OMG, Canada, you need to get control of your guns!

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    Sep 05, 2012 12:17 PM GMT
    Quebec Shooting: Man Opens Fire During Victory Rally For Premier-Elect Pauline Marois

    "Parti Quebecois Leader Pauline Marois was rushed off stage during her victory speech Tuesday night after shots were fired.
    Montreal police tweeted that one person was killed and another critically injured when a 50-year-old man opened fire at Montreal's Metropolis concert hall where Marois was making her speech. The man has been arrested, according to police.

    After the shooting, the man lit fire to the rear of the building, according to police.

    The suspect, while being dragged toward a police cruiser, shouted in French, "The English are waking up!''

    The man was dressed in a housecoat."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/09/05/quebec-shooting-pauline-marois_n_1856653.html?icid=hp_front_top_art
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    Sep 05, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    the shooter was rmed with a long gun. It has been immediately pointed out that Harper conservatives have just scraped the long-gun registry over the objections of police forces across the country.


    Harper is an evangelical christian His efforts to remake Canada in the image of America are well documented, and are the growing awareness of it publicly is trabslating into increasing NDP support.
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    Sep 05, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebecvotes2012/story/2012/09/05/marois-victory-speech-shot-fired.html

    Yeah that's a sad story.. Most of the anglophones over here wants to see her dead for some reason, yesterday many people on facebook posted things like this:

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    this is insane -_-
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    Sep 06, 2012 10:46 AM GMT
    Stephane75 saidWhat happened Tuesday night was an isolated incident.
    The guy was a psycho. He showed up there with a bathrobe, that should say it all.

    As for the comments on the net by people, well it's unfortunately the reality. The separatist-federalist opinions in Québec are emotional and for 40 years people have been arguing about if Québec should separate or not. In families, we used to always say that there are 2 things we don't talk about.. politics and religion icon_smile.gif We should have added the Habs vs Nordiques back then though. lol

    IF such discussions are held respectfully, then it's fine, but people get emotional and you always have a few loonies who will cross the line.

    The last incident we had seen regarding politics in Québec was in 1984 (Denis Lortie, another guy off his meds).

    I love politics and love talking about it. But i always say to people: if you want to talk respectfully, then let's talk. icon_smile.gif


    For a non Canadian is the thrust of the separatist movement that they are oppressed? or just want self determination?
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    Sep 06, 2012 8:48 PM GMT
    Handguns have been severely restricted in Canada since 1936. Automatic weapons are illegal
    The long-gun ( rifle / shotgun) registry was feel good stupidity foisted on Canadians by the Liberals I believe. It cost hundreds of millions of dollar, if not a billion, to set up when we were told it was only going to cost a scant few million. It didn't accomplish anything since anyone purchasing a rifle beforehand had to go to the police station and acquire a FAC firearms acquisition certificate and all that entails.
    In short it was like having a drivers license, having your car registered as you must, then having to go and register it again. Nonsense.
    Lastly, all those gun crimes being committed in Toronto aren't done with rifles, they're done with iilegally obtained handguns smuggled in from the USA and they're NOT registered. So what the fuck was that waste of taxpayers dollars doing. Nothing but eating up tax dollars.
    It's one of the few things Harper has done that I strongly agree with.
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    Sep 06, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
    Upper_Cdn saidthe shooter was rmed with a long gun. It has been immediately pointed out that Harper conservatives have just scraped the long-gun registry over the objections of police forces across the country.


    Harper is an evangelical christian His efforts to remake Canada in the image of America are well documented, and are the growing awareness of it publicly is trabslating into increasing NDP support.

    well at least he quickly quit saying "god bless Canada" because when he started doing this a few years back, political a firestorm began.
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    Sep 06, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
    Stephane75 said[quote]
    For a non Canadian is the thrust of the separatist movement that they are oppressed? or just want self determination?


    Oppression was present in our past, but not now.

    Québec separatists want to be in control of their own decisions and finances.

    It has nothing to do with hate or disputes with the rest of Canada.. but rather with the desire to have our own country to make our own decisions. The way Canada works (or rather, doesn't work) right now is just not acceptable. Too big.. too many different realities and priorities to be feasable with one government at the center of such a big country and for so many different ''nations''.

    Beneful: Concerning the gun registry, I did not originally believe that the registry was a good thing, but after it was set up and police said they were using it regularly, i figured it might as well stay in place. Now that it's being completely scrapped (and the Conservatives are going to DESTROY all the gathered data), then it's really wasted money icon_sad.gif Québec actually asked for the data, in order to have our own registry, but it was refused. Data is going to be destroyed no matter what. [/quote]

    Doesn't matter if it was already set up and in place.. It didn't accomplish anything and it was still costing money to keep it running and updated. All it was was a political ploy to garner votes from the ill-informed. We have strict enough gun laws on the books now. . One of the arguments about how it would let cops know if there's a gun registered to an address before they go in is crazy talk... They should be under the blanket assumption that there is a gun in every house they enter... WHICH BTW I'd imagine they have always done even before that costly registry was created. None of it made sense