Will GOP fail to gain Senate and lose House?

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    Sep 23, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
    Romney's problems seem to have spread to other Republican candidates. In at least three closely watched Senate races, in Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Virginia, Democrats have suddenly snatched a lead. A few weeks ago, Republicans were pretty sure of making the net gain of four seats to give them control of the Senate. As matters now stand, they won't. And they could conceivably lose their majority in the House as well.

    Is it too much to hope for?
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    Sep 23, 2012 11:42 AM GMT
    Speaking of HOPE: For Paul Ryan to LOSE his Congressional seat is all I want for Christmas!

    Poll shows Zerban has a shot at beating Ryan

    Rob Zerban, the Democrat challenging Paul Ryan, has a shot at beating Ryan in November, the first poll done for Zerban's campaign shows.

    One of the hurdles for a challenger in a Republican district is to demonstrate that there's a real chance for victory. There is a lot of competition for campaign financing, to put it mildly, and decisions made in Washington, DC about which races to target can turn the contribution spigot on or off.

    Zerban's pollster, Paul Maslin, says in a memo that Zerban "is well-positioned to give incumbent Paul Ryan the toughest fight of his career, with a very good chance to upset him."

    More at The Paul Ryan Watch.
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    Sep 23, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
    I think Democrats win the Senate, I think they even might lose a few seats. Scott Brown in Massachusetts looks like a loser and I'm really biased but I want Elizabeth Warren to win (She is a UH alum).

    I think the Republicans win the House again. Mainly because of redistricting and because of gerrymandering.

    I think all States should be like California and disband the state legislature from drawing the lines. It is unconstitutional and has been destroying our political system. How Austin, Texas the most liberal city in the South U.S has 4 seats but only 1 democrat just shows how bad it has gotten.
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    Sep 23, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidRomney's problems seem to have spread to other Republican candidates. In at least three closely watched Senate races, in Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Virginia, Democrats have suddenly snatched a lead. A few weeks ago, Republicans were pretty sure of making the net gain of four seats to give them control of the Senate. As matters now stand, they won't. And they could conceivably lose their majority in the House as well.

    Is it too much to hope for?




    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least. That said, I'm going out on a limb and predicting a surprising outcome to the election in November. Not sure exactly how it will go (nobody knows that) but I do think the polls will prove more unreliable than they have ever been at predicting the outcome.
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    Sep 23, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    'Cause I'm sure you don't think vast numbers of voters are going to wake up one day and say, "Hey, he's stiff, unlikeable, presumptuous, out-of-touch, and generally an asshole, but I'm gonna vote for Romney anyway."


    Like I said, based on what I think the election results MIGHT be, I think the polls will prove themselves a very unreliable barometer of what's really going on in the country. But for arguments sake, let's assume they are accurate. If that's the case, "vast numbers of voters" aren't exactly rallying around the president either. Most national polls are still neck and neck and show signs of tightening.
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:01 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said
    'Cause I'm sure you don't think vast numbers of voters are going to wake up one day and say, "Hey, he's stiff, unlikeable, presumptuous, out-of-touch, and generally an asshole, but I'm gonna vote for Romney anyway."


    Like I said, based on what I think the election results MIGHT be, I think the polls will prove themselves a very unreliable barometer of what's really going on in the country. But for arguments sake, let's assume they are accurate. If that's the case, "vast numbers of voters" aren't exactly rallying around the president either. Most national polls are still neck and neck and show signs of tightening.


    The polls could also be wrong in favoring Romney that much. Likability is one of the more important factors when voting. Many many people do not like Romney and he comes off as one of the elites who mocks the normal American. In my opinion the only reason Romney still has a chance is because Americans think the economy is bad. A bad economy tends to do it in for the incumbent.
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:04 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidSpeaking of HOPE: For Paul Ryan to LOSE his Congressional seat is all I want for Christmas!

    LOL...You may want to start preparing yourself for the likely reality that you'll probably have to settle for a new winter sweater icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least.


    Hardly an obsession, but this 'how dare you foreigners have an interest in our politics' line seems to be a recurring conservaposse theme of late. I have been a member of this site for six months less than you have, yet you have made 16,471 postings to my 3,605 postings. If I am obsessive, what does that make you?
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidIs it too much to hope for?

    Difficult to say. US Republicans have been working for years to tilt the electoral playing field in their favor. Blatant partisan redistricting is just one example that dilutes the votes of many Americans. Or they practice outright voter disenfranchisement, on a scale not seen since the Jim Crow laws of the post-Reconstruction South, and against the same minority groups.

    Republicans also created the false threat of voter fraud, to enact voting restriction laws that constitute real voter fraud, when qualified Americans are barred from exercising their Constitutional voting rights. Their logic & approach is very similar to their false claims that gays threaten straight marriage, and so have enacted laws to prevent gay marriage and deny gays other basic civil rights. With the Republicans someone is always threatening them, whether it's Communists, or gays, or minorities, or women, or non-Christians.

    Or like some Republicans on RJ, who feel threatened by a non-US commenter such as yourself. Except when the thread post agrees with their positions, then it's OK for a non-resident to say something about US politics. And should anyone else here object to uninformed comments from members outside the US, the Republicans rush to defend the non-US poster if he's presenting their Party line, or simply turn a blind eye.

    Such is the very malleable and illogical logic of Republicans almost everywhere in this country. And just think, as an RJ member you get to witness it up close & personal, and even interact with them, much like in a petting zoo. But be careful - these exhibits bite! icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    ^ Art hit it on the nail.

    Why are we hearing about voter fraud. Voter fraud NEVER happens. It is election fraud by the election officials. I'm glad the voter ID bill in Texas failed and I'm hoping the Supreme Court eats our state legislature alive for our terrible and racially disenfranchised districts that were already thrown out once.
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidIf I am obsessive, what does that make you?


    Certifiably addicted to RJ? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 23, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said




    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least.



    CJAZ, Have you expressed this concern with riddler?
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    Sep 23, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    JockTheVote said
    CJAZ, Have you expressed this concern with riddler?



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  • tazzari

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    Sep 23, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidRomney's problems seem to have spread to other Republican candidates. In at least three closely watched Senate races, in Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Virginia, Democrats have suddenly snatched a lead. A few weeks ago, Republicans were pretty sure of making the net gain of four seats to give them control of the Senate. As matters now stand, they won't. And they could conceivably lose their majority in the House as well.

    Is it too much to hope for?


    Please, God, let it be so!

    We need a conservative counter-poise. But not this one - we need one based on reason and a willingness to work with the opposition. My hope is that the GOP as now constituted will go down in flames, and then someone will put it back together on a rational, we're-all-in-it-together spirit.
  • tazzari

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    Sep 23, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    “Why are we hearing about voter fraud. Voter fraud NEVER happens.

    But it does! It does!

    Ten cases have been confirmed! Out of 146 million registered voters, that means that fully one out of every 15 million votes is fraudulent!

    It’s a MAJOR issue, and the GOP, vigilant as ever, is right on it.
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    Sep 23, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
    JockTheVote said
    CuriousJockAZ said




    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least.



    CJAZ, Have you expressed this concern with riddler?







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    Sep 23, 2012 8:55 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Ex_Mil8 saidRomney's problems seem to have spread to other Republican candidates. In at least three closely watched Senate races, in Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Virginia, Democrats have suddenly snatched a lead. A few weeks ago, Republicans were pretty sure of making the net gain of four seats to give them control of the Senate. As matters now stand, they won't. And they could conceivably lose their majority in the House as well.

    Is it too much to hope for?




    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least. That said, I'm going out on a limb and predicting a surprising outcome to the election in November. Not sure exactly how it will go (nobody knows that) but I do think the polls will prove more unreliable than they have ever been at predicting the outcome.



    LOSERS always poo poo the polls.
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    Sep 23, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
    JockTheVote said
    CuriousJockAZ said

    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least.

    CJAZ, Have you expressed this concern with riddler?

    LMAO! And after riddler maybe he'll have some time for tru_blu_auzzie. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 23, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    JockTheVote said
    CuriousJockAZ said

    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least.

    CJAZ, Have you expressed this concern with riddler?

    LMAO! And after riddler maybe he'll have some time for tru_blu_auzzie. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Don't laugh too loud Deco--- One would hate to bring up doing battle with a woman over a parking spot icon_biggrin.gif


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    Sep 23, 2012 10:23 PM GMT
    I would hope they would fail to gain the Senate and lose the House. America doesn't need them having a majority in anything because that would allow them to enforce their destructive, hateful agenda. They already have too much power with their House majority. They just passed a bill in the House that attacks EPA regulations on pollution. The irony is the EPA was created by Nixon.
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    Sep 23, 2012 10:32 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least. That said, I'm going out on a limb and predicting a surprising outcome to the election in November. Not sure exactly how it will go (nobody knows that) but I do think the polls will prove more unreliable than they have ever been at predicting the outcome.


    It is hardly going out on a limb to suggest that the unpredictable is indeed unpredictable.

    One might better characterize your assessment as tautological.
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    Sep 23, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least. That said, I'm going out on a limb and predicting a surprising outcome to the election in November. Not sure exactly how it will go (nobody knows that) but I do think the polls will prove more unreliable than they have ever been at predicting the outcome.


    It is hardly going out on a limb to suggest that the unpredictable is indeed unpredictable.

    One might better characterize your assessment as tautological.



    Asinine would also be an apt word to describe the pap CJ posted.
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    Sep 23, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidI think Democrats win the Senate, I think they even might lose a few seats. Scott Brown in Massachusetts looks like a loser and I'm really biased but I want Elizabeth Warren to win (She is a UH alum).

    I think the Republicans win the House again. Mainly because of redistricting and because of gerrymandering.

    I think all States should be like California and disband the state legislature from drawing the lines. It is unconstitutional and has been destroying our political system. How Austin, Texas the most liberal city in the South U.S has 4 seats but only 1 democrat just shows how bad it has gotten.



    How is the process in which democrats benefited from for 5 decades a problem all of a sudden?

    the concept of a district does not even appear in the constitution.
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    Sep 23, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    451no said
    ART_DECO said
    JockTheVote said
    CuriousJockAZ said

    Your obsession with American politics is puzzling to say the least.

    CJAZ, Have you expressed this concern with riddler?

    LMAO! And after riddler maybe he'll have some time for tru_blu_auzzie. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Don't laugh too loud Deco--- One would hate to bring up doing battle with a woman over a parking spot

    By all means bring it up, if you can relate it to this thread topic. Or are you just making some kind of ad hominem threat to stifle discussion here? That tactic's been very counterproductive for you in your past RJ incarnations.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Sep 24, 2012 1:35 AM GMT
    Yes I am encouraged and even more so that Connecticut was also recently added to the list of changing tides in Senate campaigns. Current count after the election on RealClearPolitics.com (a blending of conservative, liberal, and non-partisan polling) shows the Senate at Dems 52 and Reps 48 after the election.