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    Sep 04, 2012 1:38 AM GMT
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    Sep 04, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
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    Sep 04, 2012 5:19 AM GMT
    Wow powerful! Thanks for that.
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    Sep 04, 2012 5:57 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidWasn't this released in 1940?

    So, seventy-two years later there's more greed and disparity in the world than ever.

    We don't learn, do we?


    And yet there is greater absolute prosperity for the poorest, despite that increased disparity, and a longer life in which to enjoy it. All enabled by men fueled by greed. The problem in 1940 was men who wanted to control things they did not own nor create, and men who wanted to control absolutely the people around them. The greediest man on Wall Street doesn't ask for so much.

    Funny thing how fine inspirational words sound, and how little they do. Just ask the hundreds of millions around the world who now enjoy electricity and potable water thanks to greedy men.

    Sincerely,

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    Sep 04, 2012 6:05 AM GMT
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    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidWasn't this released in 1940?

    So, seventy-two years later there's more greed and disparity in the world than ever.

    We don't learn, do we?


    And yet there is greater absolute prosperity for the poorest, despite that increased disparity, and a longer life in which to enjoy it. All enabled by men fueled by greed. The problem in 1940 was men who wanted to control things they did not own nor create, and men who wanted to control absolutely the people around them. The greediest man on Wall Street doesn't ask for so much.

    Funny thing how fine inspirational words sound, and how little they do. Just ask the hundreds of millions around the world who now enjoy electricity and potable water thanks to greedy men.

    Sincerely,

    An unnatural man


    It's not thanks to "greedy men." It's in SPITE of them. Despite their machinations and corruption, there are enough good people in this world to counterbalance it.

    Read the bio of Nikola Tesla. He died a pauper despite contributing more to humanity than most. Thomas Edison stole many of his ideas and then profited off of them. Tesla wasn't honored until after his death. Even Einstein wasn't richly rewarded.
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    Sep 04, 2012 6:20 AM GMT
    I think the idea of "greed" is one that is different from "wanting". While greed is derived from our sense of "want", it is a vacuous self-serving version of it, one that takes even at the expense of others without consideration or remorse. Wanting, and Needing something is different from feeling a self-righteous sense of Entitlement that Demands it, the latter being akin to 'Greed'. It's excessive, blinding, destructive, and destabilizing.

    I think most people are greedy about SOMETHING at one point or another. There are exceptions (as there always are) of course. Greedy for attention, greedy for materialism, greedy for sex, etc.

    As living organisms, we must take in order in order to survive. That is the principle of life, a system of taking and giving which allows for a balance to exist. Greed offsets the balance by taking more than what is necessary or required. It is the parasitic and excessive self-serving demand of something-- money from loved ones, demanding one's time, the hunter which kills more animals than what he can carry or is allowed to shoot.

    Also, I would argue that words do not have little impact unless they are words which lack the ability to affect others, galvanize the community, or provoke action. MLK Jr. inspired many through his words more than he did physically to deliver such messages. He was an icon to his followers.

    I think we can all agree: Good words take good works to make the impossible possible. icon_smile.gif

    Oh and BTW, I LOVE THIS VIDEO!! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 04, 2012 6:25 AM GMT
    great propaganda of the left that still lives to this day. Acceptance they demand, yet acceptance they do not give.
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    Sep 04, 2012 6:29 AM GMT
    active_athlete said
    principal0 said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidWasn't this released in 1940?

    So, seventy-two years later there's more greed and disparity in the world than ever.

    We don't learn, do we?


    And yet there is greater absolute prosperity for the poorest, despite that increased disparity, and a longer life in which to enjoy it. All enabled by men fueled by greed. The problem in 1940 was men who wanted to control things they did not own nor create, and men who wanted to control absolutely the people around them. The greediest man on Wall Street doesn't ask for so much.

    Funny thing how fine inspirational words sound, and how little they do. Just ask the hundreds of millions around the world who now enjoy electricity and potable water thanks to greedy men.

    Sincerely,

    An unnatural man


    It's not thanks to "greedy men." It's in SPITE of them. Despite their machinations and corruption, there are enough good people in this world to counterbalance it.

    Read the bio of Nikola Tesla. He died a pauper despite contributing more to humanity than most. Thomas Edison stole many of his ideas and then profited off of them. Tesla wasn't honored until after his death. Even Einstein wasn't richly rewarded.


    Ideas are not licenses for profit. A concept of how to more accurately predict protein folding does not lead to cures. Someone must be do the hard work of creating useful inventions that lead to improvement of life quality. Einstein, as brilliant as he was, did not create GPS satellites himself. Nor did he suffer financially, as he led a fiscally prudent life. Sadly, despite successfully selling patents, Tesla declined into increasing mental disarray and misused his resources.

    And let's not really bicker the fine points - I'll generously cede you these two counterexamples, and will offer in rebuttal India, China, Vietnam, Chile and Brazil. In which hundreds of millions have risen out of terrible poverty due to the relaxation in the early 90s of leftist anti-market policy, in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    Greedy men invest in Indian infrastructure, hoping to make a profit. Greedy men invested in the development of microprocessors that power your computers, and in the airplanes that carry you across the country. Not because they love you, but because they love Mammon. Greedy men are investing in the first mass market electric vehicles, and in private space travel. They invested in massive companies that coordinate how you get food to your table every night. And they use their incredible intelligence and tenacity towards these ends because they want to line their own pockets. And they are perfectly honest about their intentions, and you can believe those intentions because they are rational.

    Every thing that enables your comfortable life has been brought to you by the industry of greedy men. Be thankful.
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    Sep 04, 2012 6:49 AM GMT
    ParadiseLost saidI think the idea of "greed" is one that is different from "wanting". While greed is derived from our sense of "want", it is a vacuous self-serving version of it, one that takes even at the expense of others without consideration or remorse. Wanting, and Needing something is different from feeling a self-righteous sense of Entitlement that Demands it, the latter being akin to 'Greed'. It's excessive, blinding, destructive, and destabilizing.

    I think most people are greedy about SOMETHING at one point or another. There are exceptions (as there always are) of course. Greedy for attention, greedy for materialism, greedy for sex, etc.

    As living organisms, we must take in order in order to survive. That is the principle of life, a system of taking and giving which allows for a balance to exist. Greed offsets the balance by taking more than what is necessary or required. It is the parasitic and excessive self-serving demand of something-- money from loved ones, demanding one's time, the hunter which kills more animals than what he can carry or is allowed to shoot.

    Also, I would argue that words do not have little impact unless they are words which lack the ability to affect others, galvanize the community, or provoke action. MLK Jr. inspired many through his words more than he did physically to deliver such messages. He was an icon to his followers.

    I think we can all agree: Good words take good works to make the impossible possible. icon_smile.gif

    Oh and BTW, I LOVE THIS VIDEO!! icon_biggrin.gif


    In reality, I would actually argue you're quite right about defining greed as a sense of excess entitlement. In which case, I think those who are greedy could better be viewed as those who have done nothing to deserve what they attempt to take. Investors earn their keep.

    However when 'greed' is used in the context of income disparity, I think we all know what that is supposed to imply.