The Blame Game. Who and how do you think the Repubs will blame after their loss in November?

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    Sep 11, 2012 1:55 AM GMT
    I think they will blame :

    the interminable debate process...exposed faults and drove the party too far to the right

    and the selection of Ryan...his budget killed their chances
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 11, 2012 1:59 AM GMT
    They'll just blame the middle class. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 11, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    I hope that the Repubs will do a lot of soul searching after this election.
    I hope they'll carefully examine what they've done wrong - and brainstorm for new ideas and ways to improve their agenda and policies.
    I hope they'll embrace humility and focus on striving to serve the interests of average Americans rather on selfishly seeking financial gain and power for their party.

    I don't expect them to do any of those things however.
    Unfortunately I expect the Repubs to continue to show a pig-headed arrogant refusal to admit having done anything wrong.

    And I expect to see the GOP become bitterly divided between Repubs who want to move back to the middle with a more moderate agenda - and Repubs who want to move further to the far right with an extreme and inflexible hard right Tea Party ideology.

    It should make for a fascinating and entertaining show.
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    Sep 11, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    Please don't count your chickens before they're hatched. Yes, if the election were held today, Obama would win. But the election is still two months away. A lot can happen between now and then. This is no time to get complacent. It's important to continue to donate to the Obama campaign and get the vote out especially in swing states.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 11, 2012 3:05 AM GMT
    Yeah, let's not spike the football at the 50 yard line.
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    Sep 11, 2012 3:10 AM GMT
    Yes - there's a thin line between being confident and amped and looking forward to VOTING - and thinking that it's already in the bag.
    We need to choose the former.

    But hammering the Repubs with the reality that they're going to lose is helpful.
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  • HottJoe

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    Sep 11, 2012 3:15 AM GMT
    I expect Obama's lead to grow after the debates. Having seen them both in action, it's clear that Obama has the edge when it comes to policy, experience and personality. It's his to lose, but he won't lose. Obama is going to mop the floor with Romney in November.icon_biggrin.gif
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 11, 2012 4:08 AM GMT
    The GOP learned exactly zero from their massive defeat with McCain/Palin.
    Instead of trying to appeal to larger numbers of voters (yes, that's how you win elections) the party lurched much farther to the right. As a result, the party is even farther outside of the mainstream now than they were in 2008. Their attacks on women, Latinos, and gay people are much uglier this year than in the past.
    So I think they will probably learn nothing from Romney's likely defeat. They will blame Romney, of course, claiming he was never a true conservative and didn't stand for anything. (Which is mostly true, but begs the question of why the GOP nominated him.)
    I think the current GOP base is too poisoned with bigotry and reactionary views -- nothing will change their minds, including multiple losses.
    The party will have to wait a couple of decades for the hard-core haters to die off. Then they can start to move back to the middle.
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    Sep 11, 2012 4:28 AM GMT
    It's bin Laden's fault. Why did he have to be found and killed at a most politically inopportune time for the Republicans?
    Speaking of whom,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 11, 2012 4:32 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidI find all this "in the bag" talk really scary.....it's the kinda thing that causes people to think "I'm sick/busy/tired....I don't need to vote, this thing is a done deal even without me." And then it's close, and the Republican lawyers get involved, and there's recounts, and suddenly we're all wondering who the fuck Chad is and how did hanging him fuck-up the entire country (and the world.) icon_neutral.gif


    Actually, I think you're reading it all wrong. Democrats aren't showing apathy. We're showing backbone, and it's long overdue. I think it comes from two things. One, the republican party disenfranchised minorities and women, and Obama represents a win for equality for everyone, which is such a powerful message. Two, the republicans entered us into two wars, but betrayed us by lying about the real reason for warring with Iraq. It's been the democrats who've given us any feeling of success in war, despite us being pacifists relatively. Democrats want to return this country to peaceful times and prosperity, or at least try for those goals, and republicans want to take the money and run. This "in the bag" talk isn't arrogance. It's a rally cry to get Obama reelected so we can move this country forward.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 11, 2012 7:23 AM GMT
    RickRick91 saidI hope that the Repubs will do a lot of soul searching after this election.
    I hope they'll carefully examine what they've done wrong - and brainstorm for new ideas and ways to improve their agenda and policies.
    I hope they'll embrace humility and focus on striving to serve the interests of average Americans rather on selfishly seeking financial gain and power for their party.

    I don't expect them to do any of those things however.
    Unfortunately I expect the Repubs to continue to show a pig-headed arrogant refusal to admit having done anything wrong.

    And I expect to see the GOP become bitterly divided between Repubs who want to move back to the middle with a more moderate agenda - and Repubs who want to move further to the far right with an extreme and inflexible hard right Tea Party ideology.

    It should make for a fascinating and entertaining show.




    Dream on, my friend.
    When they lose, they'll regroup and try to think of some new lies, scare tactics, and dirty tricks to fool the electorate into voting for them.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 11, 2012 7:24 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI expect Obama's lead to grow after the debates. Having seen them both in action, it's clear that Obama has the edge when it comes to policy, experience and personality. It's his to lose, but he won't lose. Obama is going to mop the floor with Romney in November.icon_biggrin.gif



    I really do think that you're 100% correct.
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    Sep 11, 2012 8:47 AM GMT
    Who do you think the Democrats will blame if Obama Bankrupts America?
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    Sep 11, 2012 10:32 AM GMT
    Doesn't anyone ever consider the possibilty that their side could lose many, if not most of the important elections coming up? I admire optimism, but one must be realistic. The struggles of either side, right or wrong, will not be over after election day.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 11, 2012 11:55 AM GMT
    The only person to blame will be Romney himself.... and the process in his selection. I'm surprised the baffoon has made it this far!

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    Sep 11, 2012 12:00 PM GMT
    The problem for the Republicans is twofold.

    First, they have allowed - through redistricting and primary fights - the most lunatic fringe of their party to take over the entire party. In order to appease this group, they have had to lurch farther and farther to the right. Romney, despite having no discernible principles, was able to outspend all of his primary opponents into oblivion thereby ensuring the he would win despite his not being even a moderately capable politician.

    Second, the Republicans are facing demographic extinction. In order to appease the far right and try to win a national election by firing up their base and suppressing the Obama vote, they have taken measures (or tried to) that have pissed off women, minorities, gays, etc., which make up a larger and larger portion of the electorate.

    Through their own hand, the GOP is facing demographic extinction. They could have run a very different race this year and tried to reach out beyond their base but the base won't let them.

  • Laurence

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    Sep 11, 2012 12:05 PM GMT
    Let's not forget that the Repubs will try every dirty trick in the book to win the election - including vote rigging/ miscounting/ rule bending.

    Mitt Romney is a dreadful un-inspiring candidate representing a really ugly mean minded party.

    Let's hope voters turn out and support Obama - let him finish cleaning up Bush's mess.

    Loz
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    Sep 11, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI expect Obama's lead to grow after the debates. Having seen them both in action, it's clear that Obama has the edge when it comes to policy, experience and personality. It's his to lose, but he won't lose. Obama is going to mop the floor with Romney in November.icon_biggrin.gif

    I agree. And it's not like Obama has to do much. The Dems have an inclusionary message. Romney's positions alienate one voter group after another. He going to look terrible in a debate with a Democrat.
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    Sep 11, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
    Lets not celebrate victory before all 4 quarters have been played. Its just halftime and the Romney camp may make some adjustments and be a second half team. The Dems need to continue to define this election as a choice between the failed GOP policies of the past and moving forward into the future with progressive ideas. Keep exposing the Romney camp's weaknesses and apply insurmountable pressure on the Repubs to present substantive solutions and inevitably kill the will of the GOP.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 11, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    Should the election end up going to Romney, I can only imagine the conspiracy theories that will be flying every which way but loose...."They bought the election"...."The American People Are Idiots"....yes, "The Blame Game" will be endless. Suffice to say that absolutely no one should be feeling to confident at this point.
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    Sep 11, 2012 2:56 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShould the election end up going to Romney, I can only imagine the conspiracy theories that will be flying every which way but loose...."They bought the election"...."The American People Are Idiots"....yes, "The Blame Game" will be endless. Suffice to say that absolutely no one should be feeling to confident at this point.


    The GOP is trying to buy the election. They can still succeed with a carefuly planned swift boat ad or barrage of confusing, fear mongering, misinformation ads. However, the Obama administration learned its lesson from the healthcare debate by letting the GOP control the message. Wont happen again
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    Sep 11, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShould the election end up going to Romney, I can only imagine the conspiracy theories that will be flying every which way but loose...."They bought the election"...."The American People Are Idiots"....yes, "The Blame Game" will be endless. Suffice to say that absolutely no one should be feeling to confident at this point.


    How are "They bought the election"...."The American People Are Idiots" examples of conspiracies?
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    Sep 12, 2012 12:45 AM GMT
    Oh look! Caslon was positively prescient with this thread. It's started already...


    KNIVES COME OUT 2 MONTHS EARLY

    "Mitt Romney and his team will be hit with a merciless barrage of friendly fire in the days after the November election if the presidential race continues its current trajectory and the carping from GOP analysts and strategists the past week is any guide.

    "This is a gimme election, or at least it should be," said conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham on Monday. "If you can't beat Barack Obama with this record, then shut down the party. Shut it down. Start new, with new people."

    Neither the conservative commentariat nor the base for which it sometimes speaks has ever been enamored of Romney, but the man who could hardly break 25 percent during primary season was chosen as the vehicle to drive Obama from office. With polls moving in the president's direction, the Romney campaign continuing to stumble, and Obama outraising Romney for the first time in months, conservatives are wondering if the lemon they bought is enough to finish the race. ..."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/mitt-romney-critics_n_1874573.html?ir=Media
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 12, 2012 1:13 AM GMT
    One reason that Republicans are completely justified to be angry at Romney is that someone with his shady financial history has no business running for president in the first place. Obviously he can't release his taxes because of his unethical and possibly illegal tax-dodging schemes. He should have let someone have the nomination who doesn't have so much shameful behavior he has to hide.