Skin care

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    Mar 09, 2007 12:15 AM GMT
    I see guys with perfect skin and realize it has to be genetic. But there are things we can do to help.

    Drinking lots of water works well for me. I wanted to see what other guys have found helps them to keep their skin clear and free of acne and oil.
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    Mar 09, 2007 3:02 AM GMT


    Getting to know your specific skin is key if you want to work towards "perfect skin". Yes genetics helps, as it does with everything, but some people are so sadly cursed with horrendous skin just because. Well everyone is capable of having good skin just as much as anyone can have great abs if they are willing to put in the work. First youve gotta get to know your skin type, and there is classification and your specific skin. Learn when and if you need to exfoliate, how much and what kind of moisturizer to use, spot cream? face wash? then getting into shaving is even more involved... Skin is so unique to everyone that you truly have to find the perfect everything (routine, product, etc.) to attain really good skin. I went from using bar soap alone to now using about 21 different products over the course of 3 years. Now obviously not everyone has to get this obsessive, it all depends on what you want to take care of. Well i could really teach a class on this, so i will stop now.
  • phill

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    Mar 09, 2007 5:46 AM GMT
    i was using bar soap up until a few months ago when i got a loofa and some body wash. I started moisturizing after my shower on most of my body as well. now i dont have patchy skin it helped alot.
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    Mar 09, 2007 11:52 PM GMT
    I am not a dermatologist but from what I have read and from my own experience the following seem to hold water.

    1)Mild cleanser morning and b4 beddy bi;
    2)Daily moisturizer with at least a SPF 15;
    3)Keep yourself hydrated throughout the day;
    4)Avoid excessive sun exposure;
    5)Adequate amounts of rest(at least 7 hrs);
    6)Avoid toxic and stress-inducing situations if possible;
    7)Good and safe sex;
    8)Eat lots and various types of veggies;
    9)Wear your shades when possible to minimize squinting from the sun;
    10)Avoid or minimize drug use;
    11)DON'T smoke!
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    Mar 10, 2007 12:54 PM GMT
    Hydration, Balanced nutrition, Exfolliation and a great skin care line. I use a line that contain no perfums, the cleaser is mild, the toner is mild and syrums hydrate and nourish the skin cells and a good protective cream. Check out the TV shopping channels, they have great lines. For problem skin try Proactive and Elizabeth Grant work miricles for anti-aging.

    I suggest you go for a complete facial cleaning once or twice yearly, it is a real treat. Also, the technician can give you great advice. Pay a bit more and go to a place that knows thier stuff. It is worth it!
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    Mar 10, 2007 3:36 PM GMT
    All of the above, of course. However, my dermatologist has me on retin A cream (same thing prescribed for acne). That's been amazing. It's an exfoliant, but gently. I use that at night, and I use a non-prescription AFAs (fruit acid) gel...Also a skin moistureizer with high spf rating...
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    Mar 11, 2007 2:05 AM GMT
    Thanks for all the advice. If you have any specific products you recommend, let me know. If you don't want to be an advertisement here feel free to email me.

  • Mar 11, 2007 6:07 AM GMT
    Speedracer's tips are invaluable and definitely effective. I noticed a huige difference after I quit smoking especially. Aside from that, I use a combination of several different products from several different companies. Overall, my favourite line of products is Kiehl's, I can buy it here in Korea and it costs me a small fortune, but, it is definitely worth it. My skin is pretty sensitive to different products, especially those with perfumes..so here is my list...The first thing I do is, once every week and a half, I scrub my face with plain old sugar. I take about a cup and mix it with a little bit of water in the shower until it forms a paste and I scrub my face with that. I use a different more gentle scrub every 2 days, it's a generic tea tree face scrub. When I shave, I do it in this order:
    1.facial scrub 2. Facial fuel energising face wash by Kiehl's.3. Kiehl's Ultimate Brushless Shave Cream - White Eagle (I shave my head also and this has been the best shaving cream I have ever come across.4. Then I use the alcohol-free herbal toner, also from Kiehl's5. I use two moisturisers, for my shaving area, I use Kiehls facial fuel and for the rest, I use Lab Series Age Rescue face Lotion 6.and for my eyes, I really like Age Rescue Eye Therapy by Lab Series. Throughtout the day, when my eyes feel tired, I use Lab Series Instant Moisture Eye Gel (it has a metal roller that feels really good when you get the tired eyes going on~I also like to refrigerate it for a nicer feeling). This all seems pretty high maintenance, but, when you incorporate it into your daily life, all in all, it's pretty much an extra 5 minutes a day. I do think that if you want to stick to one line to try out first (I have tried most of the men's lines and some of the women's), go for Kiehl's PLUS, they are really generous with free samples to try different products, I have tried them all and like each one I have tried. Good luck!
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    Mar 12, 2007 11:38 PM GMT
    You should check out Paula Begone's book, "Don't go to the cosmetic counter without me." I have found this book to be a true bibble, and a decodifier to all the stuff that it is out there. A couple of lines have been mentioned in a couple of postings, and altough some are expensive, you can find the same product under a different brand for much cheaper. Keep in mind that most major cosmetic companies also own much smaller ones (i.e Clinique and Estee Lauder)
    I speak from experience, it has taken me many years and a lot of money to achieve what I consider, for me, to be perfect skin. Educate yourself on the different lines, and try them as well, but above all get yourself a good dermatologist that will help you on your journey.
  • hotversguy

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    Mar 20, 2007 3:50 AM GMT
    keep the perfect skin of today perfect tomorrow and remember the sunscreen.
  • OptimusMatt

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    Mar 20, 2007 5:32 AM GMT
    For me, I had terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE acne as a teenager - we're talking pimples the size of quarters and hard as cysts ALL over my body.
    I say acutane those bastids away...worked for me. But then again, I had it so bad I couldn't sleep on my back or my stomach because the pressure would cause immense pain everywhere. Also..the side effects are incredible, and, trust me, there is no 'may experience' with that shit. I was lucky enough to take it before they knew it caused depression in adolecent boys...

    So anyways, aside from straight-up prescriptions, I've used Lubriderm (waaayyy back in the day) but found it to be incredibly greasy...so I stopped for quite some time until my bf gave me a bottle of aquafitness exfoliator. I LOVED it - just exfoliating once a week gave my skin a healthy glow - totally worth it.

    Then, a friend of mine's bf worked for Hugo Boss cosmetics - he gave me some samples of the (then new) mens skin care line - the moisturizer feels like you're rubbing water on your face, I swear to god. Not greasy at all. But it's got a perfume, and I tend to not use hugo boss cologne, so I started looking for alternatives.

    I then tried Shizedo.
    I.
    Love.
    Shizedo.

    Moisturizer isn't greasy, and the exfoliator....wow. You scrub it on once a week and I tend to leave it on my whole shower...once you wash it off it takes EVERYTHING with it and it tingles...kinda like you just brushed your teeth, but it's your face, lol.

    I traded acne for incredibly sensitive, dry skin - a fair trade-off, but everything I use needs to be as mild as possible. Shizedo is approx. mid-range in price - not 'expensive' but not 'cheap' either - and considering a bottle of the moisturizer lasts several months and the exfoliator longer, it's really NOT that expensive in the long run (this applies to most facial products you can buy. Obviously there are exceptions but on average..)
    Seriously, it's been said previously - know your skin, and then see what you like and what you think you need. It's not a lot of effort but the effects are immediatley noticable.
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    Mar 20, 2007 5:51 AM GMT
    You know, this turns out to be one of those "gay litmus tests." I bought wall dispensers for the (big) showers in my house. I keep them filled from gallon-sized jugs of "soap," "shampoo," "conditioner," and "lotion," that I buy from a hotel supply place. The straight guys who sleep over think it's the greatest thing ever. The gay guys just shudder and pull out half a dozen tubes of "product" from their overnight bags.

    For a while, the "Journal of Irreproducible Results" had a column that lampooned the claims made by cosmetic companies. (If any of them were true, they'd have a lock on ALL of the nobel prizes.) Either the joke got old or the grad student who wrote it got a real job. Probably for Procter & Gamble, lol.
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    Mar 20, 2007 5:56 AM GMT
    Oh, BTW, as a teen I had nasty acne, too. I had to see a bunch of specialists about my knees. Finally, one of them slipped me a bottomless prescription for tetracycline. It took me a month to figure out what he was getting at, lol.
  • atxclimber

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    Mar 20, 2007 6:54 AM GMT
    I was blessed with good skin, although I had acne like any teenager. These days, I mostly use stuff from Lush cosmetics, and even then mostly because I like going in there, since it's like a candy store (all the soaps and stuff are these bright colors and swirls and stuff, and they sell all sorts of wacky bubble-bath bars and the likes.)

    A female friend who has a tough time with her complexion got me hooked on Lush's "Coal Face" soap; it's black and it smells kind of like a petroleum product, but somehow I've grown to love the smell, probably because it works so damned well. Got a couple straight friends hooked on it, too, a guy and girl, who each buy a bar any time they're in a city with a Lush.

    I also use the Lush "Olive Branch" body wash, mostly because I absolutely love the smell. Masculine, but with bergamot and olive leaves, it's hard to describe, but really distinct and I'm totally hooked.

    Then I use the Lush shampoo bars, because they're like $9 and last me at least 2 months each, so it's cheaper even than the cheapest brand of liquid shampoo from Walgreens, and it takes up less space.

    On a whim I bought a jar of Lush's "Ocean Salt" exfoliating scrub, which is citrus stuff (grapefruit, lime, etc.) and coarse sea salt. I don't use it often (because it is *coarse*) but every so often if my face is dry or whatever, I'll use it and it feels great and leaves my skin looking revived.

    The only skin problem I haven't quite figured out how to solve yet is, well, mildly embarassing -- when I am cycling a lot, especially long distance rides, I get blemishes on my backside, where the pad and elastic waist are in the cycling shorts. I use the oh-so-delicately-named Chamois Butt'r, i.e. greasy lotion you spread on the shorts and your ass, and that goes a long way towards preventing chafing, but just the pressure against the shorts, the sweat, areas where it doesn't wick & breathe, it all takes its toll. I have yet to find a great solution to that, since lotions and whatnot don't seem to help much, and I can't use an exfoliant nor astringent right after a long ride or I think I would just be screaming in agony. Plus, it's kind of hard to exfoliate your own ass.
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    Apr 02, 2007 3:31 AM GMT
    To benefit the skin:

    - consume foods with antioxidant propterties and vitamin C in its acidic form:
    • green veggies (broccoli, spinach)
    • berries (blueberries, strawberries, etc)
    • oranges, cranberries, cherries
    • red pepper (high in vitamin C)
    • tomatoes (high in lycopene which is a fat soluble antioxidant)
    • cocoa powder (not chocalate bars)
    • Goji berries and juice
    • other similar veggies and fruits

    - avoid UV exposure since it damages the collagen in the skin and therefore destroys skin tone and creates discolorations (DON’T USE TANNING BEDS)

    - tuna and salmon have lots of vitamin E

    - moisturize of course

    - if you’re still young, avoid anti-aging or anit-wrinkle creams as they are harsh on the skin and causes your skin to become dependent upon them (made that mistake)

    - visit your local laser clinic to have deep thermal collagen stimulation done (a naural way to promote collagen production)

    - laser genesis at a laser clinic can be used to reduce skin redness and discoloration
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    May 06, 2007 12:09 PM GMT
    i think you have to take a very holistic approach to maintaining your skin and everything you want to improve/maintain. you can't escape your body so everything contributes to what you look like.

    lots of water, decent sleep, good foods, avoid touching your face, exfoliate, positive outlook, exercise and rest, avoid direct sunlight and a clean environment (change your sheets every 3 days, clean towels etc)

    i don't like my skin, it's too dark for me in some areas, got a singlet tan, face can breakout occasionally and a few stretch marks. if i were a few shades lighter and had an even tone i'd be content. scars on my body i'm happy with, most were self inflicted one way or another lol

    neutrogena is a good brand i've used, as well as clinque, shiseido and biotherm homme.
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    May 06, 2007 4:45 PM GMT
    A lot of above-mentioned information that I live by. Would like to recommend one great sunscreen product that I SWEAR by:

    Neutrogena's Ultra Sheer Sunscreens.

    I never leave the house without it. They come in SPF 30, 45, 55 and now 70. It goes on easily and dries up. You will NOT get that greasy after feel you usually get from sunscreens.

    And remember, even though it is cloudy and rainy outside, still wear sunscreen.

    8-)
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    May 06, 2007 7:08 PM GMT
    typical gay topic couldnt give a F--k

    You do, apparently, give enough of a F--k to post a comment about it, though.

    and from no pic person.

    Actually, he's a private pic person.

    I have oily, olive complected skin that tans beautifully and never dries out, so I tend to be pretty lax about moisturizing. But, when I do, I use Dr. Hauschka products from Germany.
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    May 06, 2007 7:25 PM GMT
    The doc makes good stuff, but AVEDA is the best. Their TOURMALINE line is fantastic. Very fresh scented, not too perfumey. A lot of my friends always ask, so I am telling it here: AVEDA rocks, and is not too expensive either...
    granted it's not so cheap. Oh, and if you absolutely have to use under-arm deodorant -PAUL SMITH.
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    May 06, 2007 7:47 PM GMT
    I'm not familiar with Aveda's skin products. The only Aveda product I'm currently using is their Brilliant Anti-Humectant Pomade.

    For deodorant, I use Weleda Sage Deodorant and Aubrey Organics Herbal Pine Deodorant.
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    May 06, 2007 8:15 PM GMT
    I've always had problematic skin. It's very sensitive, it breaks out WAY too easily, etc. I've tried nearly everything and none of it has helped much. I recently underwent a medical treatment with something called "Levulan" and a special blue light that kills infection underneath the skin. It's worked miracles. I haven't really had a breakout since I did it about a month ago (which is rare for me).

    I take good care of my skin: I wash it twice a day, once in the morning with a mild non-soap and non-comedogenic cleanser, then once at night with 1.5% Salycilic Acid (it's too sensitive for Benzoyl Peroxide) and I mosturize both in the morning and at night with a mild moisturizer that contains SPF15...and I drink lots of water...and I get AT LEAST eight hours of sleep a night.

    I guess it has HELPED to keep my skin from worsening but until I underwent treatment it really never kept it clear. Sometimes, no matter how much you take care of it, your skin can still be difficult.
  • MikemikeMike

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    May 06, 2007 9:30 PM GMT
    I think you were right the first sentence. It is mostly genetic. All Italian here, always looked alot younger than my age. My Mom is almost 80 and looks 60 she does not drink alot of water and she used to get tan alot in her day. Her skin looks great-she never did and still doesn't wear make-up, except lipstick. A good NYC Dermatologist told me a good spf 15 for the face is enough. If u have bad skin wash with Cetaphil.
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    May 06, 2007 9:39 PM GMT
    yah, good genes. Yup. Lucky us. Thanks mom and dad.
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    May 24, 2007 5:08 PM GMT
    lasers and peels...lasers and peels...
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 22, 2007 2:21 PM GMT
    scally,

    you should feel my skin and you would know what a reall man feels like.

    Mike