From Windows to Apple

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    Oct 06, 2012 10:32 PM GMT
    My Sony Vaio laptop is broken few days ago. Now I think of buying a Mac book pro, the one with 15 inch. I'm a windows user most of the time. I wonder, if this a good decision. Windows and Apple are two different system. I think I'll have some problem and adjustment working with Apple. But I often heard good things about Apple. My colleague bought a Macbook pro, she was satisfied since then. She didn't regret it and will not use Windows again. Only I dislike Apple for its closed system. It's not like Windows, not every software is compatible with Apple. Normally you'll find a good laptop up to 600 - 700 Euro. Compared to Apple, it's almost 1900 Euro, that's a hell lot of money.

    My question, Is the investment right? Is the transition difficult or not? How's your experience working with Apple? I really appreciate your advices, coz I urgently need a new laptop, can't live without it.

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    Oct 07, 2012 12:42 AM GMT
    I don't a Macbook. The first question I would ask is whether or not the software you need to use is compatible with the Mac. You can always run Windows software on a Mac through a virtual machine or other ways, but that depends on your level of technical expertise.

    Macs are great machines. If I had money to splurge, I'd get one of the new Macbook Pros. It's amazingly powerful and yet still very light. It would be perfect for school/travel. But the prices is a choking point.
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    Oct 07, 2012 3:18 AM GMT
    A computer is a computer. Get whatever makes sense for you. Kinda feel bad for you all in Europe. Seems like computers and computer parts are way more expensive there than they are here in the States. Maybe consider getting a refurbished Macbook direct from Apple? They usually have minor cosmetic defects, but they're fully functional and come with a warranty.
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    Oct 07, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
    Once you go Mac, you never go back
  • Medjai

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    Oct 07, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    drjon2ko saidOnce you go Mac, you never go back


    True this. I'll never use windows again.

    They're worth the money for media and productivity, but if you need compatibility for gamed and such, it'll be no good. But it's an excellent product.
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    Oct 07, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    I own a MacBook Retjna Display

    Ironically I had to switch to Mac because the software I needed was not available for Windows(XCode). I use a lot of software for work and for personal stuff as well from Web Servers to Adobe Master Collection CS6. The only thing I need and it's not available for Mac is Internet Explorer(I'm a Web Dev so I need it for testing) but even for that I got virtual machines which are a better solution.


    Long story short, all the software u use will most likely be available. Macs are by far more stable and safer than Windows, today. A lot of design software is also better optimized for Macs like Adobe Software. I say if you have the money to spend on a Mac, go for it, you won't regret it. You get a beautiful, stable product with an excellent resale value(unlike windows laptops) and also one of the best customer service there is if anything ever goes wrong.
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    Oct 07, 2012 3:48 AM GMT
    Who run the world? MAC!
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    Oct 07, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    90 percent of people who own a mac don't actually need it. it's not to say it's a bad piece of equipment. it's quite nice. but for the cost you have to pay to buy one versus what you actually do with it is pointless. only people who are so invested in conspicuous consumption fall for it.
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    Oct 07, 2012 4:44 AM GMT
    calibro said90 percent of people who own a mac don't actually need it. it's not to say it's a bad piece of equipment. it's quite nice. but for the cost you have to pay to buy one versus what you actually do with it is pointless. only people who are so invested in conspicuous consumption fall for it.


    Macs are a High end product. I do agree with what you're saying when it comes to a Mac Pro( i can build a much better PC for that price) but MacBooks are not really that expensive(excluding the retina Macbook). MacBook Airs for instance are better or equally priced than comparable ultrabooks. iMacs are also pretty well priced compared to others all-in-one. Also anything else you buy that isn't Mac devaluates near 30%+ of what it costed you the moment you walk out the store, in a couple of years you're lucky if you get $300 for a laptop that costed you over $1000. The integration of software and hardware also makes the experience a lot better. OSX alone justifies any price premiums compared to Windows. I use both systems constantly. I have 2 PCs, an iMac and a MacBook Pro Retina. I'm more productive and I have less issues when working with OSX.
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    Oct 07, 2012 5:22 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    drjon2ko saidOnce you go Mac, you never go back


    True this. I'll never use windows again.


    False this. My Windows computer broke a few months bac. I have been using a Mac since and...I can't wait to get back to Windows.

    I love my iPhone and iPad, but I've always hated how restrictive they are. I'm the jailbreaking, customizing type. OSX reminds me also that Steve Jobs was a control freak. Where it works, it works really well -- but it's working we'll the way Jobs and Apple wanted it to work. For many people that's great, because Apple thinks like they do (or want to).

    For me, what Apple considers ease and uniformity of use is maddeningly limiting. I like to customize, I like to tweak, I like to be in control of the inner workings of my computer and its operating system. For that reason, Mac's drive me crazy. It works on an iPhone or iPad where I'm not doing much, but I use my computer for far too much to deal with a Mac computer and it's shackles.

    So. If you're a set it and forget it type person who's just going to surf the net, do some photo/video stuff, write the occasional paper, and play music get a Mac. If you're a tinkerer a gamer, a hacker -- stick with Windows.
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    Oct 07, 2012 5:26 AM GMT
    If you want a 1900 euro facebook/twitter/realjock machine like all the cool girls go mac!
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    Oct 07, 2012 5:35 AM GMT
    I know it's stupid to get into one of these religious threads.

    But many, many times, I've been in on projects where people bring a mixture of laptops.

    The windows users spend a week just trying to get their stuff to work. The mac users actually spend the time working. I'm talking about NASA engineering and National Science Foundation jobs here.
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    Oct 07, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
    I actually use both. I use a 27" iMac (i7 quad core) at home that I primarily use for light weight video editing with iMovie, in addition to the standard use (e-mail, internet, etc). The best tool for this type of work.

    For work, I also primarily use a Dell XPS 15z laptop that I just upgraded to the Windows 8 RTM. I'm primarily a .NET developer nowadays so I use that as my main machine for work. Though the Windows 8 is a different paradigm, once you learn it, it's actually quite efficient as a "desktop" OS. I got annoyed (really annoyed) at first, but once I learned the short cuts, I'm actually faster at navigating than I was with Windows 7. The hard part is unlearning a lifetime of the same navigation and Start Menu mentality.
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    Oct 07, 2012 7:27 PM GMT
    xrichx saidA computer is a computer. Get whatever makes sense for you. Kinda feel bad for you all in Europe. Seems like computers and computer parts are way more expensive there than they are here in the States. Maybe consider getting a refurbished Macbook direct from Apple? They usually have minor cosmetic defects, but they're fully functional and come with a warranty.


    True, the living standard in Europe isn't really cheap. Almost everything is getting expensive, gas price, food, electricity, bus/subway trips, etc. Only our salaries don't rise. Very odd! I miss the old Deutsch Mark.

    Anyway big thank you to all of you guys. icon_smile.gificon_smile.gif

    There were some good advices. I'll think about it. As soon as I buy a new one, I'll inform you.
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    Oct 08, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    calibro said90 percent of people who own a mac don't actually need it. it's not to say it's a bad piece of equipment. it's quite nice. but for the cost you have to pay to buy one versus what you actually do with it is pointless. only people who are so invested in conspicuous consumption fall for it.

    That's a load of bullshit!

    Don't use some broad brush to paint mac users as one type of person.

    Remember your a windows user along with a huge amount of other people so you aren't exactly breaking any molds or going anywhere millions of others haven't been before.

    Some people prefer macs, others prefer windows. Still others they use linux. The thing is though mac users end up being passionate about it.. windows users just tend to throw out crap about mac users.
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    Oct 08, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
    For a laptop, I'd get a MacBook. I can't imagine you'll be doing any hardware swapping and a MacBook tends to last longer with casual users. It's an investment but consider how much you'll be paying in years to come in replacing Windows laptops.

    Desktops are a totally different story. It really isn't worth the money to buy a Mac desktop when a Windows will run more and be less expensive. in this regard, the problems tend to be user created.
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    Oct 08, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    Why do you have to part one way or the other? Use Parallels as I do and I run most of PC applications with my MacBook Pro...so you can still have the stability of a Mac and run your Microsoft applications.


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    Oct 08, 2012 4:21 AM GMT
    i have both. ! for work, and the mac, well, just because its better. I had a hard time ( and still do) with Windows 7... My company is not mac compatable.
    I was always an XP man, it was easier for business... I have office mac, but unless everyone else is mac, it is sorta useless.
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    Oct 08, 2012 4:54 AM GMT
    I was an IBM ThinkPad/Windows person for years. When Vista came out, I got so disillusioned with it that I bought an iBook off of eBay and proceeded to fall in love with OSX. I had a whole string of iBooks/MacBook Pros, PowerMacs & Mac Pros. But, it got to the point where I just couldn't afford the Apple Tax on everything I bought. I've since gone back to a ThinkPad and Windows 7 (Lenovo T400). There are some programs I use that require Windows, and quite frankly I don't feel like dealing with the complication of Boot Camp and virtualization.

    What I like about Windows over Apple is that Windows makes it seem easier to get into the nuts and bolts when something needs to be adjusted or fixed. With OSX, if something goes awry, it can be a cryptic nightmare trying to get to the root of the issue. Software seems more readily available in Windows. The hardware is far and away cheaper for comparable specs.

    What I like about Apple over Windows is that the hardware is built like a rock-- you never have worry about failure, and Apple machines are beautiful. You can surf without worrying about trojans. The font rendering is superior (Quartz is awesome, but can be emulated by GDI++ in Windows). Most basic operations seem more intuitive. The Apple ecosystem is more cohesive if you have an iOS device.

    I would say, just go with whichever system appeals to you more. I got to beta test Windows 8, and while the Metro interface is pretty, it's basically a reskinned version of Windows 7 again. Microsoft is trying desperately to gloss over the inner workings of Windows just like Apple does with OSX, so the further along both systems progress in development, the more you just need to pick a system that appeals to you.
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    Oct 08, 2012 4:55 AM GMT
    I had a asus laptopt and now have a mac book pro and will NEVER look back. Sure the asus worked fined but from time to time some programs did not work, and I had some problem. Windows fulfilled its function but for me Apple just goes that extra level. My Mac does not have these types of problems and as people have already stated the hardware blends perfectly with the software. I swear macs are just beautiful inside and out. I admire Steve Job's effort to blend art and science.The attention to detail that has been given to it is there. Sure Macs are more expensive but for an object that I use every day for so many different things I do not mind paying the extra money. I believe it is worth it.