House Republicans Caught on Video Refusing to Stay in Session to Create Jobs

  • metta

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    Oct 06, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    House Republicans Caught on Video Refusing to Stay in Session to Create Jobs




    http://www.politicususa.com/house-republicans-refuse-democrats-request-work.html

    "Democrats Rep. Elijah Cummings and Rep. Ruben Hinojosa attempted to stop the House adjournment in order to conduct more work, but the Republicans refused to acknowledge them and instead adjourned the Pro Forma session until Tuesday, Oct 9 at 11 AM, while legislative work will not resume until November 13. In other words, House Republicans denied the Democrats’ request to do further work for the people.

    The pending agenda Republicans are kicking down the road is full of jobs bills, a middle class tax cut, the Violence Against Women Act, deficit reduction/Sequestration, relief for underwater homeowners, and more.

    Watch Democrats Rep. Elijah Cummings and Rep. Ruben Hinojosa seeking recognition:"

  • tazzari

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    Oct 06, 2012 4:28 PM GMT
    The fucking Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Americans or their issues. All they want is POWER.
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    Oct 06, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    bostonsam you're about as much of a democrat as you are a woman.

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  • musclmed

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    Oct 06, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    in a election year this is the standard calendar.

    Nothing new about this. This is complete garbage. Congress usually adjourns for the general election.

  • metta

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    Oct 06, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    bostonsam said
    tazzari saidThe fucking Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Americans or their issues. All they want is POWER.


    It seems every day here I "meet" another radical extreme leftist from my Democratic party.

    Your statement simply makes no sense.

    As for the title of this topic, I would like to remind the author that the House has passed over 30 jobs bills that our leader Harry Reid in the Senate refuses to even allow to come to the floor for a vote.

    So to say that Republicans aren't doing anything about jobs is a lie. Yes, they do have different ideas that we Democrats do, but to put forth these lies is childish, dishonest and frankly makes you look like idiots.




    Republican Jobs Bills Won't Actually Create Jobs, Say Economists

    I don't have time to find the article right now...there was one that I have read that went over each of the Republican so called jobs bills and showed that they would not create very many jobs, if any, even over the long term. They are mainly bills to get rid of environmental regulations and other regulations on businesses with titles that sound like they create jobs.

    Sorry...got to get going. Have a good day gentleman! icon_smile.gif



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/republican-jobs-bills_n_1687647.html?1343129695
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 06, 2012 6:28 PM GMT
    bostonsam said
    metta8 said
    bostonsam said
    tazzari saidThe fucking Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Americans or their issues. All they want is POWER.


    It seems every day here I "meet" another radical extreme leftist from my Democratic party.

    Your statement simply makes no sense.

    As for the title of this topic, I would like to remind the author that the House has passed over 30 jobs bills that our leader Harry Reid in the Senate refuses to even allow to come to the floor for a vote.

    So to say that Republicans aren't doing anything about jobs is a lie. Yes, they do have different ideas that we Democrats do, but to put forth these lies is childish, dishonest and frankly makes you look like idiots.




    Republican Jobs Bills Won't Actually Create Jobs, Say Economists

    I don't have time to find the article right now...there was one that I have read that went over each of the Republican so called jobs bills and showed that they would not create very many jobs, if any, even over the long term. They are mainly bills to get rid of environmental regulations and other regulations on businesses with titles that sound like they create jobs.

    Sorry...got to get going. Have a good day gentleman! icon_smile.gif



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/republican-jobs-bills_n_1687647.html?1343129695



    There is a geniune disagreement over whether they would or would not. But that isn't the issue in this topic, as you've painted Republicans as not wanting to pass jobs legislation in the House when in fact they HAVE passed over 30 bills.

    Even at the height of the difficulties between President Clinton and Newt Gingrich (remember, they shut down the government!), the two sides always recognized that the other side had genuine interest in solving the nation's problems and were working towards solving those problems. Today, it's "Republicans are only interested in power!" and "Republicans refuse to do anything about jobs!" and "Democrats turning the USA into a socialist state!" and "Democrats want to control your life!" and the like.

    It's all nonsense! We need both sides to work together and statements like the title of this topic "House Republicans Caught on Video Refusing to Stay in Session to Create Jobs" is not a step in the right direction.


    The difference is that Obama is black and republicans refuse to work with him because they are racist. Everyone knows this true. No one cany deny it without looking like an idiot.
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    Oct 06, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
    bostonsam said
    tazzari saidThe fucking Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Americans or their issues. All they want is POWER.


    It seems every day here I "meet" another radical extreme leftist from my Democratic party.

    Your statement simply makes no sense.

    As for the title of this topic, I would like to remind the author that the House has passed over 30 jobs bills that our leader Harry Reid in the Senate refuses to even allow to come to the floor for a vote.

    So to say that Republicans aren't doing anything about jobs is a lie. Yes, they do have different ideas that we Democrats do, but to put forth these lies is childish, dishonest and frankly makes you look like idiots.


    Bostonsam:

    Do you work [here] in the district? If so, in what capacity?

    Were you in attendance at this session? If so, which marker where you located?
  • musclmed

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    Oct 06, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
    it still doesn't change the truth. In election years the House adjourns for campaigning .

    So it is intellectually dishonest to say that Republican led House is doing something in anyway shape or form that is not normal.

    Considering both Republican and Democratic members would be all over the country campaigning.

    Facts are facts , the other arguments are just partisan chatter.
  • rnch

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    Oct 06, 2012 8:58 PM GMT
    musclmed saidit still doesn't change the truth. In election years the House adjourns for campaigning .

    So it is intellectually dishonest to say that Republican led House is doing something in anyway shape or form that is not normal.

    Considering both Republican and Democratic members would be all over the country campaigning.

    Facts are facts , the other arguments are just partisan chatter.



    But....you and the other "conversaposse" members here would be raising hell about it if the Democrats were adjourning, and NOT the GOP guys icon_exclaim.gif



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    Oct 06, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
    meninlove said bostonsam you're about as much of a democrat as you are a woman.

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    It might be a woman. We really don't know.
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    Oct 06, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    Congress adjouring is sometimes a good thing. Usually their work makes more laws and regulations, which further burdons and taxes the people. In other words, self-serving, incompetent, phony, corrupt, inept, and/or evil politicians are just screwing things up while in session, unless on the agenda is to repeal something.
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    Oct 06, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    bostonsam said
    tazzari saidThe fucking Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Americans or their issues. All they want is POWER.


    It seems every day here I "meet" another radical extreme leftist from my Democratic party.

    Your statement simply makes no sense.

    As for the title of this topic, I would like to remind the author that the House has passed over 30 jobs bills that our leader Harry Reid in the Senate refuses to even allow to come to the floor for a vote.

    So to say that Republicans aren't doing anything about jobs is a lie. Yes, they do have different ideas that we Democrats do, but to put forth these lies is childish, dishonest and frankly makes you look like idiots.



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  • metta

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    Oct 06, 2012 11:52 PM GMT

    GOP's Claim That House Passed 30 Jobs Bills? Bogus.

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    To make sure they back up their public claims with what might appear to be "fact", they've built a page on the House of Representatives site with a list of their so-called jobs bills, which number 27 and not 30 as the Speaker claims. What follows is a list and a brief explanation of why they are not jobs bills. Feel free to share it widely with your friends who might be inclined to believe Mr. Tobacco Lobbyist Check Distributor without questioning it.

    HR 3630 - The Middle Class Tax Relief & Job Creation Act of 2011 - This bill does indeed extend the "docfix" and unemployment insurance for a year, but with a hefty price.

    In addition to freezing federal workers' pay for three years, it requires issuance of a permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline in advance of the proposed routing by Nebraska, suspends the newly-issued mercury regulations and extends 100% expensing of business equipment (including private jets). Another so-called "jobs bill", HR 1938, was passed giving a November 1, 2011 deadline for the Keystone pipeline.
    With regard to unemployment insurance benefits, it cuts the 99-week maximum down to a 59-week maximum by mid-2012, allow states to drug-test UI recipients, and allow states to reduce state unemployment benefits and substitute federal funds. It also cuts funding for key provisions of the Affordable Care Act coming online, and adds the requirement to welfare payments that EBT cards cannot work in strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos.
    Provisions were included to auction more broadband spectrum and reclassify the 700mhz D Block as public safety broadband use only, which would be a huge payoff to Verizon Wireless lobbyists, who won that block with requirements that it remain open, after Google challenged the auction process.
    It would force Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to pay increased guarantee fees similar in scope to those due from large banks as a part of the Dodd-Frank Act, means-tests unemployment insurance benefits and food stamp programs and increases Federal employees' contributions to their retirement system by 1.5% while freezing pay, so their pensions take a double-whammy.
    Finally, it repeals the new timing rules for estimated corporate tax payments for companies with assets of $1 billion or more so that they can use payments of estimated taxes as a timing tool for fourth quarter profit declarations.
    None of the provisions outlined above create jobs. They called it a jobs act, but it was really just an act.

    HR 1633 - Farm Dust Regulation Prevention Act of 2011

    This bill prevents the EPA from issuing or finalizing regulations revising air quality standards under the Clean Air Act, and excepts farm dust from all references to "particulate matter."

    No jobs there, but if anyone has ever suffered from Valley Fever, they might object to exempting dust, particularly farm dust, from the definition of particulate matter.

    HR 10 - Regulations from the Executive in Need of Scrutiny (REINS) Act of 2011

    Guts the regulation process by mandating that every regulation promulgated by approved by Congress after an onerous submission process, while exempting any Congressional finding from judicial review. Call this one the Carte Blanche For Congress To Kill All Regulatory Authority Bill.

    What it is not: A jobs bill.

    HR 3010 - Regulatory Accountability Act of 2011

    HR 3010 is a modified, somewhat less onerous version of HR 10, setting guidelines for whether any regulations are warranted at all even if called for under a statute. Calling an anti-regulatory statute a jobs bill is a little like calling a half-built bridge infrastructure. So again, not a jobs bill.

    HR 527 - Regulatory Flexibility Improvements Act of 2011

    Ostensibly, HR 527 would reduce regulatory requirements on small businesses by forcing an impact study with specific focus on small business before regulation is adopted. It would limit EPA, OSHA and CFPB regulations while presumably protecting "small" closely-held Subchapter S corporations like Koch Industries. Not a jobs bill.

    HR 3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011

    HR 3012 would expand job immigration beyond current limits by eliminating employment-based immigrant visa caps and raising the percentage of total visas granted to 15% from 7%. For this one, I'll say it IS a jobs bill, but not a jobs bill for American workers. It is the "Elite Immigration Jobs Bill of 2011".

    HR 3094 - Workforce Democracy and Fairness Act

    HR 3094 redefines collective bargaining units and makes significant changes to election procedures, including one intended to intimidate employees: an employer-supplied list of eligible voters with contact information provided by the employee.

    Not a jobs bill. A union-buster bill.

    HR 2930 - Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act

    HR 2930 exempts startups raising less than $1 million in venture capital from small investors from SEC registraiton and oversight.

    Not a jobs bill. An anti-regulatory bill.

    HR 2940 - Access to Capital for Job Creators Act

    HR 2940 repeals prohibitions on solicitation or advertising of a securities offering. It's a companion to HR 2930, and is intended to allow people with no relationship to a startup company to invest in it without any oversight by the SEC. Let's call this and its evil twins HR 2930 and HR 1965 the "Ponzi Scheme Coverup Acts of 2011"

    HR 1965 - Securities Laws Amendment

    HR 1965 changes the shareholder threshhold for SEC registration from 500 to 2000 shareholders. It's not a jobs bill. It's a "hide from the SEC" bill. Its companion, HR 1970, would exempt SEC registration of public offerings under $50 million rather than the current $5 million threshold.

    Many More EPA Acts

    So many they don't deserve to be broken down individually. HR 2273 removes coal ash regulation from the EPA and hands it to the states. HR 2681 would put a legislative stay on cement manufacturing emission standards. HR 2250 would put a legislative stay on EPA boiler MACT rules. HR 2401 would require analysis of all EPA regulations relating to air, waste, water and climate change. HR 2018 would restrict EPA from issuing any revisions to existing water standards or issuing a new standard for a pollutant if the state has already adopted one or there is an existing standard in place. In other words, ignore any new scientific research after an initial standard has been set. HR 2021 amends the Clean Air Act to open oil and gas exploration off the Alaska coast. HR 910 strips the EPA of authority to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, a direct assault on efforts to limit man-made contributions to climate change. HR 872 expands the use of pesticides, fungicides and rodent without EPA approval.

    Many More Oil and Gas Drilling Acts

    There is HR 1231, which would require the Administration to allow offshore oil and gas drilling and exploration in order to meet set domestic production goals, effectively forcing the moratorium on offshore drilling to be lifted to meet goals. HR 1229 requires the Energy Secretary to consider any offshore drilling permits within 30 days of receiving it and provide application denials in writing within 60 days of the application. Another "forced moratorium lift" bill. HR 1230 forces sales of oil leases in the Gulf of Mexico and Outer Continental Shelf of Virginia. It also lifts requirements for environmental impact statements and grandfathers in a 2007 document as authority for environmental impact.

    Special Interest Legislation, or Pandering to Corporate Interests

    HR 1904 proposes an exchange of land so that Resolution Copper, LLC can mine copper on what is now part of the Tonto National Forest.
    HJ Res 37 is a resolution of disapproval on net neutrality.
    HR 2587 prohibits the NLRB from restricting where an employer can locate. This is in response to the NLRB's objection to the Boeing plant relocation to South Car
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    Oct 07, 2012 4:29 AM GMT
    The government doesn't create jobs! It either stays out of the way to let them happen, or it gets in the way and prevents them!
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    Oct 07, 2012 6:56 AM GMT
    bostonsam said
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    tazzari saidThe fucking Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Americans or their issues. All they want is POWER.


    It seems every day here I "meet" another radical extreme leftist from my Democratic party.

    Your statement simply makes no sense.

    As for the title of this topic, I would like to remind the author that the House has passed over 30 jobs bills that our leader Harry Reid in the Senate refuses to even allow to come to the floor for a vote.

    So to say that Republicans aren't doing anything about jobs is a lie. Yes, they do have different ideas that we Democrats do, but to put forth these lies is childish, dishonest and frankly makes you look like idiots.


    Bostonsam:

    Do you work [here] in the district? If so, in what capacity?
    Were you in attendance at this session? If so, which marker where you located?


    ???????

    Are there any Democrats on here besides myself who have a brain? Or are you all just radical extreme leftist parrots?


    It constantly amazed me how anyone can spew nonsensical and baseless rhetoric proving they truly have no idea whatsoever how government operates - why, because, they don't work in it! >lol<

    I guess it is easier to sit back and bark baseless (and often false) opinions instead of rolling up one's sleeve and become involved.
  • rnch

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    Oct 07, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
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    meninlove said bostonsam you're about as much of a democrat as you are a woman.

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    It might be a woman. We really don't know.





    Nahhhhhh.....he/she's just a biotche.



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  • musclmed

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    Oct 07, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
    rnch said
    musclmed saidit still doesn't change the truth. In election years the House adjourns for campaigning .

    So it is intellectually dishonest to say that Republican led House is doing something in anyway shape or form that is not normal.

    Considering both Republican and Democratic members would be all over the country campaigning.

    Facts are facts , the other arguments are just partisan chatter.



    But....you and the other "conversaposse" members here would be raising hell about it if the Democrats were adjourning, and NOT the GOP guys icon_exclaim.gif



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    No not really. Stop lumping people in a group and answer with facts.

    Fyi this forum is more like a metta8 notepad. ( more like a democratic underground paste and repost)

    Its half of what it used to be specifically because of attacks like this one which are baseless and imaginary.