Petition for a jail sentence for not getting tested.

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    Oct 02, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
    http://signon.org/sign/make-it-a-crime-for-not
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    Oct 02, 2012 7:53 PM GMT
    This is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 02, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    fable said
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
    calibro said
    TerraFirma said
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.


    Yes, it is an utterly stupid idea! x 1000000

    Could someone explain who MoveOn.org (the sponsoring organization of Sign On.org) is? The name sounds familiar and sinister.

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    Oct 03, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    calibro said
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    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:41 AM GMT
    What? challenge me and you might wind up in a lot of trouble. First of all, letting the disease run rampant could harm somebody you possibly love. second of all, I'm sure the HIV awareness enthusiasts would disagree with you, furthermore the current laws making HIV transmission a murder charge are only scaring people from getting tested said an article I read so we meed to scare them into getting tested with this one.
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    Oct 03, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
    LitAwake saidWhat? challenge me and you might wind up in a lot of trouble. First of all, letting the disease run rampid could harm somebody you possibly love. second of all, I'm sure the HIV awareness enthusiasts would disagree with you, furthermore the current laws making HIV transmission a murder charge are only scaring people from getting tested said an article I read so we meed to scare them into getting tested with this one.

    Try making sense every now and then.
    Just exactly why would knowingly transmitting what could be a deadly disease NOT be a charge of at least assault? If people are fearful about getting tested, that is probably based more on the lack of any sort of support and healthcare for people who could be left out in the cold with a positive result. Plus, well, what the hell is rampid?
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    Oct 03, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    Try making sense every now and then.
    Just exactly why would knowingly transmitting what could be a deadly disease NOT be a charge of at least assault? If people are fearful about getting tested, that is probably based more on the lack of any sort of support and healthcare for people who could be left out in the cold with a positive result. Plus, well, what the hell is rampid?[/quote] icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif

    +1
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    LitAwake saidWhat? challenge me and you might wind up in a lot of trouble. First of all, letting the disease run rampid could harm somebody you possibly love. second of all, I'm sure the HIV awareness enthusiasts would disagree with you, furthermore the current laws making HIV transmission a murder charge are only scaring people from getting tested said an article I read so we meed to scare them into getting tested with this one.

    usually your threads are just oddball and not that serious and people have fun with it. It seems you are taking this one seriously, however. Your logic is just full of fail. You want jail people for not being tested because because of what what they might do. We don't throw people in jail for what they might do. You want to legislate that people be tested every four months and you don't even know if these people are going to have sex, if they are going to have safe sex, or if they are in a monogamous relationship.
    If you are worried about hiv transmission, have safe sex, abstain from sex, or find a monogamous relationship and you can both be tested. I don't think "hiv awareness enthusiasts" (?) would agree with you.

    Even if this is some kind of joke, why would anyone want their name attached to this petition that is being delivered to the U.S. House of Representatives?

    As Paul said, "This is an utterly stupid idea."
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    Oct 03, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
    calibro said
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    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.

    This is an utterly stupid idea.
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    Oct 03, 2012 4:09 AM GMT
    Has anybody mentioned how uttterly stupid this idea is?
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    Oct 03, 2012 10:43 AM GMT
    *scratches head*

    Isn't it already a crime to not disclose your status to someone? I think it falls under the purview of "reckless endangerment".
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    Oct 03, 2012 11:18 AM GMT
    runnerza saidHas anybody mentioned how uttterly stupid this idea is?

    Be glad to: this is an utterly stupid idea.

    And to send this to the Republican US House, which at present is already overflowing with other utterly stupid ideas, is to encourage forcing even more intrusive social conservatism into our lives.
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    Oct 03, 2012 11:41 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis is an utterly stupid idea.


    +1 ..... but try them in Gay Court of public opinion
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:16 PM GMT
    This is a ridiculous. . .

    I highly doubt forcing the fear of imprisonment will make any person more likely to get tested for HIV/AIDS. I think it is important for those having sex to be fully aware of the risk by educating themselves and at minimum use protection/precaution with any sexual partner.

    It's naive to believe that just because the person 'says' that they're negative it doesn't mean they are, or have been tested. I constantly bring this subject up around my friends because a few of them get tested every three months but could have 20 different sexual partners between tests.

    What happens if they test positive? Would you brand them and throw them into an internment camp? If they refused to get tested what jail would we put them in? Jails are already over populated as it is, and with good reason since prisoners have better health care than many Americans.

    I believe that unless there is probable cause that requires a court ordered HIV/AIDS test it is up to the discretion of each individual to get tested. The intentional or reckless infection of a person with HIV is considered to be a crime; however, most countries only criminalize HIV exposure or transmission if a person has been tested for HIV, and know their positive test results, because knowledge of status is a requirement for prosecution.

    Many people chose not to get tested because of fear of criminalization. This is a horrible Idea.


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    Oct 03, 2012 12:46 PM GMT
    Why dont we ban all those religious schools that are afraid to talk about a condom to students cause God is watching. This would be a good start!
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    Oct 03, 2012 12:58 PM GMT
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    Oct 03, 2012 1:15 PM GMT
    zen52 saidThis is a ridiculous. . .

    I highly doubt forcing the fear of imprisonment will make any person more likely to get tested for HIV/AIDS. I think it is important for those having sex to be fully aware of the risk by educating themselves and at minimum use protection/precaution with any sexual partner.

    It's naive to believe that just because the person 'says' that they're negative it doesn't mean they are, or have been tested. I constantly bring this subject up around my friends because a few of them get tested every three months but could have 20 different sexual partners between tests.

    What happens if they test positive? Would you brand them and throw them into an internment camp? If they refused to get tested what jail would we put them in? Jails are already over populated as it is, and with good reason since prisoners have better health care than many Americans.

    I believe that unless there is probable cause that requires a court ordered HIV/AIDS test it is up to the discretion of each individual to get tested. The intentional or reckless infection of a person with HIV is considered to be a crime; however, most countries only criminalize HIV exposure or transmission if a person has been tested for HIV, and know their positive test results, because knowledge of status is a requirement for prosecution.

    Many people chose not to get tested because of fear of criminalization. This is a horrible Idea.




    i don't think internment camps would be necesary once people know their status in jail and are given a resource to find other poz people to have sex With. putting people in jail for failing to show up on time and giving them a test there will help identify the murderers out there and if they give it to someone after they find out they can be put in prison and make the community safer.