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The Final Departure of Catfish?

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Sep 17, 2012 1:40 AM GMT

He had contacted me thinking I was Chris (of the administration), then sought advice about issues with other members... giving me a list of three he apoparently had some issues with today. Something about a problem with you John (Socalfitness) as well previously. Of course, I told him to work it out and to contact the administration directly and ask questions.
He seems to be "misplaced" now, by choice or via the administration.
Unfortunate, but folks, political disagreement doesn't have to be personal.

I absolutely disagree with SoCal and most of our republican friends on most issues, but I have no problem asking for help or discussing a non political issue . I get tired of seeing some of these nasty battles!

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Sep 17, 2012 1:55 AM GMT

Indeed, these pointless political threads that just amount to calling each other names and not truly discussing the issues are ridiculous. I just skip them when they degenerate into that.

I think members should realize they arent going to change the minds of others who are dedicated to an opposing view. It's not like they are going to shout "you're right! you're right! how could I have been blind for so long." Srsly, have a discussion about issues but be good natured enough to let people hold their opposing point of view.

From what I see the most underused tactic in a discussion that is going horribly south is "dont respond." Just cuz someone says something doesnt mean you have to reply. It's not like the other person is winning if you dont strike back. Score one for him. Quite the contrary, if he attacks and you dont respond, it dies. He's left waiting and waiting and waiting for his "scorching" missive to elicit a response and......nothing. How anticlimatic is that? How defeating is that? His scorching missive doesnt even mean enough to get a reply. That's it. It's all over. Toodles! Enjoy having your knickers all in a twist. Dont care what you think. Buh bye.

Socal and CJAZ hold views very different from mine. But we get along pretty well. In fact, we are now just waiting for the debates to show whose predictions are correct. That's gonna kind of make the debates a little more interesting for me.

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Sep 17, 2012 3:15 AM GMT

I would be all for a moratorium on the personal attacks and a real concerted effort to be respectful of any and all opinions even when we don't agree. It really doesn't need to get personal. I'm not sure why Catfish was banned this time, but maybe it was for the better. Both he and TropicalMark seemed to make it particularly nasty and personal. C'mon guys, lets all really do our part to play nice.

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Sep 17, 2012 4:39 AM GMT

It's best to put people who antagonize on Ignore rather than carry on with them. Makes life much more pleasant and things don't get out of hand.

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Sep 17, 2012 6:38 AM GMT

I am not sure why he was banned. AFAIK , i dont care what people do for a living.

However if you call people out personally its reasonable to believe they would also do so in turn.

He implied Madhatter was not paying taxes. The reference was so blatantly ironic on its face, considering what he is alleged to engage in.

So I do not get why he was upset.

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Sep 17, 2012 1:36 PM GMT

[quote][cite]Caslon21000 said

From what I see the most underused tactic in a discussion that is going horribly south is "dont respond." Just cuz someone says something doesnt mean you have to reply. It's not like the other person is winning if you dont strike back. Score one for him. Quite the contrary, if he attacks and you dont respond, it dies. He's left waiting and waiting and waiting for his "scorching" missive to elicit a response and......nothing. How anticlimatic is that? How defeating is that? His scorching missive doesnt even mean enough to get a reply. That's it. It's all over. Toodles! Enjoy having your knickers all in a twist. Dont care what you think. Buh bye.

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I use this underused tactic all the time.

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Sep 17, 2012 2:49 PM GMT

bostonsam saidFrom what I observed Catfish was very abusive to people here if they didn't share his political point of view.

Seems like for every 100 times he would call someone a "traitor to the gay community" or "self-loathing" there would be maybe 1 thing posted that would try and "return fire" if you will.

He clearly is the textbook example of a bully. Yesterday, there was a topic where he started attacking people for "not paying their fair share of taxes" - of course he had no proof of that at all, but he was in attack mode.

So somebody posted that he was a prostitute and they posted the link to his page on the prostitute website (forgot what the site was called). Then when he was pressed about whether he reported his income (which was $150 in call and $1000 for overnight), like a bully finally being stood up to, he went whining to the site admin and kept posting "Reported to admin" which I thought was quite childish.

Nobody was lying about him when they asked him if he reported his prostitute income to the IRS - it was simply a question. And he didn't answer so it's pretty clear that not only was HE not "paying his fair share of taxes" but that he had the gall to accuse OTHERS of not paying their fair share of taxes.

I'm glad he is gone. There are a few others on here that bandy about the "you are a traitor to the gay community" and "you are self-loathing" and I hope the site administrator will delete their accounts as well.

Plus all the socks. We need to get rid of their clutter ASAP.

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Sep 17, 2012 3:10 PM GMT

bostonsam said
So somebody posted that he was a prostitute and they posted the link to his page on the prostitute website (forgot what the site was called). Then when he was pressed about whether he reported his income (which was $150 in call and $1000 for overnight), like a bully finally being stood up to, he went whining to the site admin and kept posting "Reported to admin" which I thought was quite childish.

It's pretty loathsome, degraded, undignified and disgusting that you're writing something like this.

Shame, shame on you for your hypocrisy.

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Sep 17, 2012 3:15 PM GMT

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bostonsam said
So somebody posted that he was a prostitute and they posted the link to his page on the prostitute website (forgot what the site was called). Then when he was pressed about whether he reported his income (which was $150 in call and $1000 for overnight), like a bully finally being stood up to, he went whining to the site admin and kept posting "Reported to admin" which I thought was quite childish.

It's pretty loathsome, degraded, undignified and disgusting that you're writing something like this.

Shame, shame on you for your hypocrisy.

Yup. And it's really pathetic to be banned from a site and keep creating fake accounts to participate.

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Sep 17, 2012 3:37 PM GMT

I hope so. He, Tropical Mark and a couple others are complete turds on forum issues and sad people in general

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Sep 17, 2012 4:38 PM GMT

CuriousJockAZ saidI would be all for a moratorium on the personal attacks and a real concerted effort to be respectful of any and all opinions even when we don't agree. It really doesn't need to get personal. ...C'mon guys, lets all really do our part to play nice.

Following my posting of a news article 3 months ago, when Sen. Portman, one of the contenders for the Republican VP nomination, said there should be no restrictions on firing employees for being gay, you and your buddy southbeach wrote:

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southbeach1500 said
Kolonel KooKoo may have started Friday Happy Hour a bit early today....

True...after all it IS Friday. Earth to the "Light" Colonel Koo-Koo Puffy....there is no "front runner" in the V.P. race. We can't even confirm if Rob Portman is on the short-list.

http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2467574

That personal attack was your way of evading my topic, and the discussion it provoked, that a prominent Republican had proposed such an anti-gay thing, and that other Republicans weren't opposing it, including Romney. I post an article showing unflattering Republican views, so you change the topic to a dispute of who's the VP frontrunner, and throw in a disrespectful personal slam against my former Army rank and a false claim that I'm a drunk and "koo-koo".

Just one of many examples of you hypocritically trying to portray yourself as Mr. Nice Guy while engaging in personal attacks yourself.

BUSTED

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Sep 17, 2012 4:41 PM GMT

bostonsam, TigerTim is no sock account.

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Sep 17, 2012 4:45 PM GMT

ART_DECO said
CuriousJockAZ saidI would be all for a moratorium on the personal attacks and a real concerted effort to be respectful of any and all opinions even when we don't agree. It really doesn't need to get personal. ...C'mon guys, lets all really do our part to play nice.

Following my posting of a news article 3 months ago, when Sen. Portman, one of the contenders for the Republican VP nomination, said there should be no restrictions on firing employees for being gay, you and your buddy southbeach wrote:

CuriousJockAZ said
southbeach1500 said
Kolonel KooKoo may have started Friday Happy Hour a bit early today....

True...after all it IS Friday. Earth to the "Light" Colonel Koo-Koo Puffy....there is no "front runner" in the V.P. race. We can't even confirm if Rob Portman is on the short-list.

http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2467574

That personal attack was your way of evading my topic, and the discussion it provoked, that a prominent Republican had proposed such an anti-gay thing, and that other Republicans weren't opposing it, including Romney. I post an article showing unflattering Republican views, so you change the topic to a dispute of who's the VP frontrunner, and throw in a disrespectful personal slam against my former Army rank and a false claim that I'm a drunk and "koo-koo".

Just one of many examples of you hypocritically trying to portray yourself as Mr. Nice Guy while engaging in personal attacks yourself.

BUSTED

Still trying to save face from your fiasco the other night? You should be ashamed of yourself--To think you were a COLONEL? I wonder?

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Sep 17, 2012 4:50 PM GMT

meninlove said bostonsam, TigerTim is no sock account.

Definitely not. The real socks, however, are very evident. Posing as a non-existent person is one thing, but stealing someone's personal photographs is pretty despicable.

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Sep 17, 2012 4:55 PM GMT

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meninlove said bostonsam, TigerTim is no sock account.

Definitely not. The real socks, however, are very evident. Posing as a non-existent person is one thing, but stealing someone's personal photographs is pretty despicable.

The two friends --maninlove and exmil8 defending this sock tiger tim--interesting

edited to add--it is also despicable to post photos from the last century-

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Sep 17, 2012 5:09 PM GMT

451no said
Ex_Mil8 said
meninlove said bostonsam, TigerTim is no sock account.

Definitely not. The real socks, however, are very evident. Posing as a non-existent person is one thing, but stealing someone's personal photographs is pretty despicable.

The two friends --maninlove and exmil8 defending this sock tiger tim--interesting

edited to add--it is also despicable to post photos from the last century-

TigerTim has been here for 6 years. Meninlove have been here for 5 years. I have been here for 5 years (btw, my main pic is 3 years old, but thanks for the compliment). Remind us how long you have been here, sockboy.

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Sep 17, 2012 5:18 PM GMT

God, finally. His never ending hyberbolic spam posts were getting so annoying.

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Sep 17, 2012 5:20 PM GMT

Meninlove are known personally to many members and have hosted visits from RJ members.

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Sep 17, 2012 5:38 PM GMT

Ex_Mil8 said
451no said
Ex_Mil8 said
meninlove said bostonsam, TigerTim is no sock account.

Definitely not. The real socks, however, are very evident. Posing as a non-existent person is one thing, but stealing someone's personal photographs is pretty despicable.

The two friends --maninlove and exmil8 defending this sock tiger tim--interesting

edited to add--it is also despicable to post photos from the last century-

TigerTim has been here for 6 years. Meninlove have been here for 5 years. I have been here for 5 years. Remind us how long you have been here, sockboy.

speaking of sockboys......Has anyone noticed the resemblence of newbie/sock account "bostonsam's" pic and that of a MUCH younger "southbeach jane"

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Sep 17, 2012 6:03 PM GMT

This thread is a disgrace.
I'm disappointed that anyone would start a thread like this.
It serves no purpose at all other than giving nasty bitter people an opportunity to take poshots at a member who's been driven off RJ by the constant stalking and intimidation tactics of the insane clown conservaposse.

In my opinion this horrible thread should be ignored and allowed to die.

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Sep 17, 2012 6:23 PM GMT

I'm of a mixed mind on this departure.

On one hand, terrible personal attacks were made on him. I even reported one over the top posting to rhe Admins.

On the other hand, he did go around from thread to thread posting stuff that was only to stir up shit. And I wrote to him about doing that.

I guess the admins have had enough of him all around.

But I also strongly feel that if Catfish deserves to be banned, firebrand deserves it 1000x more.

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Sep 17, 2012 6:45 PM GMT

RickRick91 saidthe constant stalking and intimidation tactics

Pot meet kettle

Also, Catfish was no innocent in the "stalking and Intimidation" department either. He also, to the point of almost spamming, would start countless threads with the intent of stirring things up. All that said, I do think we all should take a step back and evaluate how we are treating one another on a personal level, and moving forward really make an effort to do better. I'm by no means innocent in any of this, but I do plan on trying very hard to put the personal feelings in check in the interest of a friendlier more respectful environment. I hope others will do the same.

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Sep 17, 2012 7:23 PM GMT

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RickRick91 saidthe constant stalking and intimidation tactics

Pot meet kettle Also, Catfish was no innocent in the "stalking and Intimidation" department either. He also, to the point of almost spamming, would start countless threads with the intent of stirring things up. All that said, I do think we all should take a step back and evaluate how we are treating one another on a personal level, and moving forward really make an effort to do better. I'm by no means innocent in any of this, but I do plan on trying very hard to put the personal feelings in check in the interest of a friendlier more respectful environment. I hope others will do the same.

I haven't gone searching the internet for dirt on RJ Repub members (as SoCal and Firebrand have) - to use in attacking humiliating and intimidating fellow RJ members.

That's a tactic of the insane clown conservaposse.

For example - SoCal threatened Balancing on a Forum thread.
SoCal told Balancing that he KNOWS WHERE BALANCING LIVES - and SoCal then threatened to show up on Balancing's doorstep.
THAT'S stalking.

The only way that SoCal would know where Balancing lives is if the sick twisted SoCal went looking for that information so he could use it to try to intimidate and frighten Balancing.

I've never seen any RJ progressives do anything as creepy and sick as that.

And these same tactics were used against Catfish.

It's a false equivalency to suggest that the progressives here on RJ have used the same tactics as the insane clown conservaposse.

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Sep 17, 2012 7:27 PM GMT

Caslon21000 said
But I also strongly feel that if Catfish deserves to be banned, firebrand deserves it 1000x more.

Only a thousand?

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Sep 17, 2012 7:45 PM GMT

RickRick91 said
It's a false equivalency to suggest that the progressives here on RJ have used the same tactics as the insane clown conservaposse.

I don't really think I need to argue with you about it because anyone with the ability to read knows full well that any of the posters you named as "RJ progressives" are guilty of all kinds of harassing, name-calling, and other personal attacks...and that would include YOU. Suffice to say, we all need to play a little nicer.

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