Drone pilots.

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    Sep 30, 2012 2:11 AM GMT
    Most people know what "drones" are...unmanned aircraft.

    What many don't know is these drones are controlled by actual people, in actual cockpits, remotely linked to the systems and video cameras that are installed on the actual aircraft.

    This will soon be the future of commercial travel...including space travel. There will be no pilot physically onboard an aircraft, with the exception of small/general aviation. And even that will have more automated systems to aid the pilot in making safer decisions, which much of that technology already exists for under two thousand bucks. It used to be 100's of thousands and more.

    For the skeptics who don't like this idea, remember, people tend to make more accurate decisions when NOT under pressure. If the plane you're on fucks up, the pilot will be making decisions in the safety of an off-site location...not making life-or-death decisions while under the pressure of saving his/her own ass first. The pilot's ass is already saved. Now s/he can concentrate on everyone else.

    In other news, I recently read an article in an aviation rag (don't remember the name) about needing drone pilots, for $80K+/year. With my experience, I'd likely start at 100K+. But fuck that. They don't pay enough for me to sit in an office with no view, when I could be paid 20% less and have a view that VERY FEW people will ever get to see...unless I take pics. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 30, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    $80K? Where do I sign up? I've got 10+ years experience flying planes on a computer screen!

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    Sep 30, 2012 5:28 AM GMT
    snot-nosed kids who've been playing video games since the womb are probably getting all of those jobs.

    anyway, my college roommates are all working for general dynamics, trying to make those things autonomous. I keep taking them to see "Terminator," but they just don't get it.
  • galant506

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    Sep 30, 2012 8:18 AM GMT
    Highly unlikely to happen "soon".

    Drones currently in service don't carry any passengers at all and the aircraft body itself is somewhat disposable should something go wrong. I believe the reason they are unmanned is due to the high chance of them being shot down, not for any cost savings or because someone thinks the pilots will do a better job remotely.

    The step from a little surveillance aircraft to commercial aircraft with hundreds of people on board is a huge one for remotely controlled or automated aircraft. If not for technology, public perception will keep it at bay as has happened with driver-less trains which have existed for almost fifty years, yet have failed to become mainstream despite operating successfully at a commercial level for all that time.
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    Sep 30, 2012 8:59 AM GMT
    xrichx said$80K? Where do I sign up? I've got 10+ years experience flying planes on a computer screen!

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    http://www.aviationschoolsonline.com/faqs/uav-pilot-salary.php
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    Sep 30, 2012 9:01 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidsnot-nosed kids who've been playing video games since the womb are probably getting all of those jobs.

    anyway, my college roommates are all working for general dynamics, trying to make those things autonomous. I keep taking them to see "Terminator," but they just don't get it.
    It takes lots of training to fly a drone, and you have to already be a "real" pilot.

    Then again, most pilots I know are snot-nosed kids who play video games all the time. icon_lol.gif
  • FitGwynedd

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    Sep 30, 2012 10:24 AM GMT
    Highly unlikely, lets not forget that with any vehicle, bus or aircraft, you need to be able to feel the forces affecting the vehicle, such as turbulence or windshear, and there is no way to this without a pilot onboard.
  • Pepsic0la

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    Sep 30, 2012 10:25 AM GMT
    FitGwynedd saidHighly unlikely, lets not forget that with any vehicle, bus or aircraft, you need to be able to feel the forces affecting the vehicle, such as turbulence or windshear, and there is no way to this without a pilot onboard.



    Those are all calculated by sensors.
  • Pepsic0la

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    Sep 30, 2012 10:29 AM GMT
    As someone who is in the Air Force, and has worked very closely with UAV'S (REAPER, PREDATOR, and other classified aircraft) there's is alot you are wrong about. You would not get 100k with whatever exp you have. There are people WITHOUT degrees making a 35k military salary and flying UAV's. the officer's, making roughly 55k a year are nearly there to hit the 'launch' key for the missiles while the enlisted pilot the aircraft.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Sep 30, 2012 10:34 AM GMT
    Pepsic0la said
    FitGwynedd saidHighly unlikely, lets not forget that with any vehicle, bus or aircraft, you need to be able to feel the forces affecting the vehicle, such as turbulence or windshear, and there is no way to this without a pilot onboard.



    Those are all calculated by sensors.


    So is electronic stability control on your car. And if you rely on electronic stability control to keep you from crashing during inclement weather you shouldn't be allowed to drive anything besides a pedal car.
  • Pepsic0la

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    Sep 30, 2012 10:37 AM GMT
    FitGwynedd said
    Pepsic0la said
    FitGwynedd saidHighly unlikely, lets not forget that with any vehicle, bus or aircraft, you need to be able to feel the forces affecting the vehicle, such as turbulence or windshear, and there is no way to this without a pilot onboard.



    Those are all calculated by sensors.


    So is electronic stability control on your car. And if you rely on electronic stability control to keep you from crashing during inclement weather you shouldn't be allowed to drive anything besides a pedal car.


    Do you realize all military and commercial pilots do nowadays is just takeoff and land planes? There really is no pilot controlled flying nowadays. hell. alot of planes have the (very old) technology to land and take off autonomusly already.
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    Sep 30, 2012 4:04 PM GMT
    One day at a NASA center, someone showed me the touch-down skid marks at the end of the runway. They were kind of scattered around, but there was a huge solid block of them in the dead center. (He said) that's the difference between piloted landings and robotic landings. Interesting story, if true.
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    Sep 30, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    xrichx said$80K? Where do I sign up? I've got 10+ years experience flying planes on a computer screen!

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    http://www.aviationschoolsonline.com/faqs/uav-pilot-salary.php


    hahaha I have fs2002, fs2004, and FSX!
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    Sep 30, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
    I actually like the idea of a man or woman whose fate is linked to my own. Nothing like dying in a crash to motivate a pilot to do good works on my behalf.
  • mustangd

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    Sep 30, 2012 6:07 PM GMT
    whatever happened with the program of the drone that the iranians brought down? last i read, they were taking all the aircraft and mothballing them. there is much left untold about that event. while using unmanned aircraft for extremely dangerous missions is practical, i doubt the wisdom of an all unmaned aircraft program, it seems the drones can be hijacked by remote control. the idea of a strike aircraft being turned is a dangerous concept.
    for cargo flights, its seems very practical.
    for passenger aircraft, i'd prefer a pilot onboard, perhaps backed up by remote control, for the same reason as the above military observation, theoretically, any passenger aircraft without a pilot could be brought down by a hi-tech hacker. this could include any or all aircraft in the sky.
    there is a reason for the term " souls onboard", lets have a soul upfront driving the bus.
  • bischero

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    Sep 30, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidFor the skeptics who don't like this idea, remember, people tend to make more accurate decisions when NOT under pressure.



    Not quite... you should read How We Decide by Jonah Lehrer. Our brains need to be emotional and actually some of our best decision making happens in high pressure situations. Even if you're not a neuro person, the book is still a great read. icon_smile.gif