Mitt Romney Accidentally Confronts A Gay Veteran; Awesomeness Ensues

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    Sep 05, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    Back in December 2011 during a campaign stop in New Hampshire, Mitt Romney decided to drop by Vietnam War veteran Bob Garon's breakfast table for a quick photo-op. What Romney didn't realize is that Garon was sitting with his husband, whom he had married just a few months earlier.

    What followed might be the single greatest "oblivious Romney" moment of the entire campaign. Enjoy.

    If you still vote for Mittens and are gay after watching this clip shame on you is all I have to say.... icon_neutral.gif

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    Sep 05, 2012 10:15 PM GMT
    LOL
    Mitt is the worst presidential candidate in modern political history.
    What were the Repubs thinking nominating this clueless unlikable loser?
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    Sep 05, 2012 10:17 PM GMT
    RickRick91 saidLOL
    Mitt is the worst presidential candidate in modern political history.
    What were the Repubs thinking nominating this clueless unlikable loser?


    Just another win for our team. God I can't stand this man. He is almost as bad as Bush or Palin. Where do they get these people from?
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    Sep 05, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    It's interesting how some of us read things differently. With all due respect to the veteran, he asked Mitt Romney a direct question, and Mitt Romney gave him, without any hesitation whatsoever, an honest and direct answer. Obviously, it wasn't the answer the veteran wanted to hear, but then the veteran pretty much likely knew what Mitt Romney's answer was going to be before he even asked the question. Conveniently, the cameras were there to capture it all. I, like everyone else here, hope that Mitt Romney "evolves" one day like President Obama has on this issue. Regardless, I respect the fact that Romney did not back down from what he believes just to pander. I suspect that, had the veteran asked the very same question in 2008 to then candidate Obama, he would have gotten pretty much the same answer that Romney gave.
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    Cranky_No_More said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's interesting how some of us read things differently. With all due respect to the veteran, he asked Mitt Romney a direct question, and Mitt Romney gave him, without any hesitation whatsoever, an honest and direct answer. Obviously, it wasn't the answer the veteran wanted to hear, but then the veteran pretty much likely knew what Mitt Romney's answer was going to be before he even asked the question. Conveniently, the cameras were there to capture it all. I, like everyone else here, hope that Mitt Romney "evolves" one day like President Obama has on this issue. Regardless, I respect the fact that Romney did not back down from what he believes just to pander. I suspect that, had the veteran asked the very same question in 2008 to then candidate Obama, he would have gotten pretty much the same answer that Romney gave.

    Missing the point: Romney himself would have (and did) give very different answers in 1994 when he ran for Senate against Ted Kennedy. He's "evolved" all right-----backwards.

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    Sep 05, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    Cranky_No_More said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's interesting how some of us read things differently. With all due respect to the veteran, he asked Mitt Romney a direct question, and Mitt Romney gave him, without any hesitation whatsoever, an honest and direct answer. Obviously, it wasn't the answer the veteran wanted to hear, but then the veteran pretty much likely knew what Mitt Romney's answer was going to be before he even asked the question. Conveniently, the cameras were there to capture it all. I, like everyone else here, hope that Mitt Romney "evolves" one day like President Obama has on this issue. Regardless, I respect the fact that Romney did not back down from what he believes just to pander. I suspect that, had the veteran asked the very same question in 2008 to then candidate Obama, he would have gotten pretty much the same answer that Romney gave.

    Missing the point: Romney himself would have (and did) give very different answers in 1994 when he ran for Senate against Ted Kennedy. He's "evolved" all right-----backwards.



    I would welcome any example you can provide from 1994 in which Mitt Romney EVER was asked a similar direct question on "Gay Marriage" such as the veteran asked him above, or a single example in which Romney ever specifically endorsed "Gay Marriage" in 1994. Let me be clear, I absolutely disagree with Romney's stance on "Gay Marriage", however I do believe he has been pretty consistent about what he defines as "marriage" in 1994 to the present.
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    Was Mitt lying about his views then - or is he lying now?
    Either way - he's a liar.
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    Sep 05, 2012 11:23 PM GMT
    Still waiting for an example from 1994 in which Mitt Romney ever specifically endorsed "Gay Marriage". I will be waiting a long time because it never happened. He has been consistent on this issue from day one. If you can prove me wrong on this, by all means please do.
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    Cranky_No_More said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's interesting how some of us read things differently. With all due respect to the veteran, he asked Mitt Romney a direct question, and Mitt Romney gave him, without any hesitation whatsoever, an honest and direct answer. Obviously, it wasn't the answer the veteran wanted to hear, but then the veteran pretty much likely knew what Mitt Romney's answer was going to be before he even asked the question. Conveniently, the cameras were there to capture it all. I, like everyone else here, hope that Mitt Romney "evolves" one day like President Obama has on this issue. Regardless, I respect the fact that Romney did not back down from what he believes just to pander. I suspect that, had the veteran asked the very same question in 2008 to then candidate Obama, he would have gotten pretty much the same answer that Romney gave.

    Missing the point: Romney himself would have (and did) give very different answers in 1994 when he ran for Senate against Ted Kennedy. He's "evolved" all right-----backwards.


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    Sep 05, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidHahaha....Mittens....he needs to reread Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" again....and quick!


    So, what are you suggesting...Mitt should have told the man what he wanted to hear just to "Win Friends and Influence People"? The cold hard reality (and NOT one that makes me happy either) is that millions of people hold the same view as Mitt Romney on this issue.
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    Sep 05, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
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    But, of course, you probably can't come up with a single example from 1994 in which Mitt Romney specifically supported "Gay Marriage" either to prove this is the "truth". icon_rolleyes.gif
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    yourname2000 saidHahaha....Mittens....he needs to reread Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" again....and quick!


    So, what are you suggesting...Mitt should have told the man what he wanted to hear just to "Win Friends and Influence People"? The cold hard reality (and NOT one that makes me happy either) is that millions of people hold the same view as Mitt Romney on this issue.


    How you can sit here and defend his "views millions of people share" is beyond me.

    Really if after viewing that clip, as a gay man, as anyone who supports the troops, and as anyone who supposedly supports equal rights can still vote for this clown and defend him is beyond me. It really is at this point.

    As for Mitt's flip flopping here you go......


    http://www.npr.org/2012/05/10/152431577/romneys-views-on-gay-marriage-also-evolving

    Romney did everything he could to keep Massachusetts from becoming the "Las Vegas of gay marriage," backing a constitutional ban at the state and federal levels. But he denies any inconsistency, saying when he said he was for equality, he meant in employment and housing — not marriage.

    But even there, gay rights advocates take issue. In 1994, for example, Romney favored the idea of gays serving openly in the military. But by the time he ran for president in 2008, he argued against it. Also, after first backing legislation to protect gays and lesbians from job discrimination, Romney now opposes it.

    "You can't say, on the one hand, that you don't want to discriminate against people and, on the other hand, say that you don't think they should have any rights," says longtime Democratic activist Richard Socarides. "He calls them special rights."

    R. Clarke Cooper, head of the gay organization the Log Cabin Republicans, agrees: "He's parsed his words in a way that almost seems to some like he wants it both ways."
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    Sep 05, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
    David4985 said
    How you can sit here and defend his "views millions of people share" is beyond me.

    Really if after viewing that clip, as a gay man, as anyone who supports the troops, and as anyone who supposedly supports equal rights can still vote for this clown and defend him is beyond me.




    Hey, can I help it that you're just dense? What part of...

    CuriousJockAZ saidLet me be clear, I absolutely disagree with Romney's stance on "Gay Marriage", however I do believe he has been pretty consistent about what he defines as "marriage" in 1994 to the present.


    Did you NOT comprehend? I have said repeatedly in this forum and many others that I DO NOT AGREE WITH MITT ROMNEY'S STANCE ON GAY MARRIAGE.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    David4985 said
    How you can sit here and defend his "views millions of people share" is beyond me.

    Really if after viewing that clip, as a gay man, as anyone who supports the troops, and as anyone who supposedly supports equal rights can still vote for this clown and defend him is beyond me.




    Hey, can I help it that you're just dense? What part of...

    CuriousJockAZ saidLet me be clear, I absolutely disagree with Romney's stance on "Gay Marriage", however I do believe he has been pretty consistent about what he defines as "marriage" in 1994 to the present.


    Did you NOT comprehend?


    You disagree with him yet you defend his views and are still planing to vote for him which doing so support his anti gay views?

    I think I am comprehending that just like Mitt Romney your talking out of both sides of your mouth.

    You can preface your post saying anything you want but your actions and your posts speak otherwise.icon_rolleyes.gif




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    Sep 05, 2012 11:59 PM GMT
    David4985 said
    You disagree with him yet you defend his views and are still planing to vote for him which doing so support his anti gay views?

    How does one defend views you don't agree with? I said I do NOT agree with him on this issue. If that's not plain enough for ya -- sorry.

    David4985 saidI think I am comprehending that just like Mitt Romney your talking out of both sides of your mouth.

    Nope, sorry...I was pretty clear when I said...

    CuriousJockAZ saidLet me be clear, I absolutely disagree with Romney's stance on "Gay Marriage"
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    David4985 said
    You disagree with him yet you defend his views and are still planing to vote for him which doing so support his anti gay views?

    How does one defend views you don't agree with? I said I do NOT agree with him on this issue. If that's not plain enough for ya -- sorry.

    David4985 saidI think I am comprehending that just like Mitt Romney your talking out of both sides of your mouth.

    Nope, sorry...I was pretty clear when I said...

    CuriousJockAZ saidLet me be clear, I absolutely disagree with Romney's stance on "Gay Marriage"












    You don't agree with him on this issue and yet you say things like you "respect that Romney did not back down from what he believes", are happy in your mind he has been "consistent" in his anti gay views and has not
    "pandered".

    Again saying one thing out of one side of your mouth and then saying another. Prefacing and putting things in bold does not change the other parts of your posts.

    Also voting for this guy pretty much says you support his anti gay views even if you say you don't b/c if he becomes president that is what he will enforce. His anti gay views.
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    CuriousJockAZ saidDid you NOT comprehend?

    I think we comprehend quite clearly what you and Romney have done:



    Definition of tap-dance around: to evade a question or issue.
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    Sep 06, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidDid you NOT comprehend?

    I think we comprehend quite clearly what you and Romney have done:



    Definition of tap-dance around: to evade a question or issue.


    LMAO! icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 06, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    I think we comprehend quite clearly what you and Romney have done:



    Definition of tap-dance around: to evade a question or issue.




    Your comprehension skills seem to really be failing you if you think what Mitt Romney did was tap dance around that question. In fact, he could not have been more direct and forthright with his answer, disappointing as it was.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Art_Deco said
    I think we comprehend quite clearly what you and Romney have done:



    Definition of tap-dance around: to evade a question or issue.




    Your comprehension skills seem to really be failing you if you think what Mitt Romney did was tap dance around that question. In fact, he could not have been more direct and forthright with his answer, disappointing as it was.


    Mitt Romney did not tap dance in that specific clip but on gay rights and his views about stuff in general he has proven to flip flop all the time.

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    But, of course, you probably can't come up with a single example from 1994 in which Mitt Romney specifically supported "Gay Marriage" either to prove this is the "truth". icon_rolleyes.gif


    What is your point?? Mitt doesnt support the gay community. Why would any self respecting gay American vote for him? Unless of course, you dont define yourself by being gay, but by your greed, selfishnesss, and selfloathing...
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    Sep 06, 2012 12:30 AM GMT
    David4985 said
    You don't agree with him on this issue and yet you say things like you "respect that Romney did not back down from what he believes", are happy in your mind he has been "consistent" in his anti gay views and has not
    "pandered".

    Where did I say I was happy about it? Don't put words in my mouth that I not only didn't say, I didn't even think them.

    David4985 saidAgain saying one thing out of one side of your mouth and then saying another. Prefacing and putting things in bold does not change the other parts of your posts.

    The fact that you choose to interpret the words I say in your own way, regardless of how many times I spell it out to you is YOUR problem.

    David4985 saidAlso voting for this guy pretty much says you support his anti gay views even if you say you don't b/c if he becomes president that is what he will enforce his anti gay views.

    Nope, it says nothing of the kind...ESPECIALLY when I have said repeatedly that I do not agree with his views on some gay issues. I do, however, agree with him on many other issues, none of which have anything whatsoever having to do with anything gay-related. I'll be waiting until the end of time for a candidate I agree with on everything.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    David4985 said

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    But, of course, you probably can't come up with a single example from 1994 in which Mitt Romney specifically supported "Gay Marriage" either to prove this is the "truth". icon_rolleyes.gif


    What is your point?? Mitt doesnt support the gay community. Why would any self respecting gay American vote for him? Unless of course, you dont define yourself by being gay, but by your greed, selfishnesss, and selfloathing...


    Pretty much this. Any gay person with a shred of self respect would not be voting for this bigot. Don't like Obama then fine don't vote for him but voting for the other option is like blacks voting for people who support segregation. You have to be pretty "dense" to vote against your own civil rights. It is so sad he can't "comprehend" that. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 06, 2012 12:34 AM GMT
    catfish5 said

    What is your point??


    I made my point...repeatedly, thank you very much. If it's lost on you, oh wellll. No big shocker there icon_wink.gif