"...it totally revealed Romney’s character; it revealed him as completely craven and his candidacy as serving no higher purpose than his ambition.”

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    "For Romney, the first blaring sign that his reaction to the assault on the consulate in Benghazi had badly missed the mark was the application of the phrase “Lehman ­moment” to his press availability on the morning of September 12. Here was ­America under attack, with four dead on foreign soil. And here was Romney, defiantly refusing to adopt a tone of sobriety, solemnity, or seriousness, instead attempting to score cheap political points, doubling down on his criticism from the night before that the Obama administration had been “disgraceful” for “sympathiz[ing]” with the attackers—criticism willfully ignoring the chronology of events, the source of the statement he was pillorying, the substance of the statement, and the circumstances under which it was made.

    That the left heaped scorn on Romney’s gambit came as no surprise. But the right reacted almost as harshly—with former aides to John McCain, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan creating an on-the-record chorus of disapproval, while countless other Republican officials and operatives chimed in anonymously. “This is worse than a Lehman moment,” says a senior GOP operative. “­McCain made mistakes of impulsiveness, but this was a deliberate and premeditated move, and it totally revealed Romney’s character; it revealed him as completely craven and his candidacy as serving no higher purpose than his ambition.”

    This bipartisan condemnation would have been bad enough in itself, but its negative effects were amplified because it fed into a broader narrative emerging in the media across the ideological spectrum: that Romney is losing, knows he is losing, and is starting to panic. This story line is, of course, rooted in reality, given that every available data point since the conventions suggests that Obama is indeed, for the first time, opening up a lead outside the margin of ­error nationally and in the battleground states. So the press corps is now on the lookout for signs of desperation in Romney and is finding them aplenty—most vividly in his reaction to Libya, but even before that, in his post-convention appearance on Meet the Press, where he embraced some elements of Obamacare (only to have his campaign walk back his comments later the same day).

    The peril to Romney’s candidacy of being seen through the lens of desperation can’t be overstated. The paramount strategic objective of any campaign is to maintain control of the candidate’s public image—and if the media filter begins to view his every move through a dark or unflattering prism, things can quickly spin out of control, to a point where nothing he says or does is taken at face value. “Romney is in a very bad place,” says another senior Republican strategist. “He’s got the Republican intelligentsia second-guessing him, publicly and privately. The party base has never trusted him and thinks that everything bad it ever thought about him is being borne out now. And he’s got the media believing that he can’t win. He’s right on the edge of a self-­fulfilling downward spiral.”"

    http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/mitt-romney-middle-east-unrest-2012-9/
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    Add John Heilemann to the list of authors who will be eating their words along with a mouth full of crow on election night. Prepare for the sound of collective jaw-dropping on election night.
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    " former aides to John McCain, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan creating an on-the-record chorus of disapproval, while countless other Republican officials and operatives chimed in anonymously.

    “This is worse than a Lehman moment,” says a senior GOP operative. “­McCain made mistakes of impulsiveness, but

    THIS WAS A DELIBERATE AND PREMEDITATED MOVE.....

    .......THAT TOTALLY REVEALED ROMNEY'S CHARACTER" .


    SO, besides a few online sock accounts, Who is supporting Romney now?
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    Balancing said" former aides to John McCain, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan creating an on-the-record chorus of disapproval, while countless other Republican officials and operatives chimed in anonymously.

    “This is worse than a Lehman moment,” says a senior GOP operative. “­McCain made mistakes of impulsiveness, but

    THIS WAS A DELIBERATE AND PREMEDITATED MOVE.....

    .......THAT TOTALLY REVEALED ROMNEY'S CHARACTER" .


    SO, besides a few online sock accounts, Who is supporting Romney now?


    My parents and grandparents, my boss, my bf, three uncles who are all in the miltary, two of my four sisters, our next door neighbors (they even have a Romney sign in their front yard), about half of my friends, and that's just the people I know in Ohio.
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    Madhatter2009 saidMy parents and grandparents, my boss, my bf, three uncles who are all in the miltary, two of my four sisters, our next door neighbors (they even have a Romney sign in their front yard), about half of my friends, and that's just the people I know in Ohio.

    Oh, Ohio...

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    Caslon21000: "...former aides to John McCain, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan creating an on-the-record chorus of disapproval, while countless other Republican officials and operatives chimed in anonymously... This bipartisan condemnation...

    jockfever: As Ben Stein has observed, this is a partisan smokescreen, produced by Obama's lapdog media, to cover for his stupid foreign policy in the Middle East.

    There is no bipartisan condemnation. Where the hell are these "countless other Republican officials?" They're a figment of the feverish imagination of Obama's drones in the media.


    " Romney’s allies rallied to his defense, saying he had rightly pointed out key weaknesses in Obama’s foreign policy, and their ramifications for U.S. security.

    “Romney is right to bring home the weakness of the Obama administration, exemplified in the disgraceful statement issued” by the Egyptian embassy, wrote Weekly Standard columnist Bill Kristol.

    Representative Peter King, a New York Republican who heads the Homeland Security Committee, questioned the timing of Romney’s statement, not its substance.


    In a few days, this fake, manufactured drama will be forgotten, but the foreign policy disaster in the White House will remain, until the Obama administration is swept into the dustbin of history, an event which can't happen soon enough.

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    Sep 15, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    How Ohio goes, goes the election. Romney is going to win Ohio. Start getting comfortable with the sound of "President Elect Willard "Mitt" Romney"
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    Ohio is too unionized to go for Romney.
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    ART_DECO said
    Madhatter2009 saidMy parents and grandparents, my boss, my bf, three uncles who are all in the miltary, two of my four sisters, our next door neighbors (they even have a Romney sign in their front yard), about half of my friends, and that's just the people I know in Ohio.

    Oh, Ohio...

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    LOL
    Yup.

    The state where Obama holds a comfortable lead.
    The state that is a must-win for the Repubs.

    Madhatter is indeed mad as a hatter.
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    I liked that I learned a new word and its meaning,, Craven icon_rolleyes.gif
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    beneful1 saidI liked that I learned a new word and its meaning,, Craven icon_rolleyes.gif


    yeah he wrote and directed nightmare on elm street....a fitting metaphor for a Romney presidency.
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    beneful1 saidI liked that I learned a new word and its meaning,, Craven icon_rolleyes.gif


    yeah he wrote and directed nightmare on elm street....a fitting metaphor for a Romney presidency.




    LOL
    Nice one!
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    The state where Obama holds a comfortable lead.
    The state that is a must-win for the Repubs.

    Madhatter is indeed mad as a hatter.
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    Laugh all you want bitches. Don't say I didn't tell you
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    Sep 16, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
    After what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though
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    CuriousJockAZ saidAfter what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though

    Track this CJAZ. I predict Romney will get his ass handed him on a plate in the debates. The extreme positions that the rad. Right has forced on him and his party will box him in disastrously.
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    Sep 16, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    Caslon21000 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAfter what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though

    Track this CJAZ. I predict Romney will get his ass handed him on a plate in the debates. The extreme positions that the rad. Right has forced on him and his party will box him in disastrously.


    You're probably right, Cas. However, I do think there is potential for Romney to pull an upset depending on how he fares in the debates...and what world events may play in this.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Caslon21000 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAfter what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though

    Track this CJAZ. I predict Romney will get his ass handed him on a plate in the debates. The extreme positions that the rad. Right has forced on him and his party will box him in disastrously.


    You're probably right, Cas. However, I do think there is potential for Romney to pull an upset depending on how he fares in the debates...and what world events may play in this.

    Let's just get thru the debates. Then we can reassess. icon_wink.gif

    But all O has to do is bring up that voucher plan in place of Medicare and Romney will be done. No senior wants a voucher plan. We can see that it's just a ploy by business to get their hands on that money, just like they did in the banking fiasco. No matter what one says about govt, business is worse. Plus I get to vote for my govt. I don't vote for business execs. ...let me go get my guillotine!
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Caslon21000 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAfter what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though

    Track this CJAZ. I predict Romney will get his ass handed him on a plate in the debates. The extreme positions that the rad. Right has forced on him and his party will box him in disastrously.


    You're probably right, Cas. However, I do think there is potential for Romney to pull an upset depending on how he fares in the debates...and what world events may play in this.

    I disagree. In a debate Obama can't hide from his performance both domestically and internationally. Romney is a numbers guy and will be well prepared for the typical arguments such as protecting the rich. Also remember Obama will not have a teleprompter and has made more than his share of stammering and gaffs without the teleprompter. Romney has become debate hardened with all the primaries, and word is Portman is an excellent Obama surrogate in the debate preps.

    The only thing Romney will have to be careful of is not totally humiliating him, which might get a sympathy backlash. Of course anyone can have good day or bad day, but my money is on a decisive Romney debate win.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Caslon21000 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAfter what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though

    Track this CJAZ. I predict Romney will get his ass handed him on a plate in the debates. The extreme positions that the rad. Right has forced on him and his party will box him in disastrously.


    You're probably right, Cas. However, I do think there is potential for Romney to pull an upset depending on how he fares in the debates...and what world events may play in this.

    I disagree. In a debate Obama can't hide from his performance both domestically and internationally. Romney is a numbers guy and will be well prepared for the typical arguments such as protecting the rich. Also remember Obama will not have a teleprompter and has made more than his share of stammering and gaffs without the teleprompter. Romney has become debate hardened with all the primaries, and word is Portman is an excellent Obama surrogate in the debate preps.

    The only thing Romney will have to be careful of is not totally humiliating him, which might get a sympathy backlash. Of course anyone can have good day or bad day, but my money is on a decisive Romney debate win.

    See above for just one sliver of a response. Track this, Social, so we can check back after the debates.
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    Caslon21000 saidSee above for just one sliver of a response. Track this, Social, so we can check back after the debates.

    A few other threads posted here have provided a completely different take than your OP. You might read through some of them if you care to.
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    Caslon21000 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Caslon21000 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAfter what happened in WI where Scott Walker was getting walloped in the polls but he won handily, I suppose anything is possible. Romney will need to step it up pretty significantly in the debates though

    Track this CJAZ. I predict Romney will get his ass handed him on a plate in the debates. The extreme positions that the rad. Right has forced on him and his party will box him in disastrously.


    You're probably right, Cas. However, I do think there is potential for Romney to pull an upset depending on how he fares in the debates...and what world events may play in this.

    Let's just get thru the debates. Then we can reassess. icon_wink.gif

    But all O has to do is bring up that voucher plan in place of Medicare and Romney will be done. No senior wants a voucher plan. We can see that it's just a ploy by business to get their hands on that money, just like they did in the banking fiasco. No matter what one says about govt, business is worse. Plus I get to vote for my govt. I don't vote for business execs. ...let me go get my guillotine!




    Yup.
    On the issues - Americans agree with President Obama.
    The conventions made that perfectly clear - and the debates will as well.
    Romney is on the wrong side of every major issue - and his priorities are the opposite of the priorities that are supported by a majority of Americans.
    That's why Romney's campaign strategy is to lie about what his policy proposals are.
    He has to.

    On Medicare - President Obama will likely point out - as Bill Clinton did - that the $700 billion in wasteful spending that President Obama cut out of Medicare (and that Romney wants to put back in) - has extended the solvency of Medicare by eight years - and saved Medicare from going bankrupt in 2016.

    If Romney got his way and put the $700 billion in waste back in Medicare - the Medicare program would go broke IN FOUR SHORT YEARS.

    When CURRENT seniors are informed that a Romney presidency would mean that Medicare would go broke in four years - they're not going to vote for Mitt.
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    Going broke in 4 years with Romney - so much continual BS, no one will buy that one.

    Does anyone with half a brain think there had been $700 billion in waste that had been there just waiting for Obama to take it?

    The $700 billion that Obama wants to take out of Medicare is not waste, unless you define waste as a committee telling an old lady she is too old for that hip replacement. Sorry, Obama will get crucified on Medicare and Obamacare and the elderly.
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    Sep 16, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
    Madhatter2009 said
    Balancing said" former aides to John McCain, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan creating an on-the-record chorus of disapproval, while countless other Republican officials and operatives chimed in anonymously.

    “This is worse than a Lehman moment,” says a senior GOP operative. “­McCain made mistakes of impulsiveness, but

    THIS WAS A DELIBERATE AND PREMEDITATED MOVE.....

    .......THAT TOTALLY REVEALED ROMNEY'S CHARACTER" .


    SO, besides a few online sock accounts, Who is supporting Romney now?


    My parents and grandparents, my boss, my bf, three uncles who are all in the miltary, two of my four sisters, our next door neighbors (they even have a Romney sign in their front yard), about half of my friends, and that's just the people I know in Ohio.





    Our President is 7 points ahead of Romney, in Ohio.
    Looks like there'll be a lot of glum faces among your family and friends, on election night.
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    Sep 16, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
    Madhatter2009 saidHow Ohio goes, goes the election. Romney is going to win Ohio. Start getting comfortable with the sound of "President Elect Willard "Mitt" Romney"




    Um, it might come as a shock to you but it's, "As MAINE goes, so goes the nation." And, Maine is going to reelect our President, as is Ohio.