their average will end up with an average that's inaccurate and skewed in a pro-Repub favor.

    The only thing that is total garbage is EVERYTHING you post here. As far as the New York Times, it is well known as just an extension of the Obama campaign, and their own ombudsman said they had a pervasive liberal bias. No different than thinkprogress, kos, and moveon.

    Editor calls out NY Times for liberal bias
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2012/08/28/editor-calls-out-ny-times-liberal-bias
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    Sep 02, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
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    RickRick91 said
    socalfitness said
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.

    The Rasmussen poll is of likely voters (LV) while the Gallup is still of registered voters (RV). The general consensus among polling organizations, including Gallup, is that an LV poll is ultimately more accurate and will favor the GOP by 5-6 %. Gallup will switch over to LV closer to the election. There are differences in opinion among polling organizations about the LV methodologies and at what point LV polls are more meaningful. Some may question the accuracy of a Rasmussen LV poll, but there is consensus among pros that the RV polls favor Democrats, and that must be taken into account.



    Bullshit.

    In the last (2010) election a non-partisan fact-based analysis of the poll predictions from the major pollsters and the actual final election results found that Rasmussen was clearly the most inaccurate and the most biased.

    Rasmussen is completely non-credible.
    It's a part of the pro-Repub propaganda machine.
    Their poll numbers are total garbage.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

    And any pollster that includes Rasmussen's bogus numbers in their average will end up with an average that's inaccurate and skewed in a pro-Repub favor.

    The only thing that is total garbage is EVERYTHING you post here. As far as the New York Times, it is well known as just an extension of the Obama campaign, and their own ombudsman said they had a pervasive liberal bias. No different than thinkprogress, kos, and moveon.

    Editor calls out NY Times for liberal bias
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2012/08/28/editor-calls-out-ny-times-liberal-bias

    This is Nate Silver's blog entry.

    He may be liberal, but he's on the money when it comes to electoral predictions.
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    Sep 02, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    libertpaulian said
    socalfitness said
    RickRick91 said
    socalfitness said
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    Looks like about a 5 point bounce for the combination of convention and the addition of Ryan. I still think we have a very long uphill slog, but given that I'm in Ohio, I'm doing everything I can for a Romney victory.

    The Rasmussen poll is of likely voters (LV) while the Gallup is still of registered voters (RV). The general consensus among polling organizations, including Gallup, is that an LV poll is ultimately more accurate and will favor the GOP by 5-6 %. Gallup will switch over to LV closer to the election. There are differences in opinion among polling organizations about the LV methodologies and at what point LV polls are more meaningful. Some may question the accuracy of a Rasmussen LV poll, but there is consensus among pros that the RV polls favor Democrats, and that must be taken into account.



    Bullshit.

    In the last (2010) election a non-partisan fact-based analysis of the poll predictions from the major pollsters and the actual final election results found that Rasmussen was clearly the most inaccurate and the most biased.

    Rasmussen is completely non-credible.
    It's a part of the pro-Repub propaganda machine.
    Their poll numbers are total garbage.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

    And any pollster that includes Rasmussen's bogus numbers in their average will end up with an average that's inaccurate and skewed in a pro-Repub favor.

    The only thing that is total garbage is EVERYTHING you post here. As far as the New York Times, it is well known as just an extension of the Obama campaign, and their own ombudsman said they had a pervasive liberal bias. No different than thinkprogress, kos, and moveon.

    Editor calls out NY Times for liberal bias
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2012/08/28/editor-calls-out-ny-times-liberal-bias

    This is Nate Silver's blog entry.

    He may be liberal, but he's on the money when it comes to electoral predictions.




    Yup.
    And Nate Silver deals in facts.
    Unlike poor socal who lives in a fantasy world of Fox "News" spin.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 03, 2012 11:37 AM GMT
    After that comedy show that they put on it's a wonder he has the votes he has now
  • thadjock

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    Sep 03, 2012 11:59 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidYup, well done Clint. Every which way but lucid.


    I think clint is part of a sleeper cell the dems have mobilised to infiltrate the GOP and take them down.

    angry old man? or lethal weapon?
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    Sep 03, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
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  • Webster666

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    Sep 03, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    jock_1 saidI'm not sure if he will get a bump or not. I have tuned out the democrats and Obama and am strictly in trying to help Thompson and Romney/Ryan win. I think the republican convention was very strategic as to who they were targeting. You will see the difference in the 2 parties once you see the dems convention. Americans have made up thier minds on this election and this president. Four years was enough of an experiment and we didnt like the results.



    You are correct that the voters have already made up their minds.
    The polls show that the President will be reelected.
    No doubt about it, whatsoever.
    And, the Democratic convention is almost certain to give the President even better poll numbers.
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    Sep 03, 2012 10:20 PM GMT
    Webster666 said
    jock_1 saidI'm not sure if he will get a bump or not. I have tuned out the democrats and Obama and am strictly in trying to help Thompson and Romney/Ryan win. I think the republican convention was very strategic as to who they were targeting. You will see the difference in the 2 parties once you see the dems convention. Americans have made up thier minds on this election and this president. Four years was enough of an experiment and we didnt like the results.



    You are correct that the voters have already made up their minds.
    The polls show that the President will be reelected.
    No doubt about it, whatsoever.
    And, the Democratic convention is almost certain to give the President even better poll numbers.


    Thats too bad, then its 4 more years down the shit hole for Obama and the dems untill Paul Ryan is elected president in 2016. Can our country survive financially with Obama in charge for 4 more years? I doubt it very much. More jobs lost, more companies closing and more blame game politics from the liberal lefties. Too bad for our country.