This is for all you young men, who I am intensely proud of and have great faith in. I'd be the bald guy.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 4:50 PM GMT


    ...and I'll add, if enough guys believe, it's true.


    *coming to terms with this new chapter in my life*

    -Doug
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    What?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 saidWhat?


    HE SAID "THIS IS FOR ALL YOU YOUNG MEN, WHO I AM INTENSELY PROUD OF AND HAVE GREAT FAITH IN. I'D BE THE BALD GUY."


    This movie was fantastic by the way. It's been a while since I've seen it and I didn't remember this bit from it. Thanks for posting, Doug icon_biggrin.gif
  • AMoonHawk

    Posts: 11406

    Sep 11, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    That old guy is full of crap ... filling kids heads with a bunch delusional malarchy.People are basically evil at their core .... and why is that? Because basically they are nothing more then carbon base animals who's core is still based on animal instincts of survival. Oh sure you will find a few good ones here and there, but out of 7 billion, that count is going to be pretty small. If people were really so good they would worry more about the world they are destroying around them and spend all their efforts on bring down those that are destroying the world, but instead they elevate them to levels of superiority.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    JumpMan_Josh said
    Caslon20000 saidWhat?


    HE SAID "THIS IS FOR ALL YOU YOUNG MEN, WHO I AM INTENSELY PROUD OF AND HAVE GREAT FAITH IN. I'D BE THE BALD GUY."


    This movie was fantastic by the way. It's been a while since I've seen it and I didn't remember this bit from it. Thanks for posting, Doug icon_biggrin.gif

    THIS DIDN'T HELP.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
    People are bastard-covered bastards with bastard filling.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidThat old guy is full of crap ... filling kids heads with a bunch delusional malarchy.People are basically evil at their core .... and why is that? Because basically they are nothing more then carbon base animals who's core is still based on animal instincts of survival. Oh sure you will find a few good ones here and there, but out of 7 billion, that count is going to be pretty small. If people were really so good they would worry more about the world they are destroying around them and spend all their efforts on bring down those that are destroying the world, but instead they elevate them to levels of superiority.


    Glass half empty? While there might be validity to the critique, I don't know if just those colors paint an accurate picture.

    Is it that most people are bad, or that some bad people are skilled at taking advantage of cracks in good people? Or even that different people have different ideas about what is good?

    Is it that consumerism is destroying a world which the majority of the population doesn't care about, or is it the momentum of progress which unknowingly headed in a direction that turned out to be destructive?

    Florida used to have seals on its beaches before the Native American population decimated them as a food source, before they understood their ecology. So would it be acceptable to say those tribes were horrible people?

    Also, for how long are animals dependent upon each other before they even have the chance to survive on their own?

    http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/animals/news-big-animal-babies
    "Unlike the land animal males we have seen, beluga males mature faster than the females at between 4 to 7 years; the females between the ages of 6 and 9 years"

    http://www.neatorama.com/2011/05/07/the-8-best-mothers-in-the-animal-kingdom/
    "Female orangutans have to wait eight years between births...Even as they mature, they continue to stick close to mother and even breastfeed until they are five years old –making them the species with the longest dependence period."

    And what of human babies? What of the gay ones? Why, most of them don't become independent of their mothers until at least their mid-30s.

    Isn't socializing, caring for eachother kind of imprinted? When does human society work best, when not working with and for eachother? What behavior, patterns of thought are in the best interest of the survival of individuals? Which would be more natural?

    Another poster, don't recall who, posted this on a past thread:
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    I think people are capable of both being good, and evil, and a lot of both at the same time. What makes someone different and others ignorant is what ultimately sets the grounds for right and wrong, good and bad in peoples minds. The only good I choose to have as a guideline myself is how much good intent is there behind the context in question?
    IMHO* Anyone is capable of being a hero or a villain; if they're aware of it, or not.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:31 PM GMT


    I was the one that posted that vid about homo-empathicus, which I think I posted more than once, Theantijock. icon_wink.gif

    Sedative, one of the young guys that doesn't post here anymore (but is a friend on facebook), posted it on facebook which is how I found it about 4 years ago.







  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:33 PM GMT





    Here's the transcript of Uncle Hub's speech:


    Hub: Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love... true love never dies. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

    Pick and choose whatever you like. The speech is just something to consider.

    -another Second Hand Lion Uncle with the same hairline, lol


  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    meninlove said




    Here's the transcript of Uncle Hub's speech:


    Hub: Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love... true love never dies. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.

    Pick and choose whatever you like. The speech is just something to consider.

    -another Second Hand Lion Uncle with the same hairline, lol

    That's it? Oh, I guess this was for young men.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    lol, what are you asking me here, Caslon?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    meninlove said lol, what are you asking me here, Caslon?

    I just didn't find Uncle Hub's speech very revelatory, that's all. But I'm old...and bald.
    I would add, if you ain't got your health, you ain't got nothing, boy.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 said
    meninlove said lol, what are you asking me here, Caslon?

    I just didn't find Uncle Hub's speech very revelatory, that's all. But I'm old...and bald.


    It's two things: offering a little inspiration and how my mind works and what I believe in, and coming to terms with something I posted in the anonymous topic today.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Caslon20000 said
    meninlove said lol, what are you asking me here, Caslon?

    I just didn't find Uncle Hub's speech very revelatory, that's all. But I'm old...and bald.


    It's two things: offering a little inspiration and how my mind works and what I believe in, and coming to terms with something I posted in the anonymous topic today.

    You dumped Bill? I don't read the anonymous thread.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    I was the one that posted that vid about homo-empathicus, which I think I posted more than once, Theantijock. icon_wink.gif

    Sedative, one of the young guys that doesn't post here anymore (but is a friend on facebook), posted it on facebook which is how I found it about 4 years ago.
    .

    Oh, how funny then that I should repost it to your current thread. I recall Sedative as well.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 said
    meninlove said
    Caslon20000 said
    meninlove said lol, what are you asking me here, Caslon?

    I just didn't find Uncle Hub's speech very revelatory, that's all. But I'm old...and bald.


    It's two things: offering a little inspiration and how my mind works and what I believe in, and coming to terms with something I posted in the anonymous topic today.

    You dumped Bill? I don't read the anonymous thread.


    Nope.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 9:18 PM GMT
    Bill dumped you.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 9:21 PM GMT
    Caslon20000 saidBill dumped you.


    Nope.
  • HottJoe

    Posts: 21366

    Sep 11, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
    ^^^^^
    You adopted Trollileo????
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    Perhaps Trollileos latest visit had a profound effect!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 10:32 PM GMT
    HottJoe said^^^^^
    You adopted Trollileo????
    tumblr_m8v8y07l7c1re2hy1o1_250.gif
  • AMoonHawk

    Posts: 11406

    Sep 11, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    AMoonHawk saidThat old guy is full of crap ... filling kids heads with a bunch delusional malarchy.People are basically evil at their core .... and why is that? Because basically they are nothing more then carbon base animals who's core is still based on animal instincts of survival. Oh sure you will find a few good ones here and there, but out of 7 billion, that count is going to be pretty small. If people were really so good they would worry more about the world they are destroying around them and spend all their efforts on bring down those that are destroying the world, but instead they elevate them to levels of superiority.


    Glass half empty? While there might be validity to the critique, I don't know if just those colors paint an accurate picture.

    Is it that most people are bad, or that some bad people are skilled at taking advantage of cracks in good people? Or even that different people have different ideas about what is good?

    Is it that consumerism is destroying a world which the majority of the population doesn't care about, or is it the momentum of progress which unknowingly headed in a direction that turned out to be destructive?

    Florida used to have seals on its beaches before the Native American population decimated them as a food source, before they understood their ecology. So would it be acceptable to say those tribes were horrible people?

    Also, for how long are animals dependent upon each other before they even have the chance to survive on their own?

    http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/animals/news-big-animal-babies
    "Unlike the land animal males we have seen, beluga males mature faster than the females at between 4 to 7 years; the females between the ages of 6 and 9 years"

    http://www.neatorama.com/2011/05/07/the-8-best-mothers-in-the-animal-kingdom/
    "Female orangutans have to wait eight years between births...Even as they mature, they continue to stick close to mother and even breastfeed until they are five years old –making them the species with the longest dependence period."

    And what of human babies? What of the gay ones? Why, most of them don't become independent of their mothers until at least their mid-30s.

    Isn't socializing, caring for eachother kind of imprinted? When does human society work best, when not working with and for eachother? What behavior, patterns of thought are in the best interest of the survival of individuals? Which would be more natural?

    Another poster, don't recall who, posted this on a past thread:


    Hunny ... I was independant from my mother (and father) by the time I was 14 and I moved out at 17 without approval and lived on my own ever since.
    And are you seriously going to blame Native Americans for wiping out a seal population in Florida without any actual proof. How do you know that a hurricane didn't wipe them out. And we know for a fact that the white men wiped out the buffalo and nearly wiped out the American Indian along with them. When the white men first came to what is now the USA, it was covered in forests, now they mostly gone. There was actually gold flowing in the rivers .... Gone. Clean Air ... Gone ... Clean Water ... Gone.

    Come on, admit it, man the MOST destructive animal on the face of the planet and with enough time, he will destroy himself and leave nothing but a dead planet.

    Not only is man killing this planet, but he does evil against his own brother. Is it some sort of territorial thing or survival instinct or some sort of display of superiority? Probably. But that does not do a very good job of explaining, child abuse, theft, rape, murder, child molestation, slavery, etc. etc. etc. ... No. Man is just about as fucking evil as they come.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 11, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    ...and I'll add, if enough guys believe, it's true.


    *coming to terms with this new chapter in my life*

    -Doug


    I've never seen this movie but I agree with the speech. icon_smile.gif Rest all damned.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 12, 2012 4:58 AM GMT


    A message a couple of days ago from my 16 year old niece and my god-daughter and who we are designated legal guardians of, to a site condemning gays:

    "What does science say? How could the way you feel about someone have anything to do with science? I know people that are gay & I think there's nothing wrong with it I know nothing's wrong with it! How would you feel if you loved someone & people told you you can't be with that person that you have to be like everyone else. People should have the freedom to be with whom ever they want to be with wether two guys or two girls! I have gay uncles & they love each other & are now married they love each other just as much as my parents love each other. Their so happy together & don't care what others say or think of them their just happy together I'm not ashamed to say my uncles are gay I'm proud to say that it I was brought up knowing there's nothing wrong with beig gay lesbian or bisexual! Everyone's created equal if it was truly wrong & horrible would people feel this way? You were born that way."

    -Doug