Study: No Negative Impact From DADT Repeal

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  Sep 10, 2012 5:30 PM GMT

  Duh.
  
  

  http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/09/study-no-negative-impact-dadt-repealThe Palm Center also attempted to contact opponents of repeal, including 553 of the 1,167 retired military officials who signed a letter saying ending Don't Ask, Don't Tell would "break" the military, as well 22 "known public opponents of DADT repeal." In both cases, the vast majority those who had opposed repeal declined to be interviewed.

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  Sep 10, 2012 5:42 PM GMT

  q1w2e3 saidDuh.
  
  

  http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/09/study-no-negative-impact-dadt-repealThe Palm Center also attempted to contact opponents of repeal, including 553 of the 1,167 retired military officials who signed a letter saying ending Don't Ask, Don't Tell would "break" the military, as well 22 "known public opponents of DADT repeal." In both cases, the vast majority those who had opposed repeal declined to be interviewed.

  Yup.. duh!
  
  pansies! wimps!

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  Sep 10, 2012 6:05 PM GMT

  It is not as if this was some bold new experiment. They only had to look at the armed forces of other nations (including the UK) to know that allowing gay people to serve has zero impact on operational or general service efficiency. At least the Commandant of the Marine Corps had the balls to admit he was wrong and has probably been the most gay-supportive service chief since DADT was repealed.

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  Ex_Mil8 saidIt is not as if this was some bold new experiment. They only had to look at the armed forces of other nations (including the UK) to know that allowing gay people to serve has zero impact on operational or general service efficiency. At least the Commandant of the Marine Corps had the balls to admit he was wrong and has probably been the most gay-supportive service chief since DADT was repealed.

  And that is a fact!

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  Sep 10, 2012 6:18 PM GMT

  And it never would've happened if McCain had been elected, instead of Obama in 08. This just goes to show that Obama has his finger on the pulse of our nation. Romney doesn't have that foresight. If anything, he's second fiddle to McCain, who beat him in primaries in 08.

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  Sep 10, 2012 7:06 PM GMT

  I speak for Gomer Pyle, USMC, when I say WELL GOOOLLLEEEEE. SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!

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  Sep 11, 2012 9:47 AM GMT

  dayumm saidI speak for Gomer Pyle, USMC, when I say WELL GOOOLLLEEEEE. SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!

  
  
  I was going to say you are not old enough to know about Gomer Pyle, then checked your profile. Guess you could have older brothers.
  
  Great report.

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  Sep 11, 2012 9:56 AM GMT

  Surely, jsut by studying the effect of allowing LGB soldiers to serve openly in other armies, such as the British Army would have shown the same conclusion?
  
  All it means now is that homosexual service personnel are now out. Homosexuals have always been in the armed forces. My Uncle who was a Hurrican pilot in Africa and then Italy in WW2 said there were two US pilots attached to his squadron, both officers, who were an item and no one cared two hoots about them. My grandfather who was in the Navy said pretty much the same thing about the gay men he encountered.
  
  I've got letters from the Napoleonic, Crimean and FIrst World War from very probably gay men.
  
  Get over it.
  
  Or is the US Army such a special case???!

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  Sep 11, 2012 1:20 PM GMT

  Rowing_Ant saidSurely, jsut by studying the effect of allowing LGB soldiers to serve openly in other armies, such as the British Army would have shown the same conclusion?Yes it would have
  
  
  
  Or is the US Army such a special case???!

  Yes, the republican white bible thumpers just have to have their SS...pure from 'abominations'!

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  Sep 11, 2012 2:48 PM GMT

  They only interviewed 62 people?
  
  And what did those opponents who did respond say?

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  Sep 11, 2012 4:08 PM GMT

  blackhawksfan said

  dayumm saidI speak for Gomer Pyle, USMC, when I say WELL GOOOLLLEEEEE. SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!

  
  
  I was going to say you are not old enough to know about Gomer Pyle, then checked your profile. Guess you could have older brothers.
  
  Great report.

  
  
  Nope, no older bros. But plenty of afternoon reruns on UHF TV back in da day!

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  Sep 11, 2012 10:15 PM GMT

  Caslon20000 saidThey only interviewed 62 people?
  
  And what did those opponents who did respond say?

  
  
  The link to the study is available here:
  [url]http://www.palmcenter.org/files/One%20Year%20Out_0.pdf[/url]
  If there was an obvious, immediate negative impact, I don't think those opposed would have been quiet.
  
  Gregory (Scotland Yard detective): "Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
  Holmes: "To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time."
  Gregory: "The dog did nothing in the night-time."
  Holmes: "That was the curious incident."

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  Sep 20, 2012 3:56 PM GMT

  
  
  
  "Today we celebrate the one-year anniversary of the implementation of DADT repeal after a long, hard road - though we know that we still have miles to go before *everyone* can fully and openly serve. We will not be able to fully celebrate until trans service members are able to be 100% open and honest while they serve..."
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  Sep 20, 2012 4:01 PM GMT

  
  Op-ed: Why I Can't Stop Fighting
  Lt. Dan Choi is on trial for how he protested the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy and wishes for a day when he no longer needs to be political.
  
  
  http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2012/09/20/dan-choi-why-he-wants-quit-fighting-just-cannot

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  Sep 20, 2012 4:49 PM GMT

  Unless you count all the conservative eating their words and choking on them as a negative...

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