Privacy: Was it wrong of me....

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    Sep 25, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
    To deny use of my personal computer in class?


    Let me start by saying that I am quite upset over what happened today in class. I came in with my laptop (out of 3 students, I was the only one with a Windows PC) hoping to multi-task, take notes and get other things done. Class was based off of PP presentation which was on a USB drive. Well, thats great except that Prof. forgot to bring his PC and couldn't run the PP without it. I was asked if mine could be used for such purpose (Apple PCs require a special accessory while I had an HDMI outlet on mine) and I kindly declined. Some kid made an inappropriate comment directed at me and "possible" contents that "must be" stored on my computer. I was soo heated and tempted to say something back, but remained silent and did not reciprocate.

    Anyways, Prof. was scrambling to find a way to get his lecture going, repeatedly asking me if I have changed my mind and was willing to cooperate. Eventually one student said he lived close by and could go home and grab his PC instead. I started feeling bad.

    All this attention and pressure finally got to me. I didn't want to complicate things further and finally agreed to use my PC for this presentation.

    I feel ashamed, almost embarrassed for being so uncooperative and stubborn. At same time though, I don't know if I should be. I truly value my privacy, and I see my PC same way as my phone. Something that is my own and very personal and shouldn't be used/shared if I don't want it to be.


    So am I wrong for reacting in such manner to such simple request?

    I value everyone's opinion, please let me know what you think!
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    You should have told him to load the PP presentation on your computer since you can't take notes like you normally would. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
    No. I have been in similar situations, though with smaller groups. And yes, the main reason is because I look at naughty sites and have naughty pictures (not of me of course) and it would embarass the fuck outta me if anyone saw them.

    You don't have to explain yourself to these people. You probably won't see any of them outside of class anyways. They will get over it....


    BUUUUTTTT if you really had nothing to hide, then I see no issue in letting them use it....
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:24 AM GMT
    You could have just created a new limited user account on your computer. It essentially creates a new profile without any links to your documents or internet history.

    Now the professor is going to think you're an ass. I suggest you try to smooth things over with him, and maybe elaborate on why you were initially reluctant. As for the kid that made that low brow comment, you should have countered with..

    Yeah, I was looking at the nude pics your mom sent me.

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    Sep 25, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidYou should have told him to load the PP presentation on your computer since you can't take notes like you normally would. icon_wink.gif


    I had a binder so I took notes on paper.

    jmusmc85No. I have been in similar situations, though with smaller groups. And yes, the main reason is because I look at naughty sites and have naughty pictures (not of me of course) and it would embarass the fuck outta me if anyone saw them.

    You don't have to explain yourself to these people. You probably won't see any of them outside of class anyways. They will get over it....


    BUUUUTTTT if you really had nothing to hide, then I see no issue in letting them use it....


    Thanks for sharing. We all have secrets and/or something to hideicon_twisted.gif

    xrichxYou could have just created a new limited user account on your computer. It essentially creates a new profile without any links to your documents or internet history.

    Now the professor is going to think you're an ass. I suggest you try to smooth things over with him, and maybe elaborate on why you were initially reluctant. As for the kid that made that low brow comment, you should have countered with..

    Yeah, I was looking at the nude pics your mom sent me.


    Yeah I see that option every time I log in (New User option or w/e its called), but I never had a need for it until something so unexpected happened, like today's class.

    And that is a very good comeback, but... I always try to be polite+proper, and I bet if I made such comment I would be tormented by it all night.

    After class was dismissed, I did take time to apologize for complexities/difficulties I have caused him during that particular session. I let him know that I find computers very personal and therefore didn't want to use it for that presentation.
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:53 AM GMT
    Hopefully he won't thake it out on your final grade... icon_eek.gif
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    Sep 25, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
    Ultimately, the responsibility was the professor's.
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    Sep 25, 2012 3:15 AM GMT
    musicbox89 said
    paulflexes saidYou should have told him to load the PP presentation on your computer since you can't take notes like you normally would. icon_wink.gif


    I had a binder so I took notes on paper.
    That's old school, dude.
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    Sep 25, 2012 3:38 AM GMT
    Anocxu saidHopefully he won't thake it out on your final grade... icon_eek.gif


    That makes two of us. He "might" get over it by time midterms come.

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    Sep 25, 2012 3:40 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    musicbox89 said
    paulflexes saidYou should have told him to load the PP presentation on your computer since you can't take notes like you normally would. icon_wink.gif


    I had a binder so I took notes on paper.
    That's old school, dude.


    Lol, laptops are old school too, its all about the tablets now!

    Besides, old methods can be most reliable at times.
  • highforthis

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    Sep 25, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
    What, did you have a sailor moon desktop or something lol?

    Back in highschool when I had porn, I just kept it in a subfolder within a shortcut titled "final exam questions" on my desktop, so if someone finds it, i'll just pretend that I simply haven't seen the downloaded files and was fooled along with a ring of hopeful cheaters lol

    Btw, anyone echoing your resentment toward the guy who mocked is just trying to get into your pants. Americans are too obsessed with their personal rights... in this circumstance any normal guy without porn thumbnails on his desktop would just bite the bullet and take a bit of embarrassment whatever it is.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Sep 25, 2012 4:20 AM GMT
    No, you were not wrong. Nothing will come of it. Put your hardass face on when you go to class and don't worry about. If he doesn't know by now you don't ask for things like that, then it's time he learned. One thing professors like to do is intimidate students ... don't fall for it. Think of it this way, they are basically students that never left school.

    You should have just said you don't have power point installed. And you should have told him if you get a virus off his thumb drive, he would be buying you a new pc as well as pay for any classes you could fail because of any career losses it would cause in the future and any other cost that you might acquire because of it.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 25, 2012 6:40 AM GMT
    You are 100% correct.
    Almost everybody has some sort of information on their computer that they would just as soon not share with the general public. But, regardless, you have the right to decline for any reason, or no reason at all.

    The professor was wrong in putting you in the uncomfortable position of having to say, "NO." And, he was doubly wrong for pressuring you further.

    The professor created his own problem by not being prepared for his own class.
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    Sep 25, 2012 6:44 AM GMT
    Serious. How does a professor forget to bring his laptop to class? Especially if he's planning to give a presentation that day.

    And yet another annoying thing about Macbooks. Fuckin dongles are required for the most common types of connections. icon_lol.gif

    ~$100 worth of dongles right here..

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    Sep 25, 2012 6:45 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidYou are 100% correct.
    Almost everybody has some sort of information on their computer that they would just as soon not share with the general public. But, regardless, you have the right to decline for any reason, or no reason at all.

    The professor was wrong in putting you in the uncomfortable position of having to say, "NO." And, he was doubly wrong for pressuring you further.

    The professor created his own problem by not being prepared for his own class.





    ^ this is well put.

    If for any reason you feel like this ends up affecting your grades or treatment in class, I would go to the department head and explain the situation. Just be prepared to explain why you weren't comfortable with it.... You shouldn't have to, but they might ask.
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    Sep 25, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
    Oh that was inhumane of you! You should be locked up! Lol..
    Seriously, it's your stuff, let him deal with his stuff on his own. Not your job to get what he needs done for him... and if you had personal stuff on your computer, even more reason to not share it. Your prerogative.
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    Sep 25, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    No, you had no real obligation to share your computer. It always pisses me off when teachers have such high expectations from their students, then they pull stunts like this and just laugh it officon_evil.gif.
    I don't have any porn someone could easily access (I've created secret folders hidden in locations only I would knowicon_wink.gif ) But I still don't want them seeing my personal documents. Everything we own is an extension of ourselves, especially technology since we can do so much with it.
    If you ask me this was extremely unprofessional of the teacher. If the chance ever comes up in one of those teacher surveys, I would remember this.
  • Guycicle

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    Sep 25, 2012 2:28 PM GMT
    My friend/roommate (who I wasn't out to) called me one day to ask if he could borrow my laptop since his was getting fixed. The problem was I hadn't payed attention at all to what windows were open and I know I had porn and stuff right there.

    Reluctantly I told him he could. icon_redface.gif

    A couple weeks later I was looking something up online with him and the address bar auto-populated some gay web address and I told him "sorry about all this gay shit on here" and asked "you knew I was gay, right?" and that's how I *officially* came out to him.

    He was cool with it and I'm kinda glad it happened that way cause otherwise I probably would've indefinitely put off coming out to him.


    . . .But yeah, you had no obligation to let him use yours.
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:45 PM GMT
    Adding a limited "loaner" account is a really good idea regardless, with links to a few essential programs like MS Office and Firefox/Chrome, etc. Don't share any of your main account files or details with the limited account, and you should be OK with maintaining your privacy.

    Yes it's inappropriate for the professor to insist that you surrender your personal laptop for the class, however in reality, sometimes these situations arise. Having the extra account waiting and ready to go makes the process less painful and keeps your information safe.

    Of, if you're really brazen, you could just change your desktop wallpaper to some ultra-lewd Bel Ami bukkake screen cap, and wait for the prof. to keel over. That'll teach him.
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:45 PM GMT
    I don't think you're in the wrong.

    It's not your responsibility to prepare and control the lecture. It's not in the syllabus correct? The professor shouldn't have had pressured you, being the one who is responsible for the lecture entirely.

    Don't feel too bad, it's not your fault. icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 25, 2012 2:48 PM GMT
    You shouldn't be ashamed. It was the professor who came to class unprepared.
  • ParkerDLamb

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    Sep 25, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    I would have responded in the same way.
    Hell, I get ticked if someone says something like-
    "Did you get a new phone? Can I see it?" WHY!?
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    Sep 25, 2012 3:01 PM GMT
    I would've responded the same way as you. You're not expected to cover for the professor because he wasn't prepared. It's your computer so I think it's completely acceptable to say no.
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    Sep 25, 2012 3:02 PM GMT
    That must have been such an uncomfortable situation. Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place. Sorry that happened. But you didn't do anything wrong.

    I would see your prof (privately) and tell him (nicely) why you declined his request. Not that you owe him an explanation -- but it will definitely smooth things over. If he is even a remotely reasonable person, he will totally understand and quite likely wind up apologizing for inadvertently putting you on the spot.
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    Sep 25, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    You did fine. I would maybe email the professor later just to explain that it wasn't anything personal at all and that you weren't being an ass.

    With the viruses and privacy issues going around these days, nobody should expected to give up their computers for anything.