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Lance Bass Will Be Dancing with a Female (Instead of a Male) on D a n c i n g with the S t a r s
allencommon Posts: 229	Aug 25, 2008 11:20 PM GMT Quote Lance Bass who stated he doesn't want to be a gay role model will be dancing with a female versus a male on The ABC hit show, D a n c i n g With The S t a r s. I'm disappointed. Your thoughts?

jakebenson Posts: 720	Aug 25, 2008 11:23 PM GMT Quote allencommon saidLance Bass who stated he doesn't want to be a gay role model will be dancing with a female versus a male on The ABC hit show, D a n c i n g With The S t a r s. I'm disappointed. Your thoughts? Wtf is dancing with the stars?
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Aug 25, 2008 11:54 PM GMT Quote I don't see the issue. They are dancing, not fucking.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 26, 2008 12:01 AM GMT Quote I agree that they are dancing, not fucking. It still would have been great to see him dancing with a male. But I suppose a male-male team could be unfair..if everyone else is male-female teams.
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Aug 26, 2008 12:10 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 saidI agree that they are dancing, not fucking. It still would have been great to see him dancing with a male. But I suppose a male-male team could be unfair..if everyone else is male-female teams. The whole scoring and standards of the competition are based on a male/female team. Besides, who would lead? Would Lance be the man or woman?
Bunjamon Posts: 288	Aug 26, 2008 1:00 AM GMT Quote Middle America is not ready to see two men dancing on prime-time television. That would not fly at all.
matt45710 Posts: 719	Aug 26, 2008 1:05 AM GMT Quote Well, there is precedent for this. Last year, they did have a show dance of Steve Guttenberg dancing with Jonathan Roberts. Granted, it would be difficult to judge two guys dancing verses man-woman couples. I think in many ways this is like gay male actors playing straight roles in movies. Just shows that America for the most part doesn't care what you do in bed.
Bunjamon Posts: 288	Aug 26, 2008 1:16 AM GMT Quote matt45710 saidJust shows that America for the most part doesn't care what you do in bed. I couldn't disagree more. Look how US politicians get scraped aross the coals for affairs, prostitution scandals, or for coming out? (Bill Clinton, Spitzer, and McGreevey, respectively)
jaydub Posts: 586	Aug 26, 2008 1:16 AM GMT Quote I dunno... ask Hallmark how it's doing for them?
drakutis Posts: 397	Aug 26, 2008 1:20 AM GMT Quote matt45710 saidWell, there is precedent for this. Last year, they did have a show dance of Steve Guttenberg dancing with Jonathan Roberts. Granted, it would be difficult to judge two guys dancing verses man-woman couples. I think in many ways this is like gay male actors playing straight roles in movies. Just shows that America for the most part doesn't care what you do in bed. That was cute!!! I missed that one!! I will be watching because Susan Lucci is on and Toni Braxton as well!
jakebenson Posts: 720	Aug 26, 2008 1:32 AM GMT Quote Bunjamon saidMiddle America is not ready to see two men dancing on prime-time television. That would not fly at all. I say we cut out the Middle of America and paste it alongside the Middle East. I'd love to see how those two would get along.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 26, 2008 2:17 AM GMT Quote Timberoo saidWould Lance be the man or woman? ... You coulda just gone with "Would Lance be the leader or the followers?"
makeumyne Posts: 190	Aug 26, 2008 2:24 AM GMT Quote It is a shame that middle America- or middle anywhere- is not exposed to this sort of thing, because they'll never get used to it if they don't see it. Two male partners did very well in an Australian TV dancing competition, but it was on the ABC, so not many people watched it sadly.
blink777 Posts: 499	Aug 26, 2008 2:31 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 said Timberoo saidWould Lance be the man or woman? ... You coulda just gone with "Would Lance be the leader or the followers?" Actually, "man" and "woman" are the technical terms for dance, in terms of steps and positions. You'll rarely hear "leader" or "follower" as it is misleading (there are a number of dances where there is a shared leadership--but still distinct steps/etc for the "man" and "woman", and even some points in certain dances where the woman will lead the dance [some Argentine Tangos have sections like this]). Granted, I've never even thought to take into account two men dancing in ballroom. Still, PC overdose <<;.
matt45710 Posts: 719	Aug 26, 2008 2:32 AM GMT Quote Bunjamon said matt45710 saidJust shows that America for the most part doesn't care what you do in bed. I couldn't disagree more. Look how US politicians get scraped aross the coals for affairs, prostitution scandals, or for coming out? (Bill Clinton, Spitzer, and McGreevey, respectively) Well, I agree about the politician part, but if there's no power involved, I don't think they care much. I was just in Bangor, Maine for the weekend (hardly a liberal stronghold), and my two friends were walking hand in hand, and kissing in public, and it was no big deal. Things are changing.
looknrnd Posts: 431	Aug 26, 2008 2:36 AM GMT Quote The thought of him dancing with a male never even crossed my mind. FIRST, they dance with a professional and the pairing would be quite off as each partner has to be used to dancing with a certain type of person. Women and men dance differently and have to fit. If he did dance with a man, they both would need extra points for the training it required. SECOND, America just isn't ready, nor will it be ready anytime soon, for something as intimate as dancing between two men on a major network primetime show every episode (should he last that long).
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 26, 2008 2:38 AM GMT Quote blink777 said< Actually, "man" and "woman" are the technical terms for dance, in terms of steps and positions. <;. Oh piss on that....why do you think those are the terms???? ...Cuz only "men and woman" dance together. At our dance bar, it is leader and follower.. As we step up on the dance floor, the question is "do you want to lead or follow?"...not "do you want to be the man or woman"
geras Posts: 88	Aug 26, 2008 2:39 AM GMT Quote I don't see what is offensive. Rules are man leads, woman submits and follows. I didn't write the rules I just enjoy them. Seriously and strangely though, I don't mind following women, but I would find submitting to a man emasculating and wouldn't tolerate it. Plus I feel more comfortable dancing with a woman and having different sexes while dances is a right mixture for good ascetics. So I understand why he would to have a female partner.
blink777 Posts: 499	Aug 26, 2008 2:43 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 said blink777 said< Actually, "man" and "woman" are the technical terms for dance, in terms of steps and positions. <;. Oh piss on that....why do you think those are the terms???? ...Cuz only "men and woman" dance together. At our dance bar, it is leader and follower.. As we step up on the dance floor, the question is "do you want to lead or follow?"...not "do you want to be the man or woman" To take a page out of your book: Read past the first line. "You'll rarely hear "leader" or "follower" as it is misleading (there are a number of dances where there is a shared leadership--but still distinct steps/etc for the "man" and "woman", and even some points in certain dances where the woman will lead the dance [some Argentine Tangos have sections like this])."
Sean_85 Posts: 1017	Aug 26, 2008 2:44 AM GMT Quote Ugh... Lance..
wrkoutbud30 Posts: 441	Aug 26, 2008 2:46 AM GMT Quote I dont care about him...I just cant get over that they are going to have Cloris Leachman dance! I totally remember her being Mrs. Garrets sis on the Facts of Life..Beverly Ann! How old is she now?
AshLeon Posts: 148	Aug 26, 2008 2:47 AM GMT Quote Maybe no other male wanted to dance with him?
nikeathlete Posts: 65	Aug 26, 2008 2:48 AM GMT Quote Steve's partner Anna Trebunskaya was sick that night. Jonathan had to dance with Steve because the judges wanted to see an encore. Jonathan and Anna are married and he learned the choreography in a day. So, that is why you have two men dancing that night. Lance Bass has an awesome partner in Lacey Schwimmer. She came in fourth on Season Three of So You Think You Can Dance. She rocks. Her brother won Season Two. Lance should have no problem winning. yeah....I watch reality t.v......so what.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 26, 2008 2:50 AM GMT Quote blink777 saidYou'll rarely hear "leader" or "follower" as it is misleading (there are a number of dances where there is a shared leadership--but still distinct steps/etc for the "man" and "woman", and even some points in certain dances where the woman will lead the dance [some Argentine Tangos have sections like this])." That is still offensively based on just men and women dance together! Let it be Dancer 1 and Dancer 2, when leader and follower wont apply.
blink777 Posts: 499	Aug 26, 2008 2:51 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 saidThat is still offensively based on just men and women dance together! Let it be Dancer 1 and Dancer 2, when leader and follower wont apply. Whatever, just not "leader" and "follower".
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 26, 2008 2:56 AM GMT Quote blink777 said Caslon6000 saidThat is still offensively based on just men and women dance together! Let it be Dancer 1 and Dancer 2, when leader and follower wont apply. Whatever, just not "leader" and "follower". Top and Bottom??? ....just not man and woman
blink777 Posts: 499	Aug 26, 2008 2:59 AM GMT Quote Caslon6000 saidTop and Bottom??? ....just not man and woman
MunchingZombi... Posts: 2095	Aug 26, 2008 3:29 AM GMT Quote While we are at it, why not change the name of male/female connectors? Well electronics ever be the same?
a1972guy Posts: 1942	Aug 26, 2008 3:44 AM GMT Quote Who cares! It's JUST dancing! What about Neil Patrick Harris playing a straight guy sleeping with women on the show??? It's called acting, so who cares!
groundcombat Posts: 220	Aug 26, 2008 3:53 AM GMT Quote a1972guy saidWho cares! It's JUST dancing! What about Neil Patrick Harris playing a straight guy sleeping with women on the show??? It's called acting, so who cares! Furthermore, Neil Patrick Harris plays Neil Patrick Harris as a straight man in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay. Go figure that one out.
a1972guy Posts: 1942	Aug 26, 2008 3:58 AM GMT Quote groundcombat said a1972guy saidWho cares! It's JUST dancing! What about Neil Patrick Harris playing a straight guy sleeping with women on the show??? It's called acting, so who cares! Furthermore, Neil Patrick Harris plays Neil Patrick Harris as a straight man in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay. Go figure that one out. EXACTLY!!!
Hiker98 Posts: 93	Aug 26, 2008 4:10 AM GMT Quote I think Lance is hot...he danced great when he was with N'Sync and I'm sure he'll dance fine with a WOMAN! And I'd watch if he danced with another man, too....and yes, I'm from the heartland and would love to see a gay man dance with another gay. Instead of cutting out the heartland and moving it to the middle east, maybe one should look at the "left" coast. Isn't that where the TV producers and executives call the shots? The last time I checked my map Hollywood was in California. Sounds hypocritical to me: The so-called "open-minded" producers who call the shots, won't broadcast it on network TV to us guys in the heartland who are dying to see another gay man dance with another man. If gay men can kiss on day time soap operas, then I don't see a problem.
a1972guy Posts: 1942	Aug 26, 2008 4:22 AM GMT Quote Hiker98 saidThe last time I checked my map Hollywood was in California. Sounds hypocritical to me: The so-called "open-minded" producers who call the shots, won't broadcast it on network TV to us guys in the heartland who are dying to see another gay man dance with another man. If gay men can kiss on day time soap operas, then I don't see a problem. Um, they have to cater to the masses/majority of the TV watchers....
art_smass Posts: 822	Aug 26, 2008 4:24 AM GMT Quote wrkoutbud30How old is she now? She's eighty-two! I'm so excited to see Nurse Diesel/Frau Blucher dance, that I can't even think about Lance Bass.
CuriousJockAZ Posts: 2286	Aug 26, 2008 4:31 AM GMT Quote I think it's very cool. It would actually be kind of embarassing if he were dancing with a guy on "Dancing With The Stars" -- just isn't the right venue for that -- but I think it's awesome that he is doing it, and he will probably do very well.
terryf Posts: 115	Aug 26, 2008 8:18 AM GMT Quote nikeathlete said Lance Bass has an awesome partner in Lacey Schwimmer. She came in fourth on Season Three of So You Think You Can Dance. She rocks. Her brother won Season Two. Lance should have no problem winning. yeah....I watch reality t.v......so what. Lacey is so hot & talented,my fav that season.
Hidden/Deleted Member	Aug 26, 2008 8:52 AM GMT Quote jakebenson said allencommon saidLance Bass who stated he doesn't want to be a gay role model will be dancing with a female versus a male on The ABC hit show, D a n c i n g With The S t a r s. I'm disappointed. Your thoughts? Wtf is dancing with the stars? I love you.
26mileman Posts: 594	Aug 28, 2008 5:41 AM GMT Quote Hmm....eventually people will have to get used to seeing men dance together but I can understand if Lance doesn't want to be the first, ( not sure if it was his choice or the producers). The first time I went into a gay bar, it really bothered me to see men dancing together. I can understand the unspoken awkwardness and it will take someone with shameless confidence to initiate such action. Can't wait to see Cloris Leechman, a.k.a. Phyllis. Maybe Phyllis' gay brother could dance with Lance.
muchmorethanm... Posts: 2767	Aug 28, 2008 5:57 AM GMT Quote matt45710 saidWell, there is precedent for this. Last year, they did have a show dance of Steve Guttenberg dancing with Jonathan Roberts. I think they tried to make it a point to not take the dancing as serious as if they had been dancing with someone of the opposite sex. I didn't like watching those two because they were obviously clowning around.
muchmorethanm... Posts: 2767	Aug 28, 2008 6:00 AM GMT Quote Oh and for the record, in Argentina the "Mango" as it was labeled in the video is a very common practice among dancers in Argentina. This is usually the only way men can practice to become exceptional dancers is by trading off and either doing the feminine and masculine roles of the dance. It has nothing to do with sexuality, however. It's all about the dance.
JonathanJ Posts: 41	Aug 28, 2008 11:50 AM GMT Quote Please. "Leader" and "Follower" are a whole lot more acceptable than "man" and "woman". The leader/follower terms are accurate, as well. For the most part, the leader does just that. And, seriously, geras, you wouldn't follow a male lead because you find it emasculating?? You're kidding, right?
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Aug 28, 2008 12:37 PM GMT Quote Caslon6000 said Timberoo saidWould Lance be the man or woman? ... You coulda just gone with "Would Lance be the leader or the followers?" lighten up
islandofisle Posts: 88	Aug 28, 2008 12:44 PM GMT Quote Can a choreographer come up with a dance where they co-lead or switch the leading role during a dance?
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 28, 2008 12:51 PM GMT Quote Timberoo said Caslon6000 said Timberoo saidWould Lance be the man or woman? ... You coulda just gone with "Would Lance be the leader or the followers?" lighten up hey, dont be telling me what to do. oh, I'm sorry ...maybe your new diet is making your cranky, bless your heart
GuyNextDoorOh... Posts: 214	Aug 28, 2008 1:11 PM GMT Quote jakebenson said allencommon saidLance Bass who stated he doesn't want to be a gay role model will be dancing with a female versus a male on The ABC hit show, D a n c i n g With The S t a r s. I'm disappointed. Your thoughts? Wtf is dancing with the stars? It's a show that little old ladies watch. Why not just pair him with a really good drag queen? Then those in "middle America" will think he's dancing with a woman, but those guys who care who he's dancing with will "really know" he's dancing with a guy.
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Aug 28, 2008 1:37 PM GMT Quote Caslon6000 said Timberoo said Caslon6000 said Timberoo saidWould Lance be the man or woman? ... You coulda just gone with "Would Lance be the leader or the followers?" lighten up hey, dont be telling me what to do. oh, I'm sorry ...maybe your new diet is making your cranky, bless your heart
Hagan_F Posts: 175	Aug 28, 2008 1:39 PM GMT Quote He should have his homosexual license revoked and be forced to go straight!
Ducky44 Posts: 874	Aug 28, 2008 1:41 PM GMT Quote You have got to be joking! Of course he's going to paired with woman. Get real. I have seen the male on male ballroom dancing .I had a much better time watching traditional partners it was painful watching two men in suits. Dance is all about clean lines and angles and technique between a male and female partner. When bring a softness and pure femininity to dance with her male partner that two men just can’t duplicate.
dakuk Posts: 515	Aug 28, 2008 2:20 PM GMT Quote i think i'm not a very good gay as whilst i love to see guys dancing in clubs i find watching two men doing old fashioned social dancing makes me vomit ever so slightly. sorry
gsh1964 Posts: 54	Aug 28, 2008 2:26 PM GMT Quote This thread got WAY too long to read. Not sure if anyone said this or not, but here I go. Oh well, so what? At least we have an openly gay man on the show. That's still one step closer to the right direction.
Caslon7000 Posts: 7951	Aug 28, 2008 2:28 PM GMT Quote oh puleeeeeeeeeeeeeze!....male-female is just what we are used to I can tell you how shocking it was to see african-americans showing up on on TV, especially commercials, years ago. It really got one's attention. Now nobody notices.
Timberoo Posts: 2810	Aug 28, 2008 4:00 PM GMT Quote The real issue is, who cares about Lance Bass?
CuriousJockAZ Posts: 2286	Aug 28, 2008 4:03 PM GMT Quote His partner is going to be Lacey Schwimmer (Benj's sister) who was a runner up 2 seasons ago on "So You Think You Can Dance", so I think he will have a solid chance of doing really well, as Lacey is an amazing dancer.
auryn Posts: 1584	Aug 28, 2008 4:32 PM GMT Quote CuriousJockAZ saidHis partner is going to be Lacey Schwimmer (Benj's sister) who was a runner up 2 seasons ago on "So You Think You Can Dance", so I think he will have a solid chance of doing really well, as Lacey is an amazing dancer. ooooooo I just might have to watch. Lacey was fun! That might mean we'll see more of her handsome brother, the closet case!
muchmorethanm... Posts: 2767	Aug 28, 2008 4:36 PM GMT Quote Ducky44 saidYou have got to be joking! Of course he's going to paired with woman. Get real. I have seen the male on male ballroom dancing .I had a much better time watching traditional partners it was painful watching two men in suits. Dance is all about clean lines and angles and technique between a male and female partner. When bring a softness and pure femininity to dance with her male partner that two men just can’t duplicate. I think someone hasn't allowed himself to keep an open mind and has allowed himself to be pressured into thinking that efforts shared between two people of the opposite genders is "better."
islandofisle Posts: 88	Aug 28, 2008 4:49 PM GMT Quote Auryn said CuriousJockAZ saidHis partner is going to be Lacey Schwimmer (Benj's sister) who was a runner up 2 seasons ago on "So You Think You Can Dance", so I think he will have a solid chance of doing really well, as Lacey is an amazing dancer. ooooooo I just might have to watch. Lacey was fun! That might mean we'll see more of her handsome brother, the closet case! oooooo Lacey <3
islandofisle Posts: 88	Aug 28, 2008 4:51 PM GMT Quote double post ftw~ pasha from SYTYCD season 3 taught gay couples for ballroom dancing they should totally try it
26mileman Posts: 594	Oct 07, 2008 3:26 AM GMT Quote Never really thought much of Lance Bass before but after hearing him speak and his playful bantor; I think i have a little old t.v. crush on him.
cowboyo Posts: 355	Oct 08, 2008 5:25 AM GMT Quote so did any of you all see lance and his partner Lacy do their "I Kissed a Girl" number? And he did, at the end. It was a pretty good joke. The first week his partner mentioned that she had a crush on him in the boy band days, and always wanted to marry him. "Guess that's not gonna happen!" she joked.

sexysamer Posts: 1762	Oct 08, 2008 5:44 AM GMT Quote Lance Bass is cute guy and everybody know he is gay. I don't see there is a problem that he doesn't want to be a gay role model dancing with gay guy. People who watch the Dancing with the Stars are mostly heterosexual.

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