Would you join up?

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    Aug 22, 2008 7:05 PM GMT
    I just realized today that I know more gay people in the armed forces than I know that are straight, and that the majority of my gay friends are in or have been in the armed forces too.

    So I was wondering, if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was changed would you be more motivated to join up if you haven't already?

    I've always felt a great debt to those who have served but I don't know how I'd be influenced if they actually did change DADT. I don't know if I'm just using it as an excuse or if it would actually promt me to look into serving. Does anyone else feel this way or have any thoughts?
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    Aug 22, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
    funny, i was about to start a post on this very topic:

    my gramma put this bug in my ear tuesday. i mentioned it to my sister, who is enlisted in the coast guard, and now she's pressing me as well. i talked to my mom this morning and she and my other gramma both think it's a good idea...

    i may join up.

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    i've already left a message with a recruiter, so we'll see what happens. i come to them with education already, so i'm hoping (if i go through with this at all) to do officer training.
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    Aug 22, 2008 7:11 PM GMT
    Nah, a free spirit, 'tis me. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 22, 2008 7:12 PM GMT
    I wouldnt join the US military until I saw the enemy at my door!

    Nothing against the grunts who are serving.

    But all the friggin', fucking trilliions of dollars we have spent on those douchebag generals and they can't plan a war better than Iraq.

    The truth is only one general cared more for his country than his promotions and pensions to tell everybody that we weren't planning on using enough troops ....and this REPUBLICAN president fired him.

    Wars, just like everything think else in our government, are planned and run with the political perspective FIRST! ...They dont give a friggin' fuck if you get killed, if the politics is right. .... They will sacrifice your mortal life without a thought if it is political expedient.

    For everything, it's Politics first ...success, effectiveness, right and proper next....MAYBE!

    IN MY OPINION, THAT PETER PACE IS THE GREATEST AMERICAN MILITARY SLIMEBALL SINCE BENEDICT ARNOLD!!!!!!!!!

    Ok, I take it back.....ANYBODY who voluntarily joins our military is a FOOL!!!!!!!!!!
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    Aug 22, 2008 8:39 PM GMT
    ...nope. I don't do subordination, and I don't respect the institution, its adherents, or its commanders in chief all that much, either.
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    Aug 22, 2008 9:21 PM GMT
    Generally I am anti war

    maybe if it were a war that i actually supported I would join.

    However this current war is an absurd war for oil and i will not be in the enlistment line any time soon
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    Aug 22, 2008 9:23 PM GMT
    Hell to the NO!!!!
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    Aug 22, 2008 9:34 PM GMT
    I am ex-navy, and in those days they would hunt you down. I got hunted and found. But I loved military life and would have made it my career. At least they gave me a trade, and an honorable discharge.
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    Aug 22, 2008 9:49 PM GMT
    I'm retired Army and loved it. I had a combat MOS which means, very few of the skills I learned apply to civilian life. That's probably why it was so much fun. DADT shouldn't be a factor, if serving in the defense of the republic is your goal, you aren't there for romance anyway.

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    Aug 22, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    warrior_poet63 saidI just realized today that I know more gay people in the armed forces than I know that are straight, and that the majority of my gay friends are in or have been in the armed forces too.


    I wasn't aware that that many gay people were in the military, especially with DADT in place.

    But anyway, I probably wouldn't join, given the poor treatment some soldiers are getting once they get back home. Plus, this war feels like a bit of a fiasco, considering how many lives and trillions of dollars it is costing. It is not something that I would like to get involved in.
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    Aug 22, 2008 9:54 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidi may join up.


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    Aug 22, 2008 10:06 PM GMT
    John43620 saidDADT shouldn't be a factor, if serving in the defense of the republic is your goal, you aren't there for romance anyway.


    I don't think people want to do away with DADT so that they can look for a boyfriend while they're serving. I think it's more related to the opinion that if you're putting your life at risk for your country the least the military can do is respect your private life.
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    Aug 22, 2008 10:08 PM GMT
    John43620 said
    The US Army, Fun, Travel and Adventure.





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    Aug 22, 2008 10:11 PM GMT
    Caslon6000 saidI wouldnt join the US military until I saw the enemy at my door!

    Nothing against the grunts who are serving.


    Except for his comment about volunteer enlistees being fools, I tend to agree with Caslon. Not only am I too old, now, I have never had any interest in the military lifestyle. However, if the country were to be invaded by hostile forces, I'd seriously consider it.
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    Aug 22, 2008 10:24 PM GMT
    I dont think I have the guts to pick an arm and kill somebody!!! if that was the case, I could not live with myself and probably be depressed or kill myself too!

    Then again, if I was being attacked as Caslon said "until I saw the enemy at my door!" Maybe it would be different. So my answer is No I would never Join.
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    Aug 22, 2008 10:47 PM GMT
    Ummmm "if the country were to be invaded by hostile forces, I'd seriously consider it."

    Modern warfare takes training and skill, if you waited until we were invaded, it would already be too late. Or you could take the guerrilla route and run out and shoot some bullets at the enemy and then run back and hide behind and among civilians.

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    Aug 22, 2008 10:55 PM GMT
    John43620 saidUmmmm "if the country were to be invaded by hostile forces, I'd seriously consider it."

    Modern warfare takes training and skill, if you waited until we were invaded, it would already be too late. Or you could take the guerrilla route and run out and shoot some bullets at the enemy and then run back and hide behind and among civilians.


    Probably so, but I wouldn't voluntarily enlist in the military under the current administration.
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    Aug 22, 2008 11:16 PM GMT
    John43620 said
    Modern warfare takes training and skill, if you waited until we were invaded, it would already be too late. Or you could take the guerrilla route and run out and shoot some bullets at the enemy and then run back and hide behind and among civilians.



    Modern warfare doesn't seem to be all that effective, even with all the training. I'm being far more practical and learning to speak Mandarin. icon_lol.gif
  • joeindallas

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    Aug 22, 2008 11:19 PM GMT
    Been there Done that prior to DADT. Now with the new regs from Bush DoD DADT is basis for Witch Hunts

    Never any terrorists in Iraq until we went in
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    Aug 23, 2008 12:52 AM GMT
    “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” — John Kerry icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 23, 2008 1:09 AM GMT
    Actually, though it's not a dream of mine, I probably would. I'm quite patriotic and would love to serve my country and benefit from the incentives they provide. My weight used to be an issue, but I've lost enough to join and being trained by the best would deal with the extra weight. So, if 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell" wasn't in play, I probably would.
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    Aug 23, 2008 1:09 AM GMT
    I've gotten close to too many people that have felt the pain of violence and war to ever join. I don't think I am capable of killing another person or giving orders to kill another person or making plans to effectively kill another person.

    I have some very close friends in the military, and I also come from a military family, so I understand the motives of joining but I cannot do it in clear conscience. I pray that they (my friends and family) will never have to murder another human being and that they will come home safely.
  • MuslDrew

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    Aug 23, 2008 1:21 AM GMT
    If they had wanted me when I was young enough to enlist I would have done it in a heartbeat. If I were young enough now, I'm not so sure.
  • Timbales

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    Aug 23, 2008 1:22 AM GMT
    I respect the choice of men and women who decide to serve in the military, but it's not something I would be willing to do.
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    Aug 23, 2008 1:24 AM GMT
    Out of high school, I was thinking of paying for school by joining the marines. But, my reasons for wanting to join were part of the worst aspects in me. I am very glad I decided not to join after discussing it with family and friends.