Libyan President: 'Completely Unfounded and Preposterous' to Think Attack Was 'Spontaneous Protest

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    Sep 16, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    The spin was most obvious from Jay Carney. Are they so stupid to think we are so dumb to believe the attack resulted from a video on YouTube, and not from the total failure of a naive Obama mid-east policy?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/libyan-president-completely-unfounded-and-preposterous-think-attack-was-spontaneous-protest_652437.html

    Libyan president Mohammed el-Megarif is saying the attack Benghazi that killed the American ambassador was planned well beforehand. His statements on this topic firmly contradict the Obama administration's version of events.

    "The idea that this criminal and cowardly act was a spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous," Megarif says in an interview on NPR. "We firmly believe that this was a precalculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. Consulate."

    The Libyan president added, "The intention was there from the beginning, for it to take this ugly barbaric, criminal form."

    Megarif claims evidence shows that some elements of Ansar al-Sharia, an extremist group in eastern Benghazi, were used as tools by foreign citizens with ties to al-Qaida to attack the consulate and threaten Libya's stability.

    The Libyan account of the horrific events, however, contradicts what American officials are saying.

    “Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” the American ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, said this morning on ABC's This Week.

    “In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated,” Rice said, referring to protests in Egypt Tuesday over a film that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a fraud. Protesters in Cairo breached the walls of the U.S. American Embassy, tearing apart an American flag.

    “We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.”
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    Sep 16, 2012 4:04 PM GMT


    "What we're seeing on that screen is the meltdown, the collapse of the Obama policy on the Muslim world. ...

    These are the fruits of a policy of apology and retreat and a lack of confidence in our own principles."
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    Sep 16, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
    So, what you're saying here is that Mitt Romney's press conference was clearly loaded with the truth. I knew that already, of course, but as events unfold and the facts come to light, it becomes more clear to more people that he may have been on to something. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 16, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSo, what you're saying here is that Mitt Romney's press conference was clearly loaded with the truth. I knew that already, of course, but as events unfold and the facts come to light, it becomes more clear to more people that he may have been on to something. icon_wink.gif

    What Mitt Romney said was obvious truth and reflects what I think most people in the center and on the right believe. The hysterical negative reaction from the media lapdogs resulted from two reasons: 1) Romney took the initiative, while Obama must have been huddled with his political advisors to figure out what to do, and 2) It completely undermined the absurd assertion of the Obama team that he had an effective foreign policy. Furthermore, the media would like to have foreign policy off-limits, but had Romney waited until Obama finally got around to say something, lame as it was, he would have been criticized as being too cautious. The media wanted the hysterical ant-Romney blitz to give Obama cover, and it only worked for a day or so. The only significant dissenting view on the right was that Romney should have waited a bit, but most believe that was unnecessary.
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    Sep 16, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    What's going on in the Middle East is totally internal. They are coming out of their Middle Ages. They will have the strife like that which racked Europe as it shed its religious culture. You are seeing the internal struggle between those that want to maintain the old, absolute religious hegemony and those that want to move into the modern world. The US is just a convenient scapegoat to unite forces against a common, external enemy. There isnt a whole lot of "policy" that can be done when one isnt the instigator, but the foil they will continually use no matter what you do.
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    Sep 16, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
    Caslon21000 saidWhat's going on in the Middle East is totally internal. They are coming out of their Middle Ages. They will have the strife like that which racked Europe as it shed its religious culture. You are seeing the internal struggle between those that want to maintain the old, absolute religious hegemony and those that want to move into the modern world. The US is just a convenient scapegoat to unite forces against a common, external enemy. There isnt a whole lot of "policy" that can be done when one isnt the instigator, but the foil they will continually use no matter what you do.

    Good perspective and I applaud your other thread recommending books to encourage further analysis versus the typical minutia that occurs here.

    That said, the US policy does impact how convenient we let ourselves become scapegoats and the reactions against us. Also note that reports are many Egyptians who are not religious "fanatics" are not anti-US, but their position was eroded by current events. So current policies and current events matter a great deal.
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    Sep 16, 2012 5:10 PM GMT
    and yet the mixed messages from The Obama Administration keep coming...

    http://news.yahoo.com/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated-141127762--abc-news-politics.html
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    Sep 16, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidand yet the mixed messages from The Obama Administration keep coming...

    http://news.yahoo.com/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated-141127762--abc-news-politics.html

    They are a bunch of dishonest amateurs who never even gave lip service to the difference between politics and governance. Expecting a new line of attack from their campaign that everything is Romney's fault, that everything happened because he visited Israel and was friendly with Netanyahu.