Is it "TEBOW TIME" Yet?

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 03, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    Okay, football fans...The calls for Tim Tebow to get moved into starter position QB for The Jets are growing louder and louder with last Sunday's 34-0 trouncing by The 49ers. It appears pretty inevitable that the time is near. Any bets on WHEN this might happen, and what the result might be?

    My bet is that it happens a week after the Texan-Jets game against the Colts. I also think that Tim Tebow will, if nothing else, bring a dearly needed spark to this dismal and beaten down Jets team.
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    Oct 10, 2012 3:39 AM GMT
    First Tebow should never have gone to the Jets who use him as a side show. I think they only care for the guy because he draws media attention, That being said Denver should never had released him.
    Second, Sanchez really and I mean really sucks. He has one of the worst QB ratings in the NFL. He is simply a waste. So it was "Tebow Time" back at game one. Just look at how little the Jets not so brilliant coaching staff used Tebow last night against the Texans. Buddy Ryan's little boy needs to stay in the doughnut shop and OC Tony Soprano should stick to running garbage in North Jersey and running the Bing. Soprano can't tell the difference between Carmela and JJ Watt. Why the hell did they bring him up from Miami I mean he was such as huge success with the Dolphins??? If they had kept Tebow in the series where they ran him a few times when they were in the red zone he would have scored. The Jets would have probably won the game had they had Tebow run the ball more often. And that one pass from Tebow was perfect right on the money and the dumb ass WR drops it. Again a perfect pass from Tebow wasted and another Jets TD not to be. "Tebow Time" will eventually happen, but I'm not sure the Jets deserve him.
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    Oct 10, 2012 3:43 AM GMT
    Yup. Just to keep it interesting.
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Oct 10, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    Hi! It's me!!

    "Tebow Time" will likely happen in September 2013....in Jacksonville.

    I saw something online (think it was the SI website) where it's a done deal--the Jets planned on trading Tebow at the end of this season. Why the Jets ever made the deal for him is anyone's guess, but they are ready to send him packing.

    It makes so much sense for Tebow to be in a Jags uniform next year. He's from the area, Blaine Gabbert is not the answer at quarterback for them, and with Tim back home, he'll but butts in the seats there (and do they ever need butts in the seats). Why the Jags didn't draft him out of good 'ol UF remains a mystery.....

    And, Todd......are you secretly lobbying to get Tebow playing for the Cardinals next year, or sooner????

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    Oct 10, 2012 3:54 AM GMT
    Tebow wouldn't go to the Cardinals. They have Kevin Kolb
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    Oct 10, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    msuNtx saidTebow wouldn't go to the Cardinals. They have Kevin Kolb


    True and since I have followed ZERO football this year, I don't know if Kolb has had a decent start or not. Besides, University of Phoenix Stadium is where Tim brought us home a National Championship.
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    Oct 10, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    Is it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...
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    Oct 10, 2012 3:58 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    msuNtx saidTebow wouldn't go to the Cardinals. They have Kevin Kolb


    True and since I have followed ZERO football this year, I don't know if Kolb has had a decent start or not. Besides, University of Phoenix Stadium is where Tim brought us home a National Championship.


    Cards are 4-1 so Kolb hasn't done too shabby.
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    Oct 10, 2012 4:09 AM GMT
    RadRTT saidIs it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...


    Who knows if he will ever live up to his college billing while in the NFL. He didn't have the best "mechanics" for a quarterback, but all he did was win while at Florida and his charisma was infectious. Shane Matthews, Terry Dean and Jesse Palmer were better UF quarterbacks than Tim, but..........If a contest were held today for "Most Popular Floridian," Tebow wins. Easy.
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    Oct 10, 2012 4:15 AM GMT
    msuNtx said
    turtleneckjock said
    msuNtx saidTebow wouldn't go to the Cardinals. They have Kevin Kolb


    True and since I have followed ZERO football this year, I don't know if Kolb has had a decent start or not. Besides, University of Phoenix Stadium is where Tim brought us home a National Championship.


    Cards are 4-1 so Kolb hasn't done too shabby.


    Kolb has earned me a few unexpected fantasy points that are helping keep me alive in the league. But he's going to fall in fantasy rankings FAST. He's got next to nil pass protection. And you can't really tell if he's a decent QB if he's always laid out. The RBs are going to fatigue throughout the season without an established passing game. I am not by any means resting my season on him, but he's there.
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    Oct 10, 2012 5:08 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RadRTT saidIs it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...


    It also has to do with the fact that he's a hugely positive role model for young people, a humanitarian, and by all accounts an all-around quality guy. He leads by example and people admire this about him. As an athlete, he inspires everyone around him to push a little harder, dig a little deeper, and believe in themselves even when no one else does.


    I know, it's just a little annoying....at least to me lol. I admit he is a great guy who does a lot of work and its nice to have someone like that in the news...
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 11, 2012 2:09 AM GMT
    RadRTT saidIs it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...

    It also has to do with the fact that he's a hugely positive role model for young people, a humanitarian, and by all accounts an all-around quality guy. He leads by example and people admire this about him. As an athlete, he inspires everyone around him to push a little harder, dig a little deeper, and believe in themselves even when no one else does.
    turtleneckjock saidTodd......are you secretly lobbying to get Tebow playing for the Cardinals next year, or sooner????

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    Actually, I will be at MetLife Stadium in NYC December 2nd at The Jets/Cardinals game, sitting on The Jets side, and if Tebow is at QB I will be rooting for him all the way. If he's not at QB, I hope the Cards KICK THEIR ASS!!!! '

    As for Tebow going to the Jags, I would agree that this would have been a marriage made in heaven, but I think if he really wanted to be there he would have been from the get-go. I don't believe a word about The Jets already trading him. His story in NY has yet to really play out, and I suspect that he'll get a shot at some point to Tebow The Jets -- and if/when that happens, and Tebow succeeds, all bets are off. But Tebow going to The Jags -- not gonna happen -- at least not for several years -- or so says the owner of The Jets.
    http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/tim-tebow-absolutely-staying-with-jets-but-woody-johnson-less-solid-on-feelings-about-mark-sanchez.html
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    Oct 11, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RadRTT saidIs it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...

    It also has to do with the fact that he's a hugely positive role model for young people, a humanitarian, and by all accounts an all-around quality guy. He leads by example and people admire this about him. As an athlete, he inspires everyone around him to push a little harder, dig a little deeper, and believe in themselves even when no one else does.
    turtleneckjock saidTodd......are you secretly lobbying to get Tebow playing for the Cardinals next year, or sooner????

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    Actually, I will be at MetLife Stadium in NYC December 2nd at The Jets/Cardinals game, sitting on The Jets side, and if Tebow is at QB I will be rooting for him all the way. If he's not at QB, I hope the Cards KICK THEIR ASS!!!! '

    As for Tebow going to the Jags, I would agree that this would have been a marriage made in heaven, but I think if he really wanted to be there he would have been from the get-go. I don't believe a word about The Jets already trading him. His story in NY has yet to really play out, and I suspect that he'll get a shot at some point to Tebow The Jets -- and if/when that happens, and Tebow succeeds, all bets are off. But Tebow going to The Jags -- not gonna happen -- at least not for several years -- or so says the owner of The Jets.
    http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/tim-tebow-absolutely-staying-with-jets-but-woody-johnson-less-solid-on-feelings-about-mark-sanchez.html


    Well, Todd...for once....ONCE...you are correct. There isn't a single Floridian that has a bad word for Tim Tebow. Sure, the Jesus Freak bit gets mighty old in a hurry, however, the kid is a good role model and as I said before, Tim is more popular and recognizable than any Floridian--past or present.

    And please note, the Jags aren't the best and brightest in the NFL either. They could have had Tim three years ago with (I think) the 8th pick in the draft that year, but as we know he fell to the Broncos. Money might have been an issue as the contract would have been huge, but they failed to see the return on the investment. As it is now, no one goes to the games there (and when have you heard that happening?), the TV market there is small (we get some Jags games in Orlando, but not many) and the new owner has committed to Jacksonville, but he'll move the team to LA if they get their new stadium built next to the Staples Center there.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 11, 2012 3:13 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidWell, Todd...for once....ONCE...you are correct.

    Awww c'mon Turtleneck --- just once? LOL! I am not giving up on Tebow being the starter for The Jets by mid-season. Now, if what you say is true, and the bigger picture has The Jags possibly moving to L.A. in several years, I could see a Tebow move to The Jags after 2014 when his contract is up with the potential for him to QB the L.A. team. That would make sense.
  • TrentGrad

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    Nov 15, 2012 2:00 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZIt also has to do with the fact that he's a hugely positive role model for young people, a humanitarian, and by all accounts an all-around quality guy. He leads by example and people admire this about him. As an athlete, he inspires everyone around him to push a little harder, dig a little deeper, and believe in themselves even when no one else does.


    Well, that's a rose tinted view of who and what Tim Tebow is...and I hate to rain on your parade on this, but no...he is not "a hugely positive role model for young people."

    For starters, if you've played on a team, you know that you're supposed to have your teammate's backs. And what did Tim do when his rabid fans in Denver put the billboard calling for Kyle Orton's ousting? Nothing. He could've came out in support of his starting QB...but of course the opportunist in him happily sat back and watched as people pressure not only led to Orton's departure from Denver, but his own leap frogging over Brady Quinn into the starting job...which technically at that time, he hadn't earned. He was #3 on the depth chart...Quinn should've been given the time after Orton was gone.

    But for me, as a gay man, the most distressing thing about Tim Tebow...was his association with "Focus on the Family." This is a pro-life, homophobic group that has an allegedly long track record of misrepresenting facts and apparently even supporting the use of conversion therapy for LGBT youth. The reality is that the politics behind "Focus on the Family" is not a secret to people...so that Tim Tebow got into bed with them to do their ad during the Super Bowl...leads me to believe that he generally supports their views.

    Of course he had the chance to set the record straight about his own views regarding homosexuality...but his handler at the time nixed a question that was asked of him.

    So no, I'm sorry...but no, he's not a "hugely positive role model for young people." He has some positive attributes...as do most NFL players on some level or another...but frankly, I think the world can do without a new generation of recruits for "Focus on the Family," don't you?

    Warrick Dunn was a hugely positive role model for young people...compared to him, Tim Tebow doesn't even warrant a glance!!!

    Now having said all of that about Tim Tebow, I do need to say this: what was said about him recently by several of his teammates and coaches apparently with the Jets...was really unfair.

    The summary, if you haven't read the story, can be found here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tim-tebow-terrible-unnamed-jets-teammate-tells-york-130832876--nfl.html

    Obviously I'm not a Tebow fan, but I will give him this: since he's been in NY, he's pretty much said and done everything the Jets have asked of him. For people therefore to come out anonymously, or even if they weren't anonymous, and trash him the way that they did...it was pretty classless, and they should be ashamed of themselves!!!
  • TrentGrad

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    Nov 15, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
    turtleneckjockAnd please note, the Jags aren't the best and brightest in the NFL either. They could have had Tim three years ago with (I think) the 8th pick in the draft that year, but as we know he fell to the Broncos. Money might have been an issue as the contract would have been huge, but they failed to see the return on the investment.


    Actually, the Jags had the 10th pick that year...and yes, Tebow was of course still available. However to be fair, with the exception of Tony Dungy (who I love...but lets face it...he's always been more of a defensive coach) and Jon Gruden, I can't think of ANYONE who was seriously suggesting that Tim Tebow was a good first round pick.

    Indeed, if memory serves, Josh McDaniels shocked everyone by taking him with the 25th pick...as the main thought about him was that he's a great athlete, great leader, but just doesn't have the mechanics for the pro game...and would be a long term work in progress.

    Ironically Denver did get one of the steals in the draft in the 3rd round when they grabbed Eric Decker with the 23rd pick in the 3rd round. Trust me...that really pissed me off because I remember when my Bucs grabbed Arrelious Benn with the 7th pick in the 2nd round...and all I could think of was, what a waste...we should wait and grab Decker in the 3rd or 4th round. I knew he was a solid player because I remembered watching him on the Big Ten network...and being amazed with his hands!

    And the comparison now: Decker has 48 receptions for nearly 600 yards and 7 TD's this year, while Benn has a whopping 4 catches for 26 yards!!!

    But I digress...the Jags waited on Tebow because they didn't think he'd be gone by the 2nd round. No one thought he would, given that Jimmy Clausen, the QB that some were even suggesting might be better than Sam Bradford, was still around.
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    Nov 15, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
    RadRTT saidIs it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...


    Vogue for Jesus? Yeah- I am going to agree. I feel there are better role models in the NFL, such as Andrew Luck, and Chris Kluwe (of course I pick the nerds icon_lol.gif ) but Andrew hasn't stood for something- anything yet, even though I firmly believe he has the ability to influence kids of the next generation to go into math, science and art.
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    Nov 15, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    As an NFL QB Tebow sucks. End of thread. Draw your own conclusions about him as a human being.
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    Nov 15, 2012 2:27 AM GMT
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    RadRTT saidIs it just me or is he just really overrated? I mean I feel like theres just too much press about him...and its not even because hes a good football player..its because he's a huge Christian and hot...


    Vogue for Jesus? Yeah- I am going to agree. I feel there are better role models in the NFL, such as Andrew Luck, and Chris Kluwe (of course I pick the nerds icon_lol.gif ) but Andrew hasn't stood for something- anything yet, even though I firmly believe he has the ability to influence kids of the next generation to go into math, science and art.
    I forgot I wrote in this thread...when I saw you quoted me, I was like what???? lol
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    Nov 15, 2012 2:38 AM GMT
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    turtleneckjockAnd please note, the Jags aren't the best and brightest in the NFL either. They could have had Tim three years ago with (I think) the 8th pick in the draft that year, but as we know he fell to the Broncos. Money might have been an issue as the contract would have been huge, but they failed to see the return on the investment.


    Actually, the Jags had the 10th pick that year...and yes, Tebow was of course still available. However to be fair, with the exception of Tony Dungy (who I love...but lets face it...he's always been more of a defensive coach) and Jon Gruden, I can't think of ANYONE who was seriously suggesting that Tim Tebow was a good first round pick.

    Indeed, if memory serves, Josh McDaniels shocked everyone by taking him with the 25th pick...as the main thought about him was that he's a great athlete, great leader, but just doesn't have the mechanics for the pro game...and would be a long term work in progress.

    Ironically Denver did get one of the steals in the draft in the 3rd round when they grabbed Eric Decker with the 23rd pick in the 3rd round. Trust me...that really pissed me off because I remember when my Bucs grabbed Arrelious Benn with the 7th pick in the 2nd round...and all I could think of was, what a waste...we should wait and grab Decker in the 3rd or 4th round. I knew he was a solid player because I remembered watching him on the Big Ten network...and being amazed with his hands!

    And the comparison now: Decker has 48 receptions for nearly 600 yards and 7 TD's this year, while Benn has a whopping 4 catches for 26 yards!!!

    But I digress...the Jags waited on Tebow because they didn't think he'd be gone by the 2nd round. No one thought he would, given that Jimmy Clausen, the QB that some were even suggesting might be better than Sam Bradford, was still around.


    You are correct. The Jags probably thought Tebow would have fallen to round 2 or 3, but Denver surprised everyone. Still, with the franchise sinking like a stone, no one would have questioned them taking Tim in the first round. It would have been the smartest move they ever made, even if Tebow played to the same mixed results in Jax like he has in Denver and for the Jets. As I have said, he would filled the Gator Bowl a.k.a. the Unknown Internet Bank Stadium to capacity and saved NFL football for North Florida/South Georgia.

    It's evident that Jax cannot support NFL football. They could have sold 90,000 tickets to the recent Florida/Georgia game there and there are probably more people at an Edward Waters College game than watching the Jags play (Yes there is such a place as Edward Waters College in Jax--they are Division III or VIII or something like that---play powerhouse schools like Ava Maria University---look it up).

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  • MadeinMich

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    Nov 15, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    Ok...So he did a Focus on the Family Spot (and everyone knows what they stand for). He still hasn't said anything derogatory against gays. In the Ad his mother and he are clearly just stating an instance in their lives where the choice not to have an abortion worked to their benefit and became a blessing in disguise. I don't recall hearing a single " God Hates Fags" message from that TV spot. I wish a lot of gay men would get off of their high horses and stop persecuting Tebow for one little spot he did to show an alternative toward abortion. As a man I am in no position to speak on abortion, all I am saying is I see the FOTF spot as a man and his mother telling their story point blank.

    Tebow has spoken at numerous christian events where he has had the opportunity to be derogatory against gays in the company of people who would not object to those types of comments. In every instance of this he has not said a negative thing about gays yet. When or if he does I will be the first to call him out.


    As for being a role model, I feel he is a perfect role model for kids. If I had kids I would have them point to his work ethic. He may not be "great" and he knows that. But in various interviews he has stated his desire to work harder to get better. He's a key example of not giving up when you're under adversity but to put your head down to the grind and work harder, be humble, be the first to practice and the last to leave. That is a work ethic that should inspire us all.

    I wish gay men on this site would get off of their high horse persecuting Tebow for his personal faith (a faith that he mainly keeps and expresses to himself). If he looks like a fool thats on him. But please realize you're showing the same narrow-mindedness that a lot of anti gay evangelicals share with their persocution of gays for our lifestyle and beliefs.
  • MadeinMich

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    Jan 14, 2013 5:59 PM GMT
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1484010-tim-tebow-wise-to-respect-jets-and-refrain-from-demanding-trade-or-release


    "Despite doing everything asked of him by the Jets organization and the coaching staff, Tebow was shown little respect, was mislead in terms of playing time and was not given the chance to start when No. 1 QB Mark Sanchez faltered.

    Instead of launching into a public tirade, calling out New York for the team’s obvious mistreatment of the former starting quarterback, Tebow has remained a pillar of strength in the face of adversity and continues to handle himself with class and dignity."



    This is why I love him. Character with a capital C
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    Jan 14, 2013 6:12 PM GMT
    Tebow is gay just like I could tell former NJ Governor Jim McGreevey was gay back when he was still Mayor of Woodbridge, NJ.

    Tebow needs to lose his virginity to another man.
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    Jan 14, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidTebow is gay just like I could tell former NJ Governor Jim McGreevey was gay back when he was still Mayor of Woodbridge, NJ.

    Tebow needs to lose his virginity to another man.


    Yes, to me.
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    Jan 14, 2013 6:47 PM GMT
    MadeinMich saidhttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/1484010-tim-tebow-wise-to-respect-jets-and-refrain-from-demanding-trade-or-release


    "Despite doing everything asked of him by the Jets organization and the coaching staff, Tebow was shown little respect, was mislead in terms of playing time and was not given the chance to start when No. 1 QB Mark Sanchez faltered.

    Instead of launching into a public tirade, calling out New York for the team’s obvious mistreatment of the former starting quarterback, Tebow has remained a pillar of strength in the face of adversity and continues to handle himself with class and dignity."



    This is why I love him. Character with a capital C


    Two reasons Tebow wasnt given playing time when Sanchez was benched:

    1. Tebow had a rib injury that limited his ability to throw.
    2. He'd yet to show he was capable of running the offense in practice.

    As a result, he didn't earn the playing time. It's important to note that he was traded to the Jets, and that the team was under no obligation to guarantee playing time to someone they deemed as their backup QB. Acting like was mislead is a little unfair. Not that I should be surprised though. Bleacher Report is widely considered to be the Us Weekly of sports journalism.