Putting faith in its place

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    Sep 05, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
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    Sep 05, 2012 4:03 AM GMT
    ahh, I'll be sure to incorporate this rhetoric into my debates, thanx icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 05, 2012 7:49 AM GMT
    Thanks - I liked it!
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    Sep 05, 2012 8:44 AM GMT
    Here's one on critical thinking, something that faith is the opposite of.

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    Sep 05, 2012 9:53 AM GMT
    Excellent!

    Thank you.
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    Sep 05, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    Cool but isn't it just a clip showing the same old refute point brought up in every debate?

    - If one cannot prove (insert god) exists then why should be even bother considering it possible.

    This video is just a visual way of attempting to pound that home.
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    Sep 05, 2012 3:58 PM GMT
    ATC84 saidCool but isn't it just a clip showing the same old refute point brought up in every debate?

    - If one cannot prove (insert god) exists then why should be even bother considering it possible.

    This video is just a visual way of attempting to pound that home.


    Visuals leave a better and lasting impression. Besides, I don't see why religious fanatics should have a monopoly on pounding icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 05, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    edmirer said
    I don't see why religious fanatics should have a monopoly on pounding icon_lol.gif


    No problem with that icon_wink.gif

    I'd rather see this video done with some Andrew Christian under wear models.

    Like those sexy Peta ads why not use sex to promote critical thinking.
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    Sep 05, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    It seems to me, if a person did not envision the moon as a sphere which could be walked on, it would have remained seen as a disk of light in the sky.

    When we are talking about a Spirit, people say that they believe there is a quality of life, or a particular uniqueness of energetic quality in sentient beings, which can be related to, though it is not really observed, other than in its effects, such as visible behavior patterns, personality, and other individual differences. Sure, it's really an eternal state of transfer (and reflection) of electronic particles throughout the body and environment, being interpreted perpetuated and reinterpreted by biochemical pathways and receptors, but don't try explaining that to someone with no interest in explaining it that way.

    For some, they'd only understand it to see it outside of themselves - for example, by imagining someone 'more powerful and intelligent' than any of us, walking around in the sky.

    There's also an appearance here and there of unexplained events which take place in ways which are sometimes viewed as 'different from the rest,' which some people report experiences with, and others not so much or not at all.

    Before there existed spoons, if an inventor looked at a wooden cube and saw a wooden spoon, and did not do their part to create that spoon, would we never have turned that cube into a spoon, or would someone else just have done it instead?

    And then, once that spoon is created for use, whether or not a different spoon is created, some people are going to continue to use that original spoon, maybe with a newer version, too, and some will insist that they never use another kind of spoon besides that one.

    So, while we could say God does not exist and did not do those things, I wonder, what else is God, and what else does God do?
  • ZacktheMan

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    Sep 08, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
    Very interesting video and topic.

    So I ask, can anyone here prove that our universe that we see all around us, does exist?

    For that matter, do you exist in this world we see all around us?