My new bumper stickers

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    Aug 26, 2008 3:10 AM GMT
    taxnspenddem.bmp

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    Repugnicans like to categorize Dems as "tax and spend," while their mode of financing is to pretend they can spend, spend, spend and yet have it not cost the taxpayers anything.
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    Aug 26, 2008 5:14 AM GMT
    Oooh. I like that.
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    Aug 26, 2008 10:32 AM GMT
    Very fun, and true!.... you need to print up some of those icon_biggrin.gif
  • GQjock

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    Aug 26, 2008 10:39 AM GMT
    Order me one Cas icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 26, 2008 10:41 AM GMT
    I would want one if i had a car
  • Hunter9

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    Aug 26, 2008 2:28 PM GMT
    ok. its true, but what does that accomplish? you think that's all of a sudden going to convince republicans to turn against their party?
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    Aug 26, 2008 4:42 PM GMT
    I actually made them up on Bumperart.com

    https://www.bumperart.com/Custom.aspx?ProductId=105296
  • EricLA

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    Aug 26, 2008 4:45 PM GMT
    I like it! I should get one, too. I was a Republican my first few years as a registered voter. I voted George Sr. into office and was quickly disappointed in how he and other moderates sold their soul to the Religious Right. I can understand fiscal conservativism. And Hunter, to your point, if you think fiscal conservatives are happy with their party right now, you'd be wrong. Bush's policies have been an abject failure, and McCain's policies show no sign of changing course. Obama just needs to make a stronger case as to why he's a better choice to give fiscal conservatives a choice.
  • Timbales

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    Aug 26, 2008 4:46 PM GMT
    If either party truly cared about the US, we'd be in a much better place than we are now.
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    Aug 26, 2008 4:46 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidok. its true, but what does that accomplish? you think that's all of a sudden going to convince republicans to turn against their party?

    Not die-hard republicans obviously....but the vast majority of people are independents. And ya never know when something like this may sway someone. ...I call it "Proselytizing, one stop light at a time!"
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 26, 2008 4:55 PM GMT
    Excellent.. right on point!
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    Aug 26, 2008 5:07 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidIf either party truly cared about the US, we'd be in a much better place than we are now.

    Actually, IMHO, it's not the parties...it is us.

    pogo.bmp

    Politicians only do what the people want. Cuz if they dont, they are out of office. Unfortunately, the people dont always want what's good for them. They want services and everything else, but dont want to pay for them. So politicians promise ya everything and then pay for it by borrowing, rather than raising taxes, cuz then people dont see that they are paying more.

    Actually, our government has gotten worse and is liked less by people since about the '60s when Sunshine laws started to be enacted. It was thought that having every activity of the gov't open to public scrutiny would make things better. In fact, it has made it so that politicians have no where to deliberate on a topic. Everything they say is exposed to immediate public scrutiny so they dont dare utter a word that isn't vetted for public consumption (Think McCain and the question of how many houses he owns. The man was scared to utter an honest answer.)

    There can be such a thing as too much democracy. A point at which the whims of the people get in the way of wise governing.

    An interesting example of this is India and China...both are developing countries with huge populations of poor people. China will be able to take a much "cleaner" route to development, because the gov't can just order things to be done without having to take public opinion into account. Whereas, India has to go thru the messy democratic process and is hampered at times by the unwise demands of the public.
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    Aug 26, 2008 5:53 PM GMT
    Caslon6000 said
    Timberoo saidIf either party truly cared about the US, we'd be in a much better place than we are now.

    Actually, IMHO, it's not the parties...it is us.

    pogo.bmp

    Politicians only do what the people want. Cuz if they dont, they are out of office. Unfortunately, the people dont always want what's good for them. They want services and everything else, but dont want to pay for them. So politicians promise ya everything and then pay for it by borrowing, rather than raising taxes, cuz then people dont see that they are paying more.

    Actually, our government has gotten worse and is liked less by people since about the '60s when Sunshine laws started to be enacted. It was thought that having every activity of the gov't open to public scrutiny would make things better. In fact, it has made it so that politicians have no where to deliberate on a topic. Everything they say is exposed to immediate public scrutiny so they dont dare utter a word that isn't vetted for public consumption (Think McCain and the question of how many houses he owns. The man was scared to utter an honest answer.)

    There can be such a thing as too much democracy. A point at which the whims of the people get in the way of wise governing.

    An interesting example of this is India and China...both are developing countries with huge populations of poor people. China will be able to take a much "cleaner" route to development, because the gov't can just order things to be done without having to take public opinion into account. Whereas, India has to go thru the messy democratic process and is hampered at times by the unwise demands of the public.


    I both agree and disagree. The two parties are so entrenched it would take a major disaster to shake them loose.
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    Aug 26, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidI both agree and disagree. The two parties are so entrenched it would take a major disaster to shake them loose.

    Well, to keep their seats, politicians and their parties have become like Madison Avenue marketers in their ability to pinpoint their demographic audience. ...Karl Rove, in particular, drove this kind of politicking. ...Now parties know just want makes each of their demgraphics jump and get to the polls, etc. They can play the people like a violin. This has eliminated the middle ground. ...There is no middle in politics anymore...there is no compromise...you either win or you lose.