Chick-Fil-A ceases donations to anti-LGBT groups and..

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    Sep 19, 2012 12:41 PM GMT
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    http://www.queerty.com/chick-fil-a-stops-anti-gay-donations-adopts-anti-discrimination-policy-20120919/

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    Sep 19, 2012 1:10 PM GMT
    Good first step, but let's see where they are a few years from now, in terms of foundation spending, promotional activity, and human resource policies. In the interim, the backlash from Focus on the Anus and NOM should be yummy.

    Also, why is the communication signed by the Real Estate Director? Is Dan's arthritis acting up?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 19, 2012 1:33 PM GMT
    This is a good thing. Hopefully others will follow.
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    Sep 19, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
    The gay boycott cost them so much that now they can't afford to pay anti-gay groups.

    As the old saying goes, "Money talks, but lack of money talks louder." icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 19, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThe gay boycott cost them so much that now they can't afford to pay anti-gay groups.

    As the old saying goes, "Money talks, but lack of money talks louder." icon_wink.gif

    First I've heard that saying, but hopefully it applies here, and with other anti-gay businesses. Dietetically a moot point for me, since I've never eaten at a Chick-fil-A, or at most fast food places. How gays concerned about health and good nutrition could patronize them anyway puzzles me, even if HRC gave them 100% ratings.
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    Sep 19, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidThe gay boycott cost them so much that now they can't afford to pay anti-gay groups.

    As the old saying goes, "Money talks, but lack of money talks louder." icon_wink.gif

    First I've heard that saying, but hopefully it applies here, and with other anti-gay businesses. Dietetically a moot point for me, since I've never eaten at a Chick-fil-A, or at most fast food places. How gays concerned about health and good nutrition could patronize them anyway puzzles me, even if HRC gave them 100% ratings.
    I now live 1 block from a McDonald's. It comes in handy when I don't feel like cooking breakfast. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 19, 2012 2:52 PM GMT
    Waiting to hear NOM's and FRC's heads exploding! icon_lol.gif

    Of course, I also am suspicious of this sudden distancing from the prior rhetoric by Dan Cathy, CE0. I think it would be more likely the donations will continue through nefarious paths, perhaps hidden, his own private donations,
    or, since the statements seems to say they won't contribute to organizations with "political agendas", Chik-Fil-A will continue to contribute for "religious, biblically based" agendas (code word for NOM and FRC and other hate groups that have benefitted so far and will likely continue in one way or another to get $$$ from Chik-Fil-A. Gotta keep fightin' them abominations as Jesus commanded, right?icon_wink.gif

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    Sep 19, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    Menergy_1 saidWaiting to hear NOM's and FRC's heads exploding! icon_lol.gif

    Of course, I also am suspicious of this sudden distancing from the prior rhetoric by Dan Cathy, CE0. I think it would be more likely the donations will continue through nefarious paths, perhaps hidden, his own private donations,
    or, since the statements seems to say they won't contribute to organizations with "political agendas", Chik-Fil-A will continue to contribute for "religious, biblically based" agendas (code word for NOM and FRC and other hate groups that have benefitted so far and will likely continue in one way or another to get $$$ from Chik-Fil-A. Gotta keep fightin' them abominations as Jesus commanded, right?icon_wink.gif


    Agree
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    Sep 19, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    Of course it is only spin but it is spin in the right direction. It won't make me give up being a vegetarian and it probably won't change them internally either, not in this generation of that family. Dimes turn people but people don't turn on a dime. People can, however, make change. So good news for their employees who couldn't say anything and for others who would not be silenced.
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    Sep 19, 2012 6:52 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    paulflexes saidThe gay boycott cost them so much that now they can't afford to pay anti-gay groups.

    As the old saying goes, "Money talks, but lack of money talks louder." icon_wink.gif

    First I've heard that saying, but hopefully it applies here, and with other anti-gay businesses. Dietetically a moot point for me, since I've never eaten at a Chick-fil-A, or at most fast food places. How gays concerned about health and good nutrition could patronize them anyway puzzles me, even if HRC gave them 100% ratings.


    I'm with ya! We've got a real Mom & Pop hamburger place in town here, and a great local pub (not to mention some good restaurants) so why go to the grease factories?

    Last time I was in a Mickey D's was about 2001...

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    Sep 19, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
    I can't believe they were so ignorant in the first place. "HAY GUYS LET'S DO SHIT THAT'LL PLUMMET OUR SALES AND ALIENATE A SUBSTANTIAL SECTOR OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE".
  • metta

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    Sep 19, 2012 7:40 PM GMT
    There are a few more details here:


    Chick-fil-A agrees to stop funding antigay groups, Chicago alderman says

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chick-fil-funding-anti-gay-groups-175154249.html?_esi=1

    Full Story
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/09/chick-fil-ends-anti-gay-donations-moves-chicago/57005/

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    http://www.scribd.com/doc/106382523/Chick-fil-A-Final
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    Sep 19, 2012 7:44 PM GMT
    Not so fast, read the update on that article:

    UPDATE: Chick-fil-A released a statement of their own, neither confirming nor denying the Civil Rights Agenda’s release, but claiming that the chain has never been anti-anyone:
    We have no agenda, policy or position against anyone. We have a 65-year history of providing hospitality for all people and, as a dedicated family business, serving and valuing everyone regardless of their beliefs or opinions…The genuine, historical intent of our WinShape Foundation and corporate giving has been to support youth, family and educational programs.


    Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/chick-fil-a-stops-anti-gay-donations-adopts-anti-discrimination-policy-20120919/#ixzz26wkwO7hD
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    Sep 19, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    So is this PR spin and double talk? "We don't discriminate in our restaurant business operations, and our corporate giving is for family programs." (Family programs being misleading fronts for anti-gay causes)

    Is that what we really have here? Not very clear, but what you would expect if this is nothing more than image repair, while not actually altering their giving programs to anti-gay groups.
  • metta

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    Sep 19, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
    It sounds like they are fearful of admitting what they have signed/agreed to do. They are afraid of losing their base customers but they are probably also having problems with getting new locations approved.
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    Sep 19, 2012 8:05 PM GMT
    I still don't get how a chicken joint expects to be taken seriously as a religious organization. It's fast food. And I can actually get more food at McDonalds for my buck. Mmmm those mushroom and swiss burgers...unff. But Chick-Fil-A is a bit healthier. I just don't want to buy a "sandwich" that consists of chicken and a pickle.
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    Sep 19, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
    Somebody in the comments figured it out. The Real Estate guy is just trying to offer the Alderman assurances that "We Love EVERYONE" to minimize popular blowback over a future Chicago CFA store, without Corporate having to really go and change anything. They wouldn't bother with him unless they were seeking some kind of tax break/zoning code relaxation just to grace the Windy City with a second store.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 19, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    It means that the boycott worked and the mayors and others who advocated for freedom and equality were right. Progress wins again.

    It means the idiot fake "Christians" who stood in line stuffing their faces with greasy food instead of doing the real work of Christ and spreading love while fighting for the poor and sick lost have utterly embarrassed themselves again.

    It means the self-loathing right-wing gays who defended Hate-fil-A should be ashamed of themselves. This is a positive change that happened in spite of them. They are useless.

    Yay for the fighters.
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    Sep 19, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    Read all the posts, this is a smokescreen on Chick-Fil-A's part.
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    Sep 19, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis is a good thing. Hopefully others will follow.


    But aren't you the one who thought the boycotts were pointless and stupid and even though you said you disagreed with the owners you believe they had a right to put their money into any hate group they wanted? icon_neutral.gif

    Didn't you make fun of what you thought at the time it back firing the boycott? icon_neutral.gif

    Anyways good for Chik Fil A for finally realizing alienating anyone in business is bad for business. Still refuse to ever eat there after all has been said and done.



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    Sep 19, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    David4985 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis is a good thing. Hopefully others will follow.


    But aren't you the one who thought the boycotts were pointless and stupid and even though you said you disagreed with the owners you believe they had a right to put their money into any hate group they wanted? icon_neutral.gif


    Dan Cathy has always had a right to put his private money where he wanted it. At issue was corporate support of groups that worked against freedom and equality. It is a good thing that the dustup/boycott has allowed Chick-fil-A corporate to see the error of its ways and affirm the dignity and equality of gay Americans.

    I'm embarrassed for the right-wing gays who defended Chick-fil-A in its wrongness. They will pretend now that they were on board all along, but no one will forget that when the chips were down they stood against freedom and equality.
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    Sep 19, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    David4985 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis is a good thing. Hopefully others will follow.


    But aren't you the one who thought the boycotts were pointless and stupid and even though you said you disagreed with the owners you believe they had a right to put their money into any hate group they wanted? icon_neutral.gif

    Didn't you make fun of what you thought at the time it back firing the boycott? icon_neutral.gif

    Anyways good for Chik Fil A for finally realizing alienating anyone in business is bad for business. Still refuse to ever eat there after all has been said and done.





    He's a yes-man. He'll go along with any cause du jour his party latches onto, even if it's anti-gay.
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    Sep 19, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    I'm embarrassed for the right-wing gays who defended Chick-fil-A in its wrongness. They will pretend now that they were on board all along, but no one will forget that when the chips were down they stood against freedom and equality.


    Just like when we finally get the right to marry, adopt, and not fear loosing our jobs for our sexuality they will reap all the rewards without doing any of the work and also by actually working against our cause. Typical. icon_neutral.gif Makes me actually sick to my stomach. icon_neutral.gif



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    Sep 19, 2012 9:49 PM GMT
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    Sep 19, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    David4985 said
    TroyAthlete said
    I'm embarrassed for the right-wing gays who defended Chick-fil-A in its wrongness. They will pretend now that they were on board all along, but no one will forget that when the chips were down they stood against freedom and equality.


    Just like when we finally get the right to marry, adopt, and not fear loosing our jobs for our sexuality they will reap all the rewards without doing any of the work and also by actually working against our cause. Typical. icon_neutral.gif Makes me actually sick to my stomach. icon_neutral.gif





    Don't forget that most of the people on welfare are republican! It's the same thing: they have more to gain by losing, yet they still think they're in the right, when really they're just self-righteous.