any apolitical, nonpartisan, independent, libertarian, etc. ppl here?

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    Oct 07, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
    is there anyone here who doesn't fit into the con/lib false dichotomy?
    as a non-voter, i currently lack a political affiliation/identity.
    am i the only one here without a political affiliation?

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  • HottJoe

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    Oct 07, 2012 4:49 AM GMT
    You are not alone.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 07, 2012 5:27 AM GMT
    Libertarian is a political affiliation, boo, as is moderate. Both have heavy political implications.

    Do you mean you lack a partisan affiliation, as in, you don't belong to either party?
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    Oct 07, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    Independent is the better word. I take it to mean we've looked at what's available in terms of political parties, affiliations, ideologies, and thought "but what if no one of those can exclusively solve our policy problems?"

    And thus an independent is born.
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    Oct 07, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    I am registered as a Republican but I really don't align with them. Republicans think I'm too liberal when it comes to social issues and Democrats think I"m too conservative with economics and free-markets. And both parties think I pick on them exclusively when I play devil's advocate. icon_twisted.gif

    For instance, my dad might say something about immigration and I'll add that it's alot more expensive to become a citizen then it used to be and to come here legally may not be an option. Can't get a job without having papers and you can't get papers without having a job.

    Another instance might be with a Lib about how women earn less then men and how I believe that the statistic might be in error since it may not account for the fact that women simply choose jobs that pay less and perhaps have been in the workplace less time then men therefore aren't going to start with the same salary as a guy whose been there for a couple of years.
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    Oct 07, 2012 6:02 PM GMT
    I describe myself as an independent conservative, meaning I have my own opinions on things, and do not just swallow and support whatever someone else from "my side" says. It leaves me room to disagree, and since many people cannot handle disagreement, and immdiately start jumping up and down and screaming and name calling, we have more arguments than discussions here. Especially nasty is one clown from England. I think he needs to open his mind and let go of some anger, and a lot less gin. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 07, 2012 6:15 PM GMT
    Blakes7 said...many people cannot handle disagreement, and immdiately start jumping up and down and screaming and name calling... Especially nasty is one clown from England. I think he needs to open his mind and let go of some anger, and a lot less gin.

    What type of alcohol does he say that YOU drink? icon_wink.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 07, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
    I am an independent with a comfortable mixture of conservative and liberal views. I am moderate in those views. I firmly believe in the art of compromise which is something we need to see more of in the halls of government these days.
  • comfortablynu...

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    Oct 07, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
    Independents/moderates are the reason the status quo exists.
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    Oct 07, 2012 9:23 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]bostonsam said[/cite]
    IceBucket saidI am registered as a Republican but I really don't align with them. Republicans think I'm too liberal when it comes to social issues and Democrats think I"m too conservative with economics and free-markets.


    In the real world there are many, many people like javalava who started this topic.

    Here on this website, though, the radical extreme leftist Democrats label anyone who doesn't think as they do (Independent OR Democrat) as a Republican!

    And they do it with such bluster in such a way as to try and bully the poor target of The few times I've voiced my opinion about something and others have taken notice (most of my posts go unreplied :lolicon_smile.gif I really haven't felt like I was being bullied.

    I think people should perhaps learn the difference between debating/disagreement and actual fighting/flaming. Like right now, I disagree with you but I'm not bullying you or anything.

    I hate to say it, but from what I've seen, some Republicans on this forum seem to like playing the victim card a lot - which I totally think is the wrong position to take. It only serves to degrade your points of view and makes others think that you can't back up your arguments. At the same time, I see some democrats here paint all Republicans with the same brush when commenting on a news piece (not on someone else's comment).
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    Oct 07, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    Ross Perot was the last serious stab at an independent US presidential candidate. At one point, he was riding high, polling 39% (versus 31% for Bush Snr and 25% for Clinton). He did very well in the first debate, but faded after that (familiar story). In the end he received a very impressive 18.9% of the popular vote, but no electoral college votes. It always has been and always will be difficult to break the two-party cycle. It is the same in British politics, though the 'third' party, the Lib Dems, are now in (coalition) government, but deeply unpopular because of it.

    Incidentally, Ross Perot (always a strong advocate of gay rights) is still very much alive and kicking. It's never too late.

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