CBS News Poll: OBAMA WINS 2nd DEBATE -- Obama 37% Romney 30% CNN Poll: Obama 46% Romney 39%

  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:12 AM GMT
    Obama Wins Debate In CBS Poll Of Uncommitted Voters
    A new CBS news poll conducted using an online panel of "about 500" uncommitted voters finds a slight plurality of 37 percent say President Barack Obama won the debate, while 30 percent said Mitt Romney did and 33 percent said it was a tie.

    Romney came into the debate with a big advantage on the economy -- a gap that Obama was unable to close, but did dent. Before the debate, 71 percent of respondents said Romney had the edge on handling the economy and 27 percent said Obama did. After the debate, that narrowed somewhat to a 65 percent to 34 percent advantage for Romney.

    Obama held the advantage on better handling the middle class, 56 percent to 43 percent. Fifty-five percent of poll respondents said Obama gave direct answers to questions, while 49 percent said the same about Romney.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/



    CNN Poll Declares Obama Debate Winner
    A new CNN poll of registered voters who watched the debate found that 46 percent of respondents said President Barack Obama won the debate, and 39 percent said Mitt Romney did. The survey's margin of error was four percentage points.

    Obama outperformed expectations in the second debate. Seventy-three percent of respondents said Obama did better than they expected, 10 percent said he did worse, and 16 percent said he did about the same as expected. Romney performed closer to expectations: 37 percent said he did better than expected, 28 percent said worse, and 33 percent said he performed the same.

    According to CNN, the sample was composed of about 33 percent Democrats and 33 percent Republicans, or about eight percentage points more Republicans than the average of all CNN polls in 2012 among all adults (not registered voters specifically).
    http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/pollingcenter/polls/3274

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:18 AM GMT
    Sigh...Crowley was a terrible moderator. A "alpha male" brawl needed an "alpha male" moderator. Martha Raddatz was much better in that respect.

    What happened to good old Lincoln Douglas debates where there's a buzzer and defined times for rebuttals?
  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:30 AM GMT
    Both polls show Obama the winner, but the CBS is more significant because it was among undecided voters. This is what wins elections.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:36 AM GMT
    50 to 46% Romney over Obama as of 10/17/12 overall. NYC Fox News......
    more to come.
    FL and OH will decide. Jeb's boys will be counting the ballots.icon_lol.gif
  • comfortablynu...

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:48 AM GMT
    Obama may have won the debate, but does he have binders full of women?
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 17, 2012 5:50 AM GMT
    comfortablynumb saidObama may have won the debate, but does he have binders full of women?


    Binders full of women will be voting for Obama after Mitt's crappy debate showing, that's for sure.
  • Laurence

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    Oct 17, 2012 11:55 AM GMT
    Forget women

    I want a binder full of men

    Lozx
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    Oct 17, 2012 1:20 PM GMT
    No fucking way in a blizzard freezing hell did Obama even come CLOSE to winning the debate. Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place, just in the first few minutes. From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point.

    Obama was just floundering, often repetitious, frustrated ramblings without making clear distinct contrasting points, was rowdy with his interruptions at ill-opportune times. The two quips he delivered, while good, were not enough to save his obviously inferior debating skills vs Romney.

    Not that this has anything to do with who is right or wrong on the issues, but come on people...Good god, I never even watched the first debate so if people are actually concocting some dream about Obama shining last night then I can't imagine what the last debate was like if supporters actually admitted he lost.
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    Oct 17, 2012 1:37 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidNo fucking way in a blizzard freezing hell did Obama even come CLOSE to winning the debate. Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place, just in the first few minutes. From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point.

    Obama was just floundering, often repetitious, frustrated ramblings without making clear distinct contrasting points, was rowdy with his interruptions at ill-opportune times. The two quips he delivered, while good, were not enough to save his obviously inferior debating skills vs Romney.

    Not that this has anything to do with who is right or wrong on the issues, but come on people...Good god, I never even watched the first debate so if people are actually concocting some dream about Obama shining last night then I can't imagine what the last debate was like if supporters actually admitted he lost.


    Love the ignore senseless post function!
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    Oct 17, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkles saidNo fucking way in a blizzard freezing hell did Obama even come CLOSE to winning the debate. Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place, just in the first few minutes. From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point.

    Obama was just floundering, often repetitious, frustrated ramblings without making clear distinct contrasting points, was rowdy with his interruptions at ill-opportune times. The two quips he delivered, while good, were not enough to save his obviously inferior debating skills vs Romney.

    Not that this has anything to do with who is right or wrong on the issues, but come on people...Good god, I never even watched the first debate so if people are actually concocting some dream about Obama shining last night then I can't imagine what the last debate was like if supporters actually admitted he lost.


    Love the ignore senseless post function!


    Why not just ignore then instead of respond? lmao
  • musclmed

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    Oct 17, 2012 3:09 PM GMT
    numerous ads on Obama's statement he characterized Bengazi attacks as "terrorism".

    next debate on foreign policy.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 17, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidNo fucking way in a blizzard freezing hell did Obama even come CLOSE to winning the debate. Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place, just in the first few minutes. From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point.

    Obama was just floundering, often repetitious, frustrated ramblings without making clear distinct contrasting points, was rowdy with his interruptions at ill-opportune times. The two quips he delivered, while good, were not enough to save his obviously inferior debating skills vs Romney.

    Not that this has anything to do with who is right or wrong on the issues, but come on people...Good god, I never even watched the first debate so if people are actually concocting some dream about Obama shining last night then I can't imagine what the last debate was like if supporters actually admitted he lost.


    Obama won, hands down. He called Romney out on all of his lies and flip-flops. Romney made a fool of himself multiple times. He never gave any specifics on his economic plans. He managed to alienate women voters, and minorities. He came off as some rich guy who isn't used to being humiliated. He looked VERY awkard.

    You guys in the GOP are very poor losers. At least Democrats can admit defeat, when it occurs, but you guys try gold plate utter shit and call it win. Haha. Such an epic fail!
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    Oct 17, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkles saidNo fucking way in a blizzard freezing hell did Obama even come CLOSE to winning the debate. Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place, just in the first few minutes. From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point.

    Obama was just floundering, often repetitious, frustrated ramblings without making clear distinct contrasting points, was rowdy with his interruptions at ill-opportune times. The two quips he delivered, while good, were not enough to save his obviously inferior debating skills vs Romney.

    Not that this has anything to do with who is right or wrong on the issues, but come on people...Good god, I never even watched the first debate so if people are actually concocting some dream about Obama shining last night then I can't imagine what the last debate was like if supporters actually admitted he lost.


    Obama won, hands down. He called Romney out on all of his lies and flip-flops. Romney made a fool of himself multiple times. He never gave any specifics on his economic plans. He managed to alienate women voters, and minorities. He came off as some rich guy who isn't used to being humiliated. He looked VERY awkard.

    You guys in the GOP are very poor losers. At least Democrats can admit defeat, when it occurs, but you guys try gold plate utter shit and call it win. Haha. Such an epic fail!


    I agree. Mocktwinkles was seeing what he wanted to see. The President was strong, consistent, decisive. Romney came across as strident, defensive, antagonistic. Not that "how you say it" should be the reason a candidate gets votes, but that seems to be what our political system wants now.

    I still have a few conservative friends on Facebook who I haven't hidden for the duration. The most they could come up with was that Obama was blinking too much so he must be lying about something. Pretty weak stuff.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 17, 2012 3:50 PM GMT
    I'm not really one who reads much into all the silly polls --- especially when it comes to debates that are purely subjective. But, for argument sake, let's look at these numbers posted by the OP...

    In the CBS poll, it says 37% pick Obama the winner, 30% Romney, 33% a tie. If you look at the broader picture that 63% either thought it was a Romney win or a tie, than it's not exactly a slam dunk for the president. Dig a little deeper in the CBS polling, and we find what are really the more important numbers...On who is "Best on The Economy" (and "The Economy" is what this election seems to be all about), while Romney lost some ground after this debate here, he still came in at 65% to Obama's 34% --- NOT good for Obama.

  • jock_1

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
    Issues that will decide who is president....Economy, Jobs, Obamacare...Romney crushed Obama again especially when asked what the next four years will bring. Obama stuttered and mumbled his way through saying we will accomplish what we didnt accomplish in the first four years....HUH?? wtf kind of awnser was that Mr. President?

    Romeny crushes Obama on the economy, on jobs, on tax reform on social security and welfare reform and on Obamacare. Obama cant run on his record, that why he cant awnser those questions. Keep the hammer down on those issues and Romney is our next president. The Independents are moving heavily in the Romney direction in the swing states.

    The next debate wont matter as much as the first 2 because the voters minds will be made up. Romney will win that foreign policy debate anyhow based on the latest Obama scandle and not to mention the fast and furious scandle. You might have seen a more feisty Obama because he's desperate but he is still losing and they know it.
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    Oct 17, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
    ^ Lol.
  • MusclFurPeX

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    CNN


    Who do you think fared better in the second presidential debate?
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  • MusclFurPeX

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
    FOX NEWS

    President Barack Obama 67.22%


    Governor Mitt Romney 32.78%
  • MusclFurPeX

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    Oct 17, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    Romney LIES fact checked


    http://youtu.be/2Wx7_nDHqMY
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    Oct 17, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
    Wow some people are really living in a flippin' fantasyland....We're not talking about who was "right" on the issues...when it comes to debating skills Romney won, no not just slightly, overwhelmingly hands down.
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    Oct 17, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    The Republican Mind is TORTURED:
    " Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place "


    And CONFUSED:
    " From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point. "

    mock, "random organized facts" don't convey real ideas or illuminate policy direction.

    "random organized facts" are more generally recognized as 'BULLSHIT'.

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    Oct 17, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidThe Republican Mind is TORTURED:
    " Anyone who watched it saw what a bloodbath Romney made of the place "


    And CONFUSED:
    " From the confidence in composure to the random organized facts of what is happening around the world and a delivery that always ended in making a clear contrasted point. "

    mock, "random organized facts" don't convey real ideas or illuminate policy direction.

    "random organized facts" are more generally recognized as 'BULLSHIT'.



    Romney inserted those facts while making a point -- by mentioning specific numbers he created an effect of "knowing" what he was talking about and understanding what was happening in the world --- whether it was truthful or bullshit or not is besides the point.

    Obama did no such thing, just just appeared frustrated the whole time.

    If you want to talk about every aspect of the debate, let's do so!
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    Oct 17, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    AND........WHAT?.........DID YOU SAY?

    "...We're not talking about who was "right" on the issues.. "


    mock, THE ISSUES MATTER!!! ......to most of us.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 17, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    ^^^^OK. I really enjoyed the portion of the debate where Romney used his time to ask Obama questions, giving Obama more time to speak.

    I also liked when it looked like it would turn into a Jerry Springer episode, and secret service would have to break up a fight. Highly entertaining!

    But what's most important is that, at the end of the day, Obama won.icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 17, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidAND........WHAT?.........DID YOU SAY?

    "...We're not talking about who was "right" on the issues.. "


    mock, THE ISSUES MATTER!!! ......to most of us.


    The poll is about who won the frickin' debate, not who is "right" on the issues. Of course the issues matter but this is a debate, not a truth contest.