ROMNEYS FOREIGN POLICY INEPTITUDE: THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN

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    Sep 13, 2012 1:21 PM GMT
    Romneys recent foreign policy gaffe regarding Libya has shocked political leaders on both sides of the aisle with its reckless irresponsibility. Its the 2nd foreign relations gaffe in the last few months.

    It has long been considered proper protocol to unify behind current leadership in a unified non partisan stance during international crisis. Romney has elected to shoot from the hip and politicize an dangerous unfolding situation with lives lost and lives at stake.

    Is this the mail in the coffin for Romney prez bid?
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    Sep 13, 2012 1:28 PM GMT
    The more that Willard Romeny reveals his "true self"; the more the re-election of President Obama becomes a "No-Brainer".
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    Sep 13, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
    rnch saidThe more that Willard Romeny reveals his "true self"; the more the re-election of President Obama becomes a "No-Brainer".


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    Sep 13, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
    I'm not surprised at the critics, they weren't voting for Romney anyway. However, to those who are looking at Romney, I don't see this as a problem at all --- it may even be a positive. Yes, perhaps some toes were stepped on, but that happens sometimes. Some see this as a gaffe, others do not...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-right_652223.html
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    Sep 13, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    jprichva said

    All Democrats think Romney fucked up royally.

    Wow -- color me surprised about that icon_rolleyes.gif

    A large number of Republicans think so too.

    True

    How is this a 50-50 proposition?

    Where did I say it was?
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    Sep 13, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    jprichva saidAll Democrats think Romney fucked up royally.
    A large number of Republicans think so too.

    How is this a 50-50 proposition?

    Don't forget the media, which is not all liberal like the Right likes to pretend, to disguise their own subversive media takeover in the last several decades. Romney is being pounded in the press over this, with only the most extreme Right Wingers having anything positive to say about him.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI'm not surprised at the critics, they weren't voting for Romney anyway. However, to those who are looking at Romney, I don't see this as a problem at all --- it may even be a positive. Yes, perhaps some toes were stepped on, but that happens sometimes. Some see this as a gaffe, others do not...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-right_652223.html

    I know you get high sniffing your rose-colored glasses, but this is absurd.

    All Democrats think Romney fucked up royally.
    A large number of Republicans think so too.

    How is this a 50-50 proposition?




    "there are none so blind as those who wil not see".




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    Sep 13, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    There is NOTHING Romney can do that would cause lunatic Americans not to vote for him, unfortunately. He could say he's glad for 9/11, and Republicans would still vote for him. He could turn into a pile of shit (for real) and Republicans will still vote for him. He could come clean and say he's never paid taxes, cheated the system, hid his money, took candy from children, pushed grandmothers in front of cars, treated dogs cruely (wait, he did that), bullied (oh did that too) and Republicans would still vote for him.

    The election will be decided by how many Democrats vote. And it's going to take all of them.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidThere is NOTHING Romney can do that would cause lunatic Americans not to vote for him, unfortunately. He could say he's glad for 9/11, and Republicans would still vote for him. He could turn into a pile of shit (for real) and Republicans will still vote for him. He could come clean and say he's never paid taxes, cheated the system, hid his money, took candy from children, pushed grandmothers in front of cars, treated dogs cruely (wait, he did that), bullied (oh did that too) and Republicans would still vote for him.

    The election will be decided by how many Democrats vote. And it's going to take all of them.


    Dont forget independents. They will decide this election. And Romney is consistently turning independents against him.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    Dont forget independents. They will decide this election. And Romney is consistently turning independents against him.


    That would be an opinion that you may learn is considerably wrong.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said[Romney] could come clean and say he's never paid taxes, cheated the system, hid his money, took candy from children, pushed grandmothers in front of cars, treated dogs cruely (wait, he did that), bullied (oh did that too) and Republicans would still vote for him.

    I LOLed at the "he did that". icon_lol.gif

    Actually, he did most of that list. No wonder Republicans love him. icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    Dont forget independents. They will decide this election. And Romney is consistently turning independents against him.


    That would be an opinion that you may learn is considerably wrong.


    Or you will find is quite correct
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidRomney is being pounded in the press over this, with only the most extreme Right Wingers having anything positive to say about him.


    Actually, he isn't being pounded by everybody in the press. Some do think his message was appropriate even if they might question the timing. It should also be noted that even extreme Right Winger Tony Perkins questioned the timing and/or tone of Romney's comments. Criticism, when it plays out over The Bigger Picture, isn't always a bad thing. In this case, Romney can, and probably will, seize the moment to continue voicing his Foreign Policy plan to the American voters. Whether that will ultimately prove a good thing or not to his campaign remains to be seen. I happen to think it could ultimately prove a good thing.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
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    ART_DECO saidRomney is being pounded in the press over this, with only the most extreme Right Wingers having anything positive to say about him.


    Actually, he isn't being pounded by everybody in the press. Some do think his message was appropriate even if they might question the timing. It should also be noted that even extreme Right Winger Tony Perkins questioned the timing and/or tone of Romney's comments. Criticism, when it plays out over The Bigger Picture, isn't always a bad thing. In this case, Romney can, and probably will, seize the moment to continue voicing his Foreign Policy plan to the American voters. Whether that will ultimately prove a good thing or not to his campaign remains to be seen. I happen to think it could ultimately prove a good thing.



    So what u are saying is Romney is off message, facing criticism from both sides, and facing questions regarding his suitability to become prez within his own party. Sounds like hes facing a battle he cant win.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
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    So what u are saying is Romney is off message, facing criticism from both sides, and facing questions regarding his suitability to become prez within his own party. Sounds like hes facing a battle he cant win.


    Not saying anything of the kind. Is he being criticized? Obviously. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Remains to be seen. This all needs to play out. I absolutely disagree 100% that Romney is "off message", in fact, it's exactly the opposite. He IS right on message. Did you watch his press conference yesterday? He gave a 3 point plan as to how he would look at Foreign Policy in a Romney administration, and he was focused like a laser beam on it. I hope he stays that way. He seized the moment (a bold but risky move that , obviously, is being criticized) and I hope he stays out front on this and other foreign policy issues going into the debates and headed toward the election. Many people agree with his message, even if they may have questioned the timing. So some toes got stepped on --- too bad.
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
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    catfish5 said

    So what u are saying is Romney is off message, facing criticism from both sides, and facing questions regarding his suitability to become prez within his own party. Sounds like hes facing a battle he cant win.


    Not saying anything of the kind. Is he being criticized? Obviously. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Remains to be seen. This all needs to play out. I absolutely disagree 100% that Romney is "off message", in fact, it's exactly the opposite. He IS right on message. Did you watch his press conference yesterday? He gave a 3 point plan as to how he would look at Foreign Policy in a Romney administration, and he was focused like a laser beam on it. I hope he stays that way. He seized the moment (a bold but risky move that , obviously, is being criticized) and I hope he stay out front on this and other foreign policy issues going into the debates and headed toward the election. Many people agree with his message, even if they may have questioned the timing.


    Obama is overwhelming seen by the public as the candidate most capable of addressing foreign policy issues. Romneys strategy has been to make the election a vote on the economy. Hes way off message and playing into Obama strengths. Its like Romney is running the option against a competing football team whose defense hasnt given up many yards on the ground. Very foolish!
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    Sep 13, 2012 3:03 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    Obama is overwhelming seen by the public as the candidate most capable of addressing foreign policy issues.


    That's an opinion I don't particularly share. We don't really know for sure what "The Public" thinks, so quit acting as if you're the spokesperson for them.
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    catfish5 said
    Obama is overwhelming seen by the public as the candidate most capable of addressing foreign policy issues.


    That's an opinion I don't particularly share. We don't really know for sure what "The Public" thinks, so quit acting as if you're the spokesperson for them.


    The polls show Overwhelming confidence in Obamas ability to handle foreign affairs. Although polls dont indicate what will happen on election day, they are a snapshot in time regarding the general mood of the country.
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    Sep 13, 2012 4:33 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidAlthough polls dont indicate what will happen on election day, they are a snapshot in time regarding the general mood of the country.


    Often-times proven incredibly inaccurate. Don't take MY word for it...ask Governor Scott Walker...

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/poll-shows-scott-walker-in-trouble-against-dems-in-recall.php
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    wrestlervic saidThere is NOTHING Romney can do that would cause lunatic Americans not to vote for him, unfortunately. He could say he's glad for 9/11, and Republicans would still vote for him. He could turn into a pile of shit (for real) and Republicans will still vote for him. He could come clean and say he's never paid taxes, cheated the system, hid his money, took candy from children, pushed grandmothers in front of cars, treated dogs cruely (wait, he did that), bullied (oh did that too) and Republicans would still vote for him.

    The election will be decided by how many Democrats vote. And it's going to take all of them.
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    catfish5 saidAlthough polls dont indicate what will happen on election day, they are a snapshot in time regarding the general mood of the country.


    Often-times proven incredibly inaccurate. Don't take MY word for it...ask Governor Scott Walker...

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/poll-shows-scott-walker-in-trouble-against-dems-in-recall.php


    Pay attention!! Polls are a snapshot in time. Represent the general mood of the country for a specific moment. Not indicative of what will happen on election day.
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    catfish5 said
    Obama is overwhelming seen by the public as the candidate most capable of addressing foreign policy issues.


    That's an opinion I don't particularly share. We don't really know for sure what "The Public" thinks, so quit acting as if you're the spokesperson for them.





    Nobody gives a shit what your opinion is, CJAZ.
    You're infamous for being wrong time after time.
    You've consistently proven that you're a brainwashed knee jerk Repub partisan who spouts total nonsense.
    You have zero credibility.

    The fact is that the polls show clearly that President Obama is trusted more than Romney on foreign policy matters.
    For you to try to deny that reality is laughably delusional.

    Romney made a jackass of himself with his press conference.
    His smirking self-satisfied mug was absolutely repulsive.

    ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9-11 - after promising to refrain from partisan attacks on that day - Romney politicized the deaths of US citizens with a false and inflammatory attack on the president.
    And the following day - after the falseness of his base and baseless attack was made abundantly clear - instead of correcting his mistake - Romney gave a press conference and doubled down on his dishonest and unpatriotic smear of the president.
    The POTUS hadn't even spoken publicly about the attacks - but Romney in an act of supreme and selfish arrogance rushed to try to politicize a tragedy with his press conference of lies.

    There are no words sufficient to describe how epically unfit for the presidency Romney is.