Now Romney says he likes key parts of Obamacare -- will not repeal the entire bill

  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 09, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    During the primary campaign, Romney repeatedly promised that if he was elected, he would repeal Obamacare "on day one."
    But then a funny thing happened. People realized Obamacare makes sense and they want to keep the parts that benefit them the most.
    Now Romney has had yet another conversion and says he WILL NOT repeal all of Obamacare.

    Yes, this is the same Obamacare that Republicans were calling "socialism" when it was passed -- leading them to threats to secede from the union, and tearfully claiming "freedom dies today!"

    And now the party's leader says he likes major parts of Obamacare, and they are so good they must be retained.
    My, how times change. icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    Mitt Romney On Obamacare: 'I'm Not Getting Rid Of All Of Health Care Reform'
    WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney said on Sunday that if he were elected president he would keep portions of President Barack Obama's signature health care law, a seemingly abrupt turn on an early campaign promise.

    "Well, I'm not getting rid of all of health care reform," the former Massachusetts governor said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press." "Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I'm going to put in place. One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage. Two is to assure that the marketplace allows for individuals to have policies that cover their family up to whatever age they might like. I also want individuals to be able to buy insurance, health insurance, on their own as opposed to only being able to get it on a tax advantage basis through their company."
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/09/mitt-romney-obamacare-_n_1868385.html

    Here is a video from the Romney campaign on Obamacare, promising "full repeal, day one, job one."
    http://thehill.com/video/campaign/235499-romney-campaign-day-one-job-one-repeal-obamacare

    That was from late June, apparently before the latest shake of the Etch-A-Sketch.

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    Sep 09, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
    Mittens Romney - the King of the Flip-Floppers strikes again!

    Even the Repubs must be disgusted by this latest flip-flop.
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  • Webster666

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    Sep 09, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    He's a dumb ass.
    He can't make up his mind what he's for or what he's against.
    In other words, he stands for NOTHING.

    He's trying to be all things to all voters.
    That's impossible.
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    Sep 09, 2012 8:22 PM GMT
    Actually, his only real goal is to add the Presidency to his resume. He will say anything to be elected, and once in office will only do what the republican leaders tell him to do in hopes of getting a second term.




    Webster666 saidHe's a dumb ass.
    He can't make up his mind what he's for or what he's against.
    In other words, he stands for NOTHING.

    He's trying to be all things to all voters.
    That's impossible.
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    Sep 09, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    " Mitt Romney said on Sunday that if he were elected president he would keep portions of President Barack Obama's signature health care law, a seemingly abrupt turn on an early campaign promise. "

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    In every area of the economy, including healthcare, MITT WOULD BE A DISASTER.

    Business executives would be in constant confusion about a Romney administration's policies.
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    Sep 09, 2012 8:52 PM GMT
    Both the thread title and the text from the Huffington Post article dishonestly misquote what Romney said. He did not say he liked parts of the Obamacare law. He said before and said again in the interview that he would support repealing Obamacare in its entirety. He has characterized the plan as "repeal and replace", and that has not changed at all. He has, as have other Republicans, said that there were aspects of health care reform that should be provided when Obamacare is replaced by a different plan. Those aspects which are in Obmacare include addressing pre-existing conditions.

    Nice try though.
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 09, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
    It's so funny watching Mitt tying himself in knots trying to justify his latest major flip-flop.
    For example: now that Romney is endorsing parts of Obamacare, it's suddenly not called "Obamacare" anymore!

    He's now calling it, vaguely, "health care reform."
    Really, Mitt? And who was behind that health care reform? What happened to your many promises to repeal it in its entirety?

    “I’m not getting rid of all of health-care reform. Of course there are a number of things that I like in health-care reform that I’m going to put in place,” Romney said on NBC’s “Meet The Press.”

    And now the Washington Post is picking up the story:

    Mitt Romney says he wouldn’t end every provision in federal health-care law
    While Mitt Romney has vowed an effort to repeal and replace the federal health-care law if he is elected in November, the GOP presidential candidate said in an interview broadcast Sunday that there are appealing elements of the reform plan he wouldn’t seek to end.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/09/mitt-romney-says-he-wouldnt-end-every-provision-in-federal-health-care-law/
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    Sep 09, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
    socalfitness says:

    " what Romney said. He did not say he liked parts of the Obamacare law. He said before and said again "

    and of course, Saggy.........YOU WIN !

    BY SAYING WHAT ROMNEY SAYS.....

    OR HAS SAID........

    .....OR WILL BE SAYING TOMORROW...

    ....is absolutely certain to make you right-------at some point.



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    Sep 09, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
    So basically, like the article, you're saying they like some of his ideas and will keep them in "their own plan".

    Nice try though.

    socalfitness saidBoth the thread title and the text from the Huffington Post article dishonestly misquote what Romney said. He did not say he liked parts of the Obamacare law. He said before and said again in the interview that he would support repealing Obamacare in its entirety. He has characterized the plan as "repeal and replace", and that has not changed at all. He has, as have other Republicans, said that there were aspects of health care reform that should be provided when Obamacare is replaced by a different plan. Those aspects which are in Obmacare include addressing pre-existing conditions.

    Nice try though.
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 09, 2012 9:19 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidHe said before and said again in the interview that he would support repealing Obamacare in its entirety.


    Really?

    I’m not getting rid of all of health-care reform. Of course there are a number of things that I like in health-care reform that I’m going to put in place,” Romney said on NBC’s “Meet The Press.”
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 09, 2012 9:23 PM GMT
    RickRick91 saidMittens Romney - the King of the Flip-Floppers strikes again!

    Even the Repubs must be disgusted by this latest flip-flop.
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    Many Republicans I talk to have had it with Romney's endless policy shifts and claims to be on every side of every issue.

    But the GOP shouldn't get too upset over his endorsement of key parts of Obamacare. In the next couple of days he will have a new position and claim he never said any such thing. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Sep 09, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    creyente saidSo basically, like the article, you're saying they like some of his ideas and will keep them in "their own plan".

    Nice try though.

    It has always been the plan to provide some features such as pre-existing conditions, but not with the specific provisions of the Obamacare law, which Romney has consistently said he would support its repeal.
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    Sep 09, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
    Balancing saidsocalfitness says:

    " what Romney said. He did not say he liked parts of the Obamacare law. He said before and said again "

    and of course, Saggy.........YOU WIN !

    BY SAYING WHAT ROMNEY SAYS.....

    OR HAS SAID........

    .....OR WILL BE SAYING TOMORROW...

    ....is absolutely certain to make you right-------at some point.


    Balancing,

    Your continuing to call me Saggy has motivated me to help you out. It is obvious you have no clue as to what pectoral development is, and your photo clearly illustrates this. Consider your photo, http://www.realjock.com/profileadult/550850 What we have is a "physique" that shows no pectoral development, in fact, no muscle tone at all, but a generous layer of all-encompassing fat. I just so happened to find another photo that looks just like you but without the head or parts below the naval. Thought about posting that photo here for illustrative purposes, but maybe not the right thing to do.

    So I've got an idea. I plan to be in your area within the next few weeks and I propose picking you up and going to a gym. I'm a member of a number of gyms that have local clubs in your area. We'll go to the bench press. I'll do my workout and you can try and do the same. Given your lack of a chest, it might be a bit too much, but don't worry. I'm a good spotter and I'll prevent that bar from crashing down on your throat. Promise. Maybe you will be more comfortable with a bar without any weights at all. An olympic bar alone weighs 45 lbs, which might still be a challenge for you.

    Then we can do some cardio together. I have an extensive martial arts background and know some fun routines. But don't worry, I don't break bones.

    Then we can get some coffee. I'll invite another guy to join us, you know the guy you said was on food stamps. What a thing to make up. We can have a discussion about the problems in name calling, and maybe some "lessons" on manners.

    Sounds like fun, right. I'll give you a call. No need to give me your number - I already have it. And I can also find my way to your place, so I don't need directions.

    Looking forward to it. Is that a plan, Balancing buddy?
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 09, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    Balancing saidsocalfitness says:

    " what Romney said. He did not say he liked parts of the Obamacare law. He said before and said again "

    and of course, Saggy.........YOU WIN !

    BY SAYING WHAT ROMNEY SAYS.....

    OR HAS SAID........

    .....OR WILL BE SAYING TOMORROW...

    ....is absolutely certain to make you right-------at some point.





    Reminds of Clinton's speech, when he said, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Romney is as dumb as a broken clock!

    Socalfitness will say anything in blind support of the idiot.icon_lol.gif
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 09, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    Given enough time, Romney will flip flip his way to the left entirely, but we don't have time to wait for him to get a clue, we need to elect Obama. He's the right leader for our times, and the best person we have to run the country. I'm so glad Bill Clinton is campaigning for him and helping deliver that message. icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 09, 2012 9:56 PM GMT
    Cranky_No_More said
    socalfitness said I'll invite another guy to join us, you know the guy you said was on food stamps. What a thing to make up. We can have a discussion about the problems in name calling, and maybe some "lessons" on manners.

    Sounds like fun, right. I'll give you a call. No need to give me your number - I already have it. And I can also find my way to your place, so I don't need directions.

    Looking forward to it. Is that a plan, Balancing buddy?

    I think making threats is a very poor idea.

    No threat intended.... just a fun get together and maybe a nice friendly talk about why it's not nice calling names and a friendly encouragement to stop it.
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    Sep 09, 2012 10:05 PM GMT
    Cranky_No_More said
    I think making threats is a very poor idea.


    He's lucky. Socal threatened to unleash the Feds on me. That was after he made a barely veiled threat to expose information about my 'interesting background'. If it were not so amusingly pathetic, it could easily be taken the wrong way.

    (My 'crime' btw was to pull his chain, by saying I had encouraged friends in the US to volunteer to make calls for the Romney campaign.)
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 09, 2012 10:25 PM GMT
    Cranky_No_More said
    socalfitness said I'll invite another guy to join us, you know the guy you said was on food stamps. What a thing to make up. We can have a discussion about the problems in name calling, and maybe some "lessons" on manners.

    Sounds like fun, right. I'll give you a call. No need to give me your number - I already have it. And I can also find my way to your place, so I don't need directions.

    Looking forward to it. Is that a plan, Balancing buddy?

    I think making threats is a very poor idea.


    Agreed. People who can't have political disagreements without resorting to thinly-veiled threats should not be allowed on this forum.
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    Sep 09, 2012 10:32 PM GMT
    KissTheSky said
    Cranky_No_More said
    socalfitness said I'll invite another guy to join us, you know the guy you said was on food stamps. What a thing to make up. We can have a discussion about the problems in name calling, and maybe some "lessons" on manners.

    Sounds like fun, right. I'll give you a call. No need to give me your number - I already have it. And I can also find my way to your place, so I don't need directions.

    Looking forward to it. Is that a plan, Balancing buddy?

    I think making threats is a very poor idea.


    Agreed. People who can't have political disagreements without resorting to thinly-veiled threats should not be allowed on this forum.

    People should also not be allowed to continually try to denigrate someone physically. (Even though it is baloney.)
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    Sep 09, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Cranky_No_More said
    socalfitness said I'll invite another guy to join us, you know the guy you said was on food stamps. What a thing to make up. We can have a discussion about the problems in name calling, and maybe some "lessons" on manners.

    Sounds like fun, right. I'll give you a call. No need to give me your number - I already have it. And I can also find my way to your place, so I don't need directions.

    Looking forward to it. Is that a plan, Balancing buddy?

    I think making threats is a very poor idea.

    No threat intended.... just a fun get together and maybe a nice friendly talk about why it's not nice calling names and a friendly encouragement to stop it.





    FYI nobody is afraid of you, you flabby pathetic loser.

    Your threats aren't going to intimidate anyone into silence.
    If you don't like having Romney's blatant flip-flops called out - too bad.

    Here's another blatant flip-flop from Mitt that we heard today:
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80952.html?hp=f2
    Now Mittens is against tax cuts for the rich - the Repub party's own economic policy!


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    Sep 09, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    RickRick91 saidFYI nobody is afraid of you, you flabby pathetic loser.

    Your threats aren't going to intimidate anyone into silence.

    Oh Ricky, so angry as always. So the professionals in Scarsdale weren't able to help you with your anger management and other issues? Back to Arizona? Too bad.
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    Sep 10, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    SAGGY,

    I've already had quite the exchange with GlamourShotsAZ today over how hurt your feelings are regarding any reference to, as he calls it, "your physicality".

    HMMMMM, you know what I find amazing about you???

    For an acknowledged RACIST........and brain-addled CONSPIRACY BIRTHER THEORIST......who has so thoroughly ruined his reputation on this site...

    AND YET........

    YOU are concerned about what I think of YOUR TITS !!!!

    Really?

    Get your priorities straight. AND BY ALL MEANS, whenever they let you out of The Home, I will be more than curious to meet you.

    And OMG, you are using CONSERVATIVE JOCK as your character reference!!!!!

    Oh do swing by to pick me up in his PRIVATE JET !
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    Sep 10, 2012 12:12 AM GMT
    Balancing saidSAGGY,

    I've already had quite the exchange with GlamourShotsAZ today over how hurt your feelings are regarding any reference to, as he calls it, "your physicality".

    HMMMMM, you know what I find amazing about you???

    For an acknowledged RACIST........and brain-addled CONSPIRACY BIRTHER THEORIST......who has so thoroughly ruined his reputation on this site...

    AND YET........

    YOU are concerned about what I think of YOUR TITS !!!!

    Really?

    Get your priorities straight. AND BY ALL MEANS, whenever they let you out of The Home, I will be more than curious to meet you.

    And OMG, you are using CONSERVATIVE JOCK as your character reference!!!!!

    Oh do swing by to pick me up in his PRIVATE JET !

    I never commented to CJAZ about your name calling. Any exchange he made was on his own without my knowledge.

    Based on your photo, you ought to worry about your own tits, handsome.
  • comfortablynu...

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    Sep 10, 2012 12:16 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    creyente saidSo basically, like the article, you're saying they like some of his ideas and will keep them in "their own plan".

    Nice try though.

    It has always been the plan to provide some features such as pre-existing conditions, but not with the specific provisions of the Obamacare law, which Romney has consistently said he would support its repeal.


    When I hear "repeal Obamacare," I assume the person saying it means "repeal the health care mandate" or "repeal what is paying for health care reform." Most all of the other aspects of the bill are very popular.

    Since no one in the GOP has mentioned what they want to replace Obamacare with, I'll ask you...

    How do you keep the popular portions of Obamacare in place, most specifically the bans on lifetime limits and denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions, without a mechanism like the mandate in place? The millions of new customers expected to have joined the rolls of private health insurers by the time the mandate goes into effect is what will allow them to remain profitable.

    Also in regards to the mandate, how do you keep what Mitt Romney as governor of Massachusetts called "free riders" in his USA Today op-ed in support of a federal health care mandate from taking advantage of the ban on denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions and waiting until they become Ill to purchase insurance?

    How do you plan on paying for states that choose to opt into the expansion of medicaid and subsidies for families who purchase health care without any new source of revenue?
  • comfortablynu...

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    Sep 10, 2012 12:20 AM GMT
    Misspoke... Romney was no longer Governor at the time he penned that Op-ed. He was just Mitt "I'm unemployed, too" Romney.