Lawsuit seeks to block California ban on 'gay cure' therapy for children

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    Oct 04, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
    Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, said in a statement. “This outrageous bill [outlawing gay cure therapy for those under 18] makes no exceptions for young victims of sexual abuse who are plagued with unwanted same-sex attraction, nor does it respect the consciences of mental health professionals who work in a church. We are filing suit to defend families, children and religious freedom."

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/02/14186083-lawsuit-seeks-to-block-california-ban-on-gay-cure-therapy-for-children?lite
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    Oct 04, 2012 1:44 PM GMT
    God damn bigots like this.

    I dont know if I believe that early childhood abuse leads to same sex attraction, but instead of sending the child to therapy to deal with the same sex attraction, have they thought of having the therapist talk to the kid about the child abuse?

    Just some food for thought...
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    Oct 04, 2012 2:01 PM GMT
    Reminds me of my two maternal aunts who have been trying to make me see a clairvoyant from Indonesia to exorcise a gay demon out of me ever since I came out to them icon_confused.gif
  • Vaughn

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    Oct 04, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
    The APA is tasked with determining what is abuse... Being that they've determined Conversion Therapy to not work and to be harmful... The task force lists Reaffirmation therapy as the only accepted treatment. Isn't it already technically illegal?
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    Oct 04, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    ArtsyRunner saidReminds me of my two maternal aunts who have been trying to make me see a clairvoyant from Indonesia to exorcise a gay demon out of me ever since I came out to them icon_confused.gif

    I'd like to meet this gay demon. We might have some good times together. Do your aunts have a name, and a way of contacting it?
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    Oct 04, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    ArtsyRunner saidReminds me of my two maternal aunts who have been trying to make me see a clairvoyant from Indonesia to exorcise a gay demon out of me ever since I came out to them icon_confused.gif

    icon_eek.gif The "gay demon."
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    Oct 04, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    Vaughn saidThe APA is tasked with determining what is abuse... Being that they've determined Conversion Therapy to not work and to be harmful... The task force lists Reaffirmation therapy as the only accepted treatment. Isn't it already technically illegal?


    Illegal and not allowed to be performed by therapists are two different things. These organizations are religious based and not under the regulation of the APA.
  • TheBizMan

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    Oct 04, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
    His own claims are "outrageous". But this is not unexpected. Whenever there is one triumph for gays, you should always assume there will be someone out there to try and tear it down.
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    Oct 04, 2012 6:44 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidBrad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, said in a statement. “This outrageous bill [outlawing gay cure therapy for those under 18] makes no exceptions for young victims of sexual abuse who are plagued with unwanted same-sex attraction, nor does it respect the consciences of mental health professionals who work in a church. We are filing suit to defend families, children and religious freedom."

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/02/14186083-lawsuit-seeks-to-block-california-ban-on-gay-cure-therapy-for-children?lite


    This outrageous statement has no comprehension of "treatment" deemed harmful by the medical profession on the one hand, or of helping the victims of abuse on the other. Clearly, a person driven by an agenda and by willful ignorance. He is filing to help abuse continue.
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    Oct 04, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    ART_DECO saidBrad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, said in a statement. “This outrageous bill [outlawing gay cure therapy for those under 18] makes no exceptions for young victims of sexual abuse who are plagued with unwanted same-sex attraction, nor does it respect the consciences of mental health professionals who work in a church. We are filing suit to defend families, children and religious freedom."

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/02/14186083-lawsuit-seeks-to-block-california-ban-on-gay-cure-therapy-for-children?lite

    This outrageous statement has no comprehension of "treatment" deemed harmful by the medical profession on the one hand, or of helping the victims of abuse on the other. Clearly, a person driven by an agenda and by willful ignorance. He is filing to help abuse continue.

    Indeed. As the RJ conservaposse is telling us to vote for US legislators who believe & support this anti-gay voodoo science.
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    Oct 04, 2012 8:55 PM GMT
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    ArtsyRunner saidReminds me of my two maternal aunts who have been trying to make me see a clairvoyant from Indonesia to exorcise a gay demon out of me ever since I came out to them icon_confused.gif

    I'd like to meet this gay demon. We might have some good times together. Do your aunts have a name, and a way of contacting it?


    Hah! Well they really are convinced that I had to drop out of university and other bad stuff that recently happened to me due to . . . my condition.

    Bear in mind that they are very much traditionally-minded Catholics, so their conviction that I must be physically and/or mentally ill stems from an inability to accept certain biological norms in their spiritual experience. But I shouldn't take their humorous attempts at setting me straight (sic) as a joke, since I pity the other gay guys in Malaysia who are not so fortunate to have parents and friends as accepting as mine.

  • groundcombat

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    Oct 04, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    I'm not too sure this bill is even relevant.

    Most "gay cure" therapists are very careful about what they actually claim to offer and none that I've seen claim to actually cure homosexuality. Most instead propose to teach coping and such. I don't think such therapy even falls under that described in the bill but I could be wrong as I originally had this discussion a while ago.

    If it does, I think I agree with the suit. At least in the broad principle of bringing suit against the bill. Maybe not so much the specific claims they've spelled out. It's pretty clear that many religions at the very least forbid acting on homosexual desires and to make care seeking to do that inaccessible seems like a pretty bad First Amendment violation.