Kansas Republican Secretary of State trying to get Obama's name removed from the ballot

  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 15, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    This is the Tea Party / Republican's idea of democracy: a ballot with one name on it. Can you guess which name?
    The gall of removing the sitting President from the election ballot is really mind boggling.
    So nice to see the election-stealing efforts are in full gear again this year.

    Kansas Goes Birther: State Board Considers Removing Obama From Ballot
    Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, an informal advisor to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, said on Thursday he and his fellow members of a state board were considering removing President Barack Obama from the Kansas ballot this November.

    Kobach is part of the State Objections Board along with Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer, all Republicans. The Topeka Capital-Journal reported that on Thursday the board agreed to consider whether to take Obama off the ballot because they said they lacked sufficient evidence about his birth certificate.

    “I don’t think it’s a frivolous objection,” Kobach said, according to the Capital-Journal. “I do think the factual record could be supplemented.”

    The board is looking at a complaint filed by Joe Montgomery, of Manhattan, Kan., who claimed the Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and so is ineligible to be president. The man appears to be part of a group of conspiracy theorists known as “birthers,” who deny Obama’s birth certificate is real.

    Late Thursday, Kobach told TPM in an email conversation that he made his “frivolous objection” comment at the end of the meeting and was responding to a specific question.

    “A ‘frivolous’ argument, in legal terms, is one that cannot reasonably be made under any circumstances,” Kobach wrote. “The objection passed that very low threshold, which is not saying much.”

    The board will send records requests to Hawaii, Arizona and Mississippi for more documentation of Obama’s birth. They plan to meet again on Monday to discuss the matter. Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett questioned Obama’s birth certificate earlier this year and also briefly considered removing him from the ballot.

    Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in 2011, but conspiracy theories about his place of birth have endured. The certificate shows he was born in 1961 in Hawaii. His mother was a native of Kansas.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/kansas_birther_kris_kobach.php


  • Webster666

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    Sep 15, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    I'm sure the Obama campaign is losing ZERO sleep over a permanently RED STATE, talking about removing our President's name from the Kansas State ballot, especially since their issue is that they are still beating that same dead horse that claims that our President is not an American citizen.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 15, 2012 2:11 AM GMT
    Let me say, I am DEEPLY embarassed that these f*cking right winger bastards are trying to take Obama's name off the ballot.
    I'll fucking march against it if it becomes a serious consideration.

    I've had enough of this bullshit.

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    Sep 15, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
    Never heard a word about McCain being born in Panama.
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    Sep 15, 2012 2:59 AM GMT
    Caslon21000 saidNever heard a word about McCain being born in Panama.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/john-mccains-presidential-eligibility/
    John McCain’s father was an admiral in the U.S. Navy who was stationed in Panama in 1936, when McCain was born. ...
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    Sep 15, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThis is the Tea Party / Republican's idea of democracy: a ballot with one name on it. Can you guess which name?
    The gall of removing the sitting President from the election ballot is really mind boggling.
    So nice to see the election-stealing efforts are in full gear again this year.

    Kansas Goes Birther: State Board Considers Removing Obama From Ballot
    Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, an informal advisor to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, said on Thursday he and his fellow members of a state board were considering removing President Barack Obama from the Kansas ballot this November.

    Kobach is part of the State Objections Board along with Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer, all Republicans. The Topeka Capital-Journal reported that on Thursday the board agreed to consider whether to take Obama off the ballot because they said they lacked sufficient evidence about his birth certificate.

    “I don’t think it’s a frivolous objection,” Kobach said, according to the Capital-Journal. “I do think the factual record could be supplemented.”

    The board is looking at a complaint filed by Joe Montgomery, of Manhattan, Kan., who claimed the Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and so is ineligible to be president. The man appears to be part of a group of conspiracy theorists known as “birthers,” who deny Obama’s birth certificate is real.

    Late Thursday, Kobach told TPM in an email conversation that he made his “frivolous objection” comment at the end of the meeting and was responding to a specific question.

    “A ‘frivolous’ argument, in legal terms, is one that cannot reasonably be made under any circumstances,” Kobach wrote. “The objection passed that very low threshold, which is not saying much.”

    The board will send records requests to Hawaii, Arizona and Mississippi for more documentation of Obama’s birth. They plan to meet again on Monday to discuss the matter. Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett questioned Obama’s birth certificate earlier this year and also briefly considered removing him from the ballot.

    Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in 2011, but conspiracy theories about his place of birth have endured. The certificate shows he was born in 1961 in Hawaii. His mother was a native of Kansas.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/kansas_birther_kris_kobach.php




    Why is this still an issue??? The State of Hawaii and Bush's State Dept certified that Obama was born in Hawaii. Also, he was born to a US Citizen, so he is a natural born citizen regardless of where he was born. Sheesh.

    P.S. The requirement that a President be a natural born citizen is a federal issue, not something for states to enforce.
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    Sep 15, 2012 3:38 AM GMT
    Caslon21000 saidNever heard a word about McCain being born in Panama.


    He was. Though technically it was a US territory, the Panama Canal Zone, at the time. So he was born in the US. Meanwhile Obama was born in an actual US state, yet McCain never got the grief that Obama has gotten about birth certificates and such.

    Anyway, both McCain and Obama were born to at least one US Citizen, so they were natural born US citizens regardless of where they were born. Yet again, McCain never got the grief that Obama has gotten about birth certificates and such.
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    Sep 15, 2012 10:29 AM GMT
    http://leftaction.com/action/ask-kansas-mitt-romney-unicorn
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    Sep 15, 2012 1:29 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Caslon21000 saidNever heard a word about McCain being born in Panama.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/john-mccains-presidential-eligibility/
    John McCain’s father was an admiral in the U.S. Navy who was stationed in Panama in 1936, when McCain was born. ...


    also by affirmation of the congress

    "McCain, having been born in the (Panama) Canal Zone, if elected would have become the first president who was born outside the current 50 states. This raised a potential legal issue, since the United States Constitution requires the president to be a natural-born citizen of the United States. A bipartisan legal review[213] and a unanimous but non-binding Senate resolution[214] both concluded that he is a natural-born citizen. Also, if inaugurated in 2009 at age 72 years and 144 days, he would have been the oldest U.S. president upon ascension to the presidency,[215] and the second-oldest president to be inaugurated"


    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text
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    Sep 15, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
    I've read that the guy petitioning to remove Obama's name has recinded his petition, so the issue has died.

    Apparently, the backlash has hit his family, friends, and associates. And they have complained to him. He wants people to stop contacting these people.

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 15, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    This seems like something that would be a headline in "The Onion", not something real. The Kansas SOS should be really embarrassed he's such an idiot.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 15, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis seems like something that would be a headline in "The Onion", not something real. The Kansas SOS should be really embarrassed he's such an idiot.


    Wisely said

    +1
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 15, 2012 3:13 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidLet me say, I am DEEPLY embarassed that these f*cking right winger bastards are trying to take Obama's name off the ballot.
    I'll fucking march against it if it becomes a serious consideration.

    I've had enough of this bullshit.

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    I'm glad you're in Kansas!!! They need to see what a real man is.icon_twisted.gif
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    Sep 15, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    Im just surprised it didnt start in Texas first. Texas loves wasting time and money on this kinda shit.
  • HottJoe

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    Sep 15, 2012 5:06 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidIm just surprised it didnt start in Texas first. Texas loves wasting time and money on this kinda shit.


    I heard a pundit say recently that Texas used to be red but is now becoming purple, which is kind of like when a straight person goes bi.... And you know that they say, "bi now, gay later."icon_twisted.gif
  • comfortablynu...

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    Sep 15, 2012 9:18 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    catfish5 saidIm just surprised it didnt start in Texas first. Texas loves wasting time and money on this kinda shit.


    I heard a pundit say recently that Texas used to be red but is now becoming purple, which is kind of like when a straight person goes bi.... And you know that they say, "bi now, gay later."icon_twisted.gif


    Georgia is well on its way to becoming a swing state, as well. The demographics are trending in that direction. The Democrats lack a political machine on a local level, making it more difficult to organize events and get out the vote. If they are able to create one by electing more Democrats on a statewide level though, Republicans could lose their two biggest electoral sure-things. What a happy day that would be.