Will Mitt Create New Jobs?

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  Oct 18, 2012 3:42 PM GMT

  ALL in one hour, Mitt gave us these thoughts:
  
  I'm going to make sure you get a job. Thanks Jeremy. Yeah, you bet," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

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  Oct 18, 2012 4:37 PM GMT

  JockTheVote saidALL in one hour, Mitt gave us these thoughts:
  
  I'm going to make sure you get a job. Thanks Jeremy. Yeah, you bet," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

  
  
  
  Your point is...? Government doesn't create jobs, businesses do. Mitt Romney wants to help create an atmosphere in which businesses (specifically small businesses) are able to have confidence in their government and where the economy is heading so they will hire more people and people like "Jeremy" can find a job. This sort of forward momentum and confidence in economy will add millions of jobs --- and 12 million over 4 years, in a newly invigorated economy, is not impossible. Why is this so hard to grasp?

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  Oct 18, 2012 4:38 PM GMT

  Mitt Romney has a six-point lead on President Barack Obama, according to a Gallup poll of likely voters released Wednesday. He leads 51-45 among likely voters, and 48-46 among registered voters, according to a seven-day average.
  
  Gallup's margin is large among recent polls; seven other national polls released in the last two days show margins varying from +3 Obama to +4 Romney.
  
  The Gallup poll showed Romney at 50-46 on Tuesday and 49-47 on Monday.
  
  The numbers do not reflect Tuesday night's debate, in which many observers concluded that Obama had a stronger performance than Romney, if only slightly.
  
  In the first week of October, Romney was tied with Obama at 48 percent each, according to Gallup, which recently announced changes to its survey methodology.
  
  swallow that

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  Oct 18, 2012 4:42 PM GMT

  BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  Oct 18, 2012 4:43 PM GMT

  ^^^^ ^^^^
  
  You can just sort of feel the tensions building. A whole new "reality" is beginning to sink in for some. This should get very interesting...
  
  
  
  

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  Oct 18, 2012 4:47 PM GMT

  But dudes ......
  
  We WENT down that road before
  where we make a REALLY comfy bed for the rich people and plump the pillows and ask them you want some chocolate milk?
  We did all that Sh*t
  
  ................................................ AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT US
  
  We have had thirty years of deregs .... and Corporate welfare under a climate of doing anything and everything that was good for business
  and we basically where cornholed
  
  So you wanna try it again?
  Try some lube this time .... it'll hurt less

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  Oct 18, 2012 5:26 PM GMT

  GQ, you're being wayyyyyy to simple-minded when judging policies of the past and how they may or may not be applied in the future. The rules are vastly different in today's "world economy" even from 5 years ago...let alone 30...with emerging markets like China and India, not to mention huge problems in Europe, drastically changing the whole landscape. As I said in another thread, we are in unchartered territory here. You're kidding yourself if you think a President Mitt Romney would simply go back to policies that failed. It should be noted that not ALL failed. Also, in relation to some of those policies, much of the blame of the 2008 collapse can be placed squarely on events that were out of everyone's control --- a little thing called 9/11, and a catastrophe of epic proportions like Katrina -- that drastically altered the whole scenario in the early part of the decade with far-reaching repercussions that followed. Add to that the mortgage and banking meltdown --- largely caused by greedy Americans living beyond their means --- and a "perfect storm" for a major economic collapse ensued. You cannot discount the fact that, like him or not, Mitt Romney (with his vast experience in business on an international scale) is uniquely qualified to handle a situation like our current economy and, hopefully, turn it around.

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  Oct 18, 2012 5:33 PM GMT

  If Mitt wins and there is continued growth in the job market, they won't give Obama credit. They'll say, "See!"

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  Oct 18, 2012 5:44 PM GMT

  wrestlervic saidIf Mitt wins and there is continued growth in the job market, they won't give Obama credit. They'll say, "See!"

  
  
  
  You mean kind of like what the Democrats have been doing to Bush for nearly 4 years?

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  CuriousJockAZ saidMitt Romney wants to help create an atmosphere in which businesses (specifically small businesses) are able to have confidence in their government and where the economy is heading so they will hire more people and people like "Jeremy" can find a job.

  
  
  What, like the atmosphere he wanted to help create for the Detroit auto industry?
  
  

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  " Mitt Romney wants to help create an atmosphere in which businesses (specifically small businesses) are able to have confidence in their government and where the economy is heading so they will hire more people and people like "Jeremy" can find a job. This sort of forward momentum and confidence in economy will add millions of jobs --- and 12 million over 4 years, in a newly invigorated economy, is not impossible. Why is this so hard to grasp?"
  
  So.....MITT WANTS TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE ...ETC.
  
  I do grasp your uninformed enthusiasm.
  
  But what you are buying into is called 'MAGICAL THINKING'.
  
  The Business Community works best when we have governmental leadership that is CONSISTENT--------when the word of the President stands for something.
  
  MITT SAYS WHATEVER HE FINDS CONVENIENT IN THE MOMENT.
  
  What Mitt does can't even be called 'Flip-Flopping'. Republicans who have dealt with him, consider him to have NO VALUES at his core.
  
  A man like Mitt inspires nothing but uncertainty and suspicion.
  
  MITT WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR THE ECONOMY.

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  Oct 18, 2012 7:16 PM GMT

  Sure, if you want to put on a dorky uniform and sell staplers for minimum wage.
  
  Let's hear him talk about good jobs in infrastructure and clean energy.

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  Oct 18, 2012 7:17 PM GMT

  CuriousJockAZ said

  JockTheVote saidALL in one hour, Mitt gave us these thoughts:
  
  I'm going to make sure you get a job. Thanks Jeremy. Yeah, you bet," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

  
  
  
  Your point is...? Government doesn't create jobs, businesses do. Mitt Romney wants to help create an atmosphere in which businesses (specifically small businesses) are able to have confidence in their government and where the economy is heading so they will hire more people and people like "Jeremy" can find a job. This sort of forward momentum and confidence in economy will add millions of jobs --- and 12 million over 4 years, in a newly invigorated economy, is not impossible. Why is this so hard to grasp?

  
  
  BECAUSE IT'S ALL WISHFUL THINKING! HE HAS NO SUBSTANCE!

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  Oct 18, 2012 7:26 PM GMT

  Romney doesn't have to do anything or give any details. His Mitt-awesomeness will do it all.
  
  

  http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/mitt-romneys-economic-plan-win-then-do-nothing/262573/If it looks like I'm going to win, the markets will be happy. If it looks like the president's going to win, the markets should not be terribly happy. It depends of course which markets you're talking about, which types of commodities and so forth, but my own view is that if we win on November 6th, there will be a great deal of optimism about the future of this country. We'll see capital come back and we'll see -- without actually doing anything -- we'll actually get a boost in the economy.

  
  
  In a sense, he is right. No more Republican obstructionism if Obama isn't reelected.

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  Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM GMT

  Here's where Mitt Romney's 12 million jobs number comes from:
  
  One study of Mitt's economic plan found that it would add 7 million jobs (not 12 million) over 10 years (not 4 years.) You might think it was a liberal think tank trying to bash Romney, but it's not. It was the James A. Baker III Public Policy Institute. That's James A. Baker III, Sec. of State and Chief of Staff for G.H.W. Bush and Sec. of the Treasury for Ronald Reagan. The study also assumes that Romney's tax plan will be completely paid for (something that we are just supposed to take Romney's word since there is no evidence that it will be), and that the economy would be at full employment, which it wont be.
  
  A study by Citigroup found that energy related jobs would increase by 3 million (not 12 million) over the next 10 years (not 4 years) regardless of whose policies are in place.
  
  A US International Trade Commission report stated that we could create 2 million jobs IF China stops violating intellectual property rights. Again, this report was regardless of whose policies are in place
  
  7+3+2=12. 7 million jobs depending on a tax policy that is completely paid for by a presidential candidate who has offered no specifics on how he plans to pay for it other than "I'll pick a number." 3 million jobs that are slated to be created regardless of who is president. 2 million jobs if someone magically figures out how to stop China from disrespecting our intellectual property rights (hint: labeling them a currency manipulator and sparking a trade war probably isn't the best way to go about it.) All over 10 years, not 4.
  
  Moody's has said that if policies remain stable, our economy is expected to add 12 million jobs over the next 4 years. The CBO's forecast is a bit more pessimistic adding 7 million jobs over the next 4 years. Stick with Obama IMO.
  
  

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  " The study also assumes that Romney's tax plan will be completely paid for (something that we are just supposed to take Romney's word since there is no evidence that it will be), "
  
  HERE'S what The Tax Policy Center says about Romney's Tax Plan:
  
  " even the most generous version of Romney’s deduction cap would raise about only $1.3 trillion — about a quarter of the full cost — according to their new study, which was released yesterday afternoon. And that doesn’t include the additional roughly $2.5 trillion it would cost to extend all the Bush tax cuts, as Romney plans to. So he’s over $6 trillion short for the decade, and starting with a big deficit."
  
  REMEMBER WHEN ANN SAID THAT HER BIGGEST CONCERN FOR MITT........WAS FOR HIS MENTAL HEALTH?
  
  FOR GOOD REASON.

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  Oct 18, 2012 8:11 PM GMT

  Of course he will create jobs, they´ll just be in China.

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  Oct 18, 2012 8:13 PM GMT

  Ummm .... he did a great job talking up what he'd have done with GM

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  Oct 18, 2012 8:14 PM GMT

  CuriousJockAZ said^^^^ ^^^^
  
  You can just sort of feel the tensions building. A whole new "reality" is beginning to sink in for some. This should get very interesting...
  
  
  
  

  
  
  agreed.
  
  
  http://www.examiner.com/article/daily-presidential-tracking-poll-october-18-2012
  
  Whatever the results I hope it is decisive and a landslide.

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  Oct 18, 2012 8:18 PM GMT

  GonzoTheGreat saidOf course he will create jobs, they´ll just be in China.

  
  
  
  and India.

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  Oct 18, 2012 9:10 PM GMT

  CuriousJockAZ said

  JockTheVote saidALL in one hour, Mitt gave us these thoughts:
  
  I'm going to make sure you get a job. Thanks Jeremy. Yeah, you bet," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.
  
  "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

  
  
  
  Your point is...? Government doesn't create jobs, businesses do. Mitt Romney wants to help create an atmosphere in which businesses (specifically small businesses) are able to have confidence in their government and where the economy is heading so they will hire more people and people like "Jeremy" can find a job. This sort of forward momentum and confidence in economy will add millions of jobs --- and 12 million over 4 years, in a newly invigorated economy, is not impossible. Why is this so hard to grasp?

  
  
  
  You've got it backwards.
  Businesses have no reason to hire more workers as long as the merchandise they already have, isn't selling.
  And, it isn't selling because too many people have no job, and no income.
  
  You offered the exact same "specifics" that Romney and Ryan have been touting: NONE.

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  Oct 18, 2012 9:36 PM GMT

  President Romney won't "create" jobs but his policies and regulations will creat a positive enviornment for businesses to hire again. Something they were afraid to do under Obama's tax and heavy anti-business regulations.
  
  Another bad week for Obama and jobs....highest number of unemployed in the last 4 months because California delayed turning in numbers last month. He just doeasnt have the knowledge of business background to know how to run the country. Thank you President Romney

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  yourname2000 said

  JockTheVote saidWill Mitt Create New Jobs?

  
  Yes....in China.

  And gays won't be allowed to work at them.

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  Oct 18, 2012 9:45 PM GMT

  jock 1 repeats a myth on regulations under the Obama administration.
  
  HERE's what Bloomberg News found:
  
  "Obama’s White House has approved FEWER regulations than his predecessor George W. Bush at this same point in their tenures, and the estimated costs of those rules haven’t reached the annual peak set in fiscal 1992 under Bush’s father, according to government data reviewed by Bloomberg News.
  
  The average annual cost to businesses under Obama is LOWER than under his predecessors, the Bloomberg review shows. The increase is estimated to total as little as $100 million or as much as $4.1 billion, or
  
  at most three one-hundredths of a percent of the total economy."
  
  
  Get That, jock 1,
  
  FEWER REGULATIONS........
  
  and a LOWER COST TO BUSINESS.

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  Oct 18, 2012 9:52 PM GMT

  JockTheVote saidjock 1 repeats a myth on regulations under the Obama administration.
  
  HERE's what Bloomberg News found:
  
  "Obama’s White House has approved FEWER regulations than his predecessor George W. Bush at this same point in their tenures, and the estimated costs of those rules haven’t reached the annual peak set in fiscal 1992 under Bush’s father, according to government data reviewed by Bloomberg News.
  
  The average annual cost to businesses under Obama is LOWER than under his predecessors, the Bloomberg review shows. The increase is estimated to total as little as $100 million or as much as $4.1 billion, or
  
  at most three one-hundredths of a percent of the total economy."
  
  
  Get That, jock 1,
  
  FEWER REGULATIONS........
  
  and a LOWER COST TO BUSINESS.

  
  
  US businesses pay the highest corporate tax in the world. Obama has been anti business since he took office. All will change soon.

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