Leftist NY Times Columnist Maureen Dowd blasts Obama: Playing Now: Hail to Us Chiefs. The buck stops with us.

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    Sep 10, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sunday/dowd-playing-now-hail-to-us-chiefs.html?_r=1&ref=maureendowd

    HOW did the one formerly known as The One go for two?

    In his renomination acceptance speech here on Thursday night, he told us that America’s problems were tougher to solve than he had originally thought.

    And that’s why he has kindly agreed to give us more time.

    Because, after all, it’s our fault.

    “So you see, the election four years ago wasn’t about me,” President Obama explained. “It was about you. My fellow citizens, you were the change.”

    We were the change!

    We were the change? Us?

    How on earth could we have let so much of what we fought for slip away? How did we allow Mitch McConnell, Karl Rove, the super PACs, the Tea Party, the lobbyists and the special interests take away our voice?

    “Only you can make sure that doesn’t happen,” the president chastised us. “Only you have the power to move us forward.”

    We’re so lame. We were naïve, brimming with confidence that we could slow the rise of the oceans, heal the planet, fix the cracks in the Capitol dome.

    We never should have let the Congressional Democrats run wild with their stimulus spending on pork that didn’t even create the right kinds of jobs.

    It also took us too long to realize what the party of know-nothings and no-everything was up to. We should never have walked into that blind budget alley with John Boehner. We should have realized, after the first of three phone calls went unreturned, that even with a few more merlots under his belt, the speaker wouldn’t have the guts to tell us he couldn’t get a grand bargain through his Tea Party House.

    We should never have delegated health care to Max Baucus and let him waste time trying to cut a deal with Senate Republicans who had no intention of going along even with ideas — like the individual mandate — that they backed first.

    We should have listened to Joe Biden instead of getting rolled by the generals on Afghanistan.

    We’re older, wiser and grayer now.

    It’s depressing to look back and remember what soaring hopes we had for ourselves only four years ago. Did we overdo it with the Greek columns? Sheesh, a million people showed up for our inauguration. Now we brag when we break 10,000.

    What a drag to realize that Hillary was right: big rallies and pretty words don’t always get you where you want to go. Who knew that Eric Cantor wouldn’t instantly swoon at the sound of our voice or the sight of our smile?

    Our forbearing leader didn’t pander to us with that standard breakup line: “It’s not you, it’s me.”

    He gave it to us straight: It’s not me, it’s you.

    If we get a second term, maybe Republicans will stop blocking, and blowing racial dog whistles. Maybe they’ll realize that they should deal with us, especially if they lose enough Latino voters to cost them not just the White House but Congressional seats.

    As the president told us, “our destinies are bound together.” So we have to stop holding him back when he’s trying to go “Forward.”

    We admit we like our solitude — maybe a little too much given our chosen profession. We could have opened up our weekend golf foursomes to a few pols — even women! — rather than just the usual junior aides.

    And we could probably stomach giving lifts in the limo to some mayors and members of Congress, and actually pretend that we care about their advice — not to mention their votes.

    Maybe we could drop the disdainful body language. For that matter, shouldn’t we put a little more effort into helping elect Democrats to Congress? Just because we only did a cameo in the Senate doesn’t mean some people there don’t think of it as a star turn.

    Apparently, etiquette matters. We could send out a few thank-you notes to big donors and celebrities who give benefit concerts. Oddly, it turns out folks like to frame notes signed by the president and hang them on the wall.

    Maybe we relied too much on Valerie Jarrett, a k a the Night Stalker and Keeper of the Essence. She says people should woo us. But could it be that we need to woo them as well?

    How could we have let the storybook president lose his narrative?

    How could we keep failing to explain what changes we have gotten through? Why is salesmanship so beneath us?

    It’s ironic that Bill Clinton, who couldn’t pass his own health care bill, does a better job of selling ours. Even Obama said on Friday that we should make Bill a cabinet member — “the secretary of ’splainin’ stuff.”

    We are grateful to the president for deigning to point out our flaws and giving us another chance.

    “I’m the president,” he intoned.

    But We, the People, must do the work.

    The buck stops with us.
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    Sep 10, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
    That was an interesting take on the Obama speech I hadn't really considered.
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    Sep 10, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
    Oh but Maureen just loves macerating Mitt!icon_wink.gif You forgot that part!icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidOh but Maureen just loves macerating Mitt!icon_wink.gif You forgot that part!icon_wink.gif



    mac·er·ate (ms-rt)
    v. mac·er·at·ed, mac·er·at·ing, mac·er·ates
    v.tr.
    1. To make soft by soaking or steeping in a liquid.
    2. To separate into constituents by soaking.
    3. To cause to become lean, usually by starvation; emaciate.
    v.intr.
    To become soft or separated into constituents by soaking: "His winemaker allowed the juice and skins of the white grapes to macerate together overnight before pressing" (Gerald Asher).
    n. (-t)
    A substance prepared or produced by macerating.
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    Sep 10, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    TropicalMark saidOh but Maureen just loves macerating Mitt!icon_wink.gif You forgot that part!icon_wink.gif



    mac·er·ate (ms-rt)
    v. mac·er·at·ed, mac·er·at·ing, mac·er·ates
    v.tr.
    1. To make soft by soaking or steeping in a liquid.
    2. To separate into constituents by soaking.
    3. To cause to become lean, usually by starvation; emaciate.
    v.intr.
    To become soft or separated into constituents by soaking: "His winemaker allowed the juice and skins of the white grapes to macerate together overnight before pressing" (Gerald Asher).
    n. (-t)
    A substance prepared or produced by macerating.
    Maceration, in sewage treatment, the use of a machine that reduces solids to small pieces in order to deal with rags and other solid waste. Also, macerating toilets, which use a grinding or blending mechanism to reduce human waste to a slurry, which can then be moved by pumping. This is useful when, for example, water pressure is low or one wishes to install a toilet below the sewer drain pipe.

    Maceration can be achieved by using a chopper pump in the sewage lift station or at the wastewater treatment plant.

    Maceration, in food processing plants; the use of a chopper pump to create a "blended" slurry of food waste and other organic byproducts. The macerated substance, which can be described as a protein-rich slurry, is often used for animal feed, fertilizer, and for co-digestion feedstock in biogas plants.icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    Socal your post reminds me of a cartoon my cousin once drew.


    A man rolls over in bed and looks adoringly at his wife. He kisses her sweetly on her neck and she wakes up.

    "Good morning, funnyface", he says as he gently strokes stray hair from her face while taking her into a magnificent loving embrace.

    She says,

    "What the hell is THAT supposed to mean!",
    mad as a hornet.
    Her interpretation of the speech reminds me of that girl. icon_lol.gif

    That you probably agree with her makes you like that cartoon girl as well. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    meninlove said Socal your post reminds me of a cartoon my cousin once drew.


    A man rolls over in bed and looks adoringly at his wife. He kisses her sweetly on her neck and she wakes up.

    "Good morning, funnyface", he says as he gently strokes stray hair from her face while taking her into a magnificent loving embrace.

    She says,

    "What the hell is THAT supposed to mean!",
    mad as a hornet.
    Her interpretation of the speech reminds me of that girl. icon_lol.gif

    That you probably agree with her makes you like that cartoon girl as well. icon_wink.gif

    Well, well, well, aren't we ornery. I get criticized when posting from Fox News because they are baaaaad, get criticized when posting from Wall Street Journal because they are owned by News Corp, now get criticized when posting something from even the New York Times. I guess the People's Weekly World is now the acceptable standard for RJ. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
    Now now, perhaps there's a lesson for you here. Perhaps you should consider that those us on the other side of the fence, so to speak, don't march in a lock-step of unified agreement like you imagine. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said...the use of a machine that reduces solids to small pieces...

    Many modern home dishwashers have a macerator function, so that dinnerware does not require a complete pre-rinsing before going into the machine. But Dowd does not need to macerate Romney's mess. He's like a disposable paper plate, to be thrown out when the party's over, never to be seen again.
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    Sep 10, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    meninlove said Now now, perhaps there's a lesson for you here. Perhaps you should consider that those us on the other side of the fence, so to speak, don't march in a lock-step of unified agreement like you imagine. icon_lol.gif


    Except for here - where you seem so unable to think for yourselves icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
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    meninlove said Now now, perhaps there's a lesson for you here. Perhaps you should consider that those us on the other side of the fence, so to speak, don't march in a lock-step of unified agreement like you imagine. icon_lol.gif


    Except for here - where you seem so unable to think for yourselves icon_wink.gif


    Oh, go throw some darts at pics of welfare recipients. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Now now, perhaps there's a lesson for you here. Perhaps you should consider that those us on the other side of the fence, so to speak, don't march in a lock-step of unified agreement like you imagine. icon_lol.gif


    Except for here - where you seem so unable to think for yourselves icon_wink.gif


    Oh, go throw some darts at pics of welfare recipients. icon_lol.gif
    LMAO!

    FTW!
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    Sep 10, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Now now, perhaps there's a lesson for you here. Perhaps you should consider that those us on the other side of the fence, so to speak, don't march in a lock-step of unified agreement like you imagine. icon_lol.gif


    Except for here - where you seem so unable to think for yourselves icon_wink.gif


    Oh, go throw some darts at pics of welfare recipients. icon_lol.gif


    Figures you'd think that was funny. Indicative of how you really feel about the poor - but that's pretty consistent with the policies you've advocated.
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    Sep 10, 2012 6:18 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Now now, perhaps there's a lesson for you here. Perhaps you should consider that those us on the other side of the fence, so to speak, don't march in a lock-step of unified agreement like you imagine. icon_lol.gif


    Except for here - where you seem so unable to think for yourselves icon_wink.gif


    Oh, go throw some darts at pics of welfare recipients. icon_lol.gif


    Figures you'd think that was funny. Indicative of how you really feel about the poor - but that's pretty consistent with the policies you've advocated.
    What? You past time of throwing darts at welfare recipients? Yeah that's hilarious! What does mom and dad say? Are they dart players too, or is only you in that household?
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    Sep 10, 2012 6:22 PM GMT
    Riddler, confused, said, " Indicative of how you really feel about the poor"

    Ummm, no, the suggestion was one I knew you'd already been doing, so I thought suggesting doing something that traditionally made you feel better would loosen up that hair on your head that today is apparently a little too tight.

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    Sep 10, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif
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    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif
    Then make em buy health insurance at the open market rates!
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    Sep 10, 2012 6:58 PM GMT
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    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif
    Then make em buy health insurance at the open market rates!


    ...which they'd only be able to afford by pawning parts of themselves at the Organs R Us chain stores Riddler would promptly open; after all, corporations should run everything and anything should be available on the open market. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif


    Republicans want cheap labor and no healthcare benefits. They're the offspring of an ideology in this country that has gone under many banners, but their stronghold has eroded, starting with abolitionists, who freed the slaves, then unions, who empowered the workers. Riddler wants to admire the fruit of labor but cares more about the dollars and cents of industry than the value of lives for the people who have to put food on the table.
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    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif


    Just as you'd like to keep them unemployed by raising the minimum wage, and dependent on government by loosening welfare requirements and increasing benefits. You don't really want them to survive. You want to keep them dependent.
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    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif


    Just as you'd like to keep them unemployed by raising the minimum wage, and dependent on government by loosening welfare requirements and increasing benefits. You don't really want them to survive. You want to keep them dependent.


    ...and I'll bet you think the room you're standing in for that pic is painted bright red. icon_lol.gif

    Really sorry Riddley Widdly, but far wiser heads than yours have been running our country and provinces. You're nothing new and your way didn't work.
    What, you think your old ideas were never tried? icon_lol.gif

    Now why don't you and Socal and SB go create another sock account you can share like that last one?
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    Sep 10, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif


    Just as you'd like to keep them unemployed by raising the minimum wage, and dependent on government by loosening welfare requirements and increasing benefits. You don't really want them to survive. You want to keep them dependent.


    Slaves are employees, so are sweatshop workers. Trust me, Riddler, minimum wage is important. So is a healthcare system that doesn't make you lose everything just because your aging parent or child gets sick.
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    Sep 10, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif


    Just as you'd like to keep them unemployed by raising the minimum wage, and dependent on government by loosening welfare requirements and increasing benefits. You don't really want them to survive. You want to keep them dependent.


    ...and I'll bet you think the room you're standing in for that pic is painted bright red. icon_lol.gif

    Really sorry Riddley Widdly, but far wiser heads than yours have been running our country and provinces. You're nothing new and your way didn't work.
    What, you think your old ideas were never tried? icon_lol.gif

    Now why don't you and Socal and SB go create another sock account you can share like that last one?


    Sorry, wiser heads have run our country and provinces - and they're also considerably wiser than yours. It's really too bad that you pay so little heed to things like economics. You mean your ideas of spending more money, creating more entitlements and profligate spending have been tried? Oh right, Greece... icon_rolleyes.gif

    As for sock account - I've never had one and will only speak for myself though I often find it telling the racists you seem to enjoy associating yourself with like TropicalMark and UpperCdn. Perhaps one day you will find yourself actually being knowledgeable about something you argue about - but today apparently is not that day icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 10, 2012 7:26 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    meninlove said Riddler would cut the welfare rates, put 'em to work and at the same time eradicate minimum wage so they'd...

    .....end up back on welfare along with all the current minimum wage earners who suddenly wouldn't be making enough to survive.. icon_lol.gif


    Just as you'd like to keep them unemployed by raising the minimum wage, and dependent on government by loosening welfare requirements and increasing benefits. You don't really want them to survive. You want to keep them dependent.


    Slaves are employees, so are sweatshop workers. Trust me, Riddler, minimum wage is important. So is a healthcare system that doesn't make you lose everything just because your aging parent or child gets sick.


    Trust you? Rather than pretty much a consensus among most economists? Are you aware of price controls and why they don't work? I agree that healthcare is important. I just think that it's too important to rely on government to provide it effectively. Then again you probably trust Meninlove and his delusions about the sustainability of the current healthcare system in Canada.
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    Sep 10, 2012 7:36 PM GMT

    Meanwhile in Riddler's supposed province of residence, welfare is about 600 a month with an extra 100 for transportation if you're able to work, can't find a job so are volunteering, like helping at a food bank.
    The minimum wage is 10.25 an hour, but I guess Riddly Widdly thinks people would rather not work 30 hours a week and make roughly double the welfare amount.

    Riddly Widdly, the minimum wage is a powerful incentive to get people off welfare.

    Here. I'll make it simpler for you. If Jane gets one small meal a day for not working, but gets three meals a day if she does, what do you think Jane would rather do?

    To our US friends; I'm trying to keep Riddly Widdly busy so he'll butt out of telling you what to do. Nothing like a wealthy person in another country telling the poor in your country to make do with even less, eh?