Couple Says They Were Beaten in Asheville, North Carolina for Being Gay

  • metta

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    Oct 12, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    Couple Says They Were Beaten in Asheville for Being Gay

    "Mark Little and his partner Dustin Martin say they were walking down a street in Asheville, N.C. when they were attacked and beaten."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2012/10/12/couple-says-they-were-beaten-asheville-being-gay
  • TheBizMan

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    Oct 12, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    Not surprised considering the close mindedness of NC citizens.
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    Oct 13, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
    There'll be LOT more of this if R&R get elected.
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    Oct 13, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    Unfortunately this kind of shit is still common in most of the world.
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    Oct 13, 2012 1:52 AM GMT
    Wow I didn't hear about this, and im from N.C.
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    Oct 13, 2012 2:00 AM GMT
    I hear suppression is a weapon of community control, in the South; from a Southerner, in my area, I spoke to, in person.
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    Oct 13, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    I was under the impression that Asheville is a very progressive city.
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:43 AM GMT
    By progressive you must mean more targets.
  • ncsudude

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
    i didn't hear about this either, but I'm surprised it happened in Asheville it is one of the more hippie cities that wouldn't care.
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    Oct 13, 2012 5:14 AM GMT
    TheBizMan saidNot surprised considering the close mindedness of NC citizens.
    Asheville is pretty liberal though.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 13, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
    What do you expect, its the South. The poverty strickened land of homophobes, racists, anti semites, and narrow minded bible thumping screwballs. It appears that Asheville, NC is not quite as liberal and accepting as it is cracked up to be. But than neither is Austin, TX. The ignorant right wingers are a majority throughout the South.
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    Oct 13, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhat do you expect, its the South. The poverty strickened land of homophobes, racists, anti semites, and narrow minded bible thumping screwballs. It appears that Asheville, NC is not quite as liberal and accepting as it is cracked up to be. But than neither is Austin, TX. The ignorant right wingers are a majority throughout the South.


    Agreed, +1

    The best way for us to get equality and acceptance is to fuel an us vs. them environment with everyone who dislikes us!

    Way to go guys! Bravo, grade A thinking.

    Did anyone stop to think that we dont really fight hate, Christianity, or the south, but ignorance? Maybe if we started connecting to people as actual human beings instead of marginalizing them into stereotypes they might do the same.

    Then again, that requires a brain, something that is not in abundance here on RealJock.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThere'll be LOT more of this if R&R get elected.



    Apparently there's a lot of it with Obama President too icon_rolleyes.gif
  • BoostToChase

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    Asheville is a very progressive liberal city, kind of an oasis really. I have visited it frequently in the past. That doesn't mean it isn't surrounded on all sides by close mindedness or that everyone in the city happen to be good people.
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:06 PM GMT
    BoostToChase saidAsheville is a very progressive liberal city, kind of an oasis really. I have visited it frequently in the past. That doesn't mean it isn't surrounded on all sides by close mindedness or that everyone in the city happen to be good people.


    What disgusts me about this thread is that shit like this happens in San Francisco too, and when it does no one goes up in arms with "Oh those dirty, dumbass, disgusting hippies!" All they focus on is the one person who was an idiot.

    But nooo, it happens here then it must be the entire part of the country. No wonder they love us so much! We give them so much reason too!
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    paulflexes saidThere'll be LOT more of this if R&R get elected.



    Apparently there's a lot of it with Obama President too icon_rolleyes.gif


    LOL...."A lot?" These heinous acts will be 10 fold if the "R & R" regime hold court. Since both of these republicans have "promised" to not approve any Gay issues.
    Come on..it's common sense. We know how you republicans love the trickle-down philosophy. icon_wink.gif
    The Court of "R & R" Gay haters will certainly trickle down through their despicable ranks based on religious bullshit.

    Tristan
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:17 PM GMT
    musclefetish1 saidSince both of these republicans have "promised" to not approve any Gay issues.



    Absolutely NOT true. They have said they are not in favor of gay marriage or civil unions, but they have not said they would veto such a thing IF congress voted to pass it. As for "gay issues" in general, please cite ANY example in which either Romney or Ryan have stated that they would "not approve ANY gay issues". Even though Romney has said he is in favor of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, that is a far cry from it actually ever happening. In fact, I seriously doubt it ever would happen, and even if it did the Supreme Court would probably shoot it down. In the event of a Romney presidency, I really think the gay community should take a "wait & see" attitude, because they may just be pleasantly surprised at how things play out. I believe gains will continue to be made regardless of who is in The White House.
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    musclefetish1 saidSince both of these republicans have "promised" to not approve any Gay issues.



    Absolutely NOT true. They have said they are not in favor of gay marriage or civil unions, but they have not said they would veto such a thing IF congress voted to pass it. As for "gay issues" in general, please cite ANY example in which either Romney or Ryan have stated that they would "not approve ANY gay issues".


    They have run on a platform of pandering to the religious right which which is completely anti-Gay.
    As an example, they have both publicly said MANY times that they would be in favor of and approve of a constitutional ban on Gay marriage. With this mentality there is no gray area for them to be pro-Gay on any issues. What's left Todd? Once a constitutional amendment against us is in place, NO other rights can come. It's the trickle-down effect.
    Their religious beliefs in the denial of equal rights is exactly what the constitution was put in place to discourage.

    The mere fact that you acknowledge their not being in favor of Gay marriage OR even civil unions, yet still support them is maddening and mind boggling. icon_mad.gif

    Tristan
  • rko881

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    Asheville is very liberal and probably the most open minded community in North Carolina with the exception of maybe the triangle area. I heard nothing on the news about this and honestly don't believe it to be true. Just because a few of our fine statesmen are crazy and not open minded doesn't mean the whole state is like that. Stop all the scare tactics as well about how much this will happen if Romeny is elected...as a gay republican it pisses me off how narrow minded some of you liberals are...especially since you tell everyone how open minded and accepting you are
  • TheBizMan

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:32 PM GMT
    If you want a liberal southern city, move to Atlanta.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    If you want acceptance and progressive thinking, abandon the southern states and move up north.
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    Does everyone think that the best way to get equality and acceptance is to run away from people who dont really understand gay men and women instead of just engaging the community as a normal human being and letting them understand you?

    Just a thought.

    Just to add some clarification, after moving from the Castro to Montana, I have found that no one really gives a shit about my orientation. When I did engage the community before getting bogged down with work and graduate school applications, all interactions I had with "redneck lowlives" out here has been positive, because I was a good shot with a shot gun (which surprised me too.)

    If we keep marginalizing others, how can we expect them to not do the same to us? As a community we need to build bridges with others who do not like us so they can understand us. No, do not go in waving the gay flag, go in as a human being following your genuine interests, and find other people (regardless of orientation) who share those interests, and if they start bashing gays, kindly remind them or inform them that YOU are gay. If they like you, they will question their preconceived beliefs based on what they think of you. Minds will then = open.
  • BoostToChase

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:43 PM GMT
    I hate to wade into the politics of the matter, though I guess I am by asking this, but how can the supreme court shoot down a constitutional amendment? I may be wrong, but I thought that the court is bound by the contents of that document, not the other way around. The best the justices could do is establish precedent to weaken/strengthen and subvert/enhance various clauses, as Roberts did recently with the interstate commerce clause.

    You're right, there will be no amendment banning gay marriage, or rather defining marriage depending on how you spin the matter. The popular support has eroded, and continues to erode, for such action. That is inspiring to me!

    Either way, i'm completely off topic. If this happened in Asheville, it just doesn't surprise me. As someone else said, it happens in cities of more liberal stature. But as with all stereotypes, they exist for a reason. The south is generally less accepting; so until the base truths change, the stereotypes will persist.
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    BoostToChase saidI hate to wade into the politics of the matter, though I guess I am by asking this, but how can the supreme court shoot down a constitutional amendment? I may be wrong, but I thought that the court is bound by the contents of that document, not the other way around. The best the justices could do is establish precedent to weaken/strengthen and subvert/enhance various clauses, as Roberts did recently with the interstate commerce clause.

    You're right, there will be no amendment banning gay marriage, or rather defining marriage depending on how you spin the matter. The popular support has eroded, and continues to erode, for such action. That is inspiring to me!

    Either way, i'm completely off topic. If this happened in Asheville, it just doesn't surprise me. As someone else said, it happens in cities of more liberal stature. But as with all stereotypes, they exist for a reason. The south is generally less accepting; so until the base truths change, the stereotypes will persist.


    They can say that the constitutional amendment violates a group of peoples basic constitutional rights, and therefore cannot be amended.

    If the south votes to make a constitutional amendment so that black people couldnt own property, do you think the supreme court wouldnt be able to do anything about that?
  • BoostToChase

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    Oct 13, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    Ah, scope. I was talking national since the conversation was moving towards Obama/Romney bashing. Yes, they can roll back state amendments.