Rebecca Julius, Concordia College Student, Wears Anti-Gay 'Sin Is Sin' T-Shirt

  • metta

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    Oct 19, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    Rebecca Julius, Concordia College Student, Wears Anti-Gay 'Sin Is Sin' T-Shirt


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/rebecca-julius-concordia-college-sin-is-sin-anti-gay-marriage_n_1989585.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices
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    Oct 20, 2012 3:24 AM GMT
    She has a right to express herself.

    And someday, she and her lesbian partner, will look back at this as part of her coming-out process.......and they will laugh.

    Then they'll have a frisky tickle fight and make juicy love.

    But just like her tee shirt, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
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    Oct 20, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
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    Then they'll have a frisky tickle fight and make juicy love.



    Fish juice! BARF!
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    Oct 20, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    skykey saidBreathe, it's not the end of the world. It's just a shirt nothing to get offended about.


    You are right until the end. It's not the end of the world, it's just a shirt. But I'm offended. Why aren't you?

    It amazes me how many gay men make excuses for their oppressors.
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    Oct 20, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
    "I also know that God is proud of what I'm trying to do for him."

    Really? God is sticking his chest out over her T-shirt? .... "That's my girl," thus saith God.
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    Oct 20, 2012 4:34 AM GMT
    Meh she's from Wisconsin. Nobody takes her seriously anyway.
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    Oct 20, 2012 4:37 AM GMT
    skykey saidBreathe, it's not the end of the world. It's just a shirt nothing to get offended about.
    It's a shirt that other people will agree with, join with her, and create an atmosphere of hate.

    Tolerating intolerance is just as bad as being intolerant.
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    Oct 20, 2012 4:38 AM GMT
    Imagine if faith was as personal as sexuality is supposed to be.

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    Fundies are trying to create martyrs of themselves now that it's dawning on them that they're on the losing side of a cultural shift.
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    Oct 20, 2012 4:52 AM GMT
    I actually like when people wear their stupidity, bigotry, and self-aggrandizement so nakedly. None of this "love the sinner," folksy bigot double-speak. Show your true face.
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    Oct 20, 2012 9:11 AM GMT
    Well, I agree with her. SIn is sin. Tendency is Tendency.
  • DR2K

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    Oct 20, 2012 9:22 AM GMT
    Sin could easily be the name of her lesbian lover.
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    Oct 20, 2012 9:50 AM GMT
    A little background, since I know Concordia in Moorhead, Minnesota. (And BTW, "Moorhead" was named for being a boat mooring point on the Red River for early traders from Winnipeg, Canada, and has nothing to do with giving more head)

    It's a Lutheran college, where my ex-BF graduated, and it has a renowned chorus. Some of its students were regulars at the area's only gay bar about half a mile away. They didn't have an official GLBT student group during the time I lived there. That club existed on a Minnesota State University campus branch just a few blocks from them, where I took some courses. And where they had drag shows in the main ballroom of the student union.

    I was a member of that MSU gay student group, which accepted Concordia students during that period (not sure now). Concordia, MSU Moorhead, and the nearby North Dakota State University in Fargo formed a unified college contingent within the Fargo chapter of Equality North Dakota, of which my best friend was the State President and ran our local meetings.

    Therefore, although Concordia GLBT students didn't have their own campus group, they could find support in the general community. Nor was the campus known as being gay hostile, despite an otherwise conservative Lutheran atmosphere. It's really quite small anyway, less than 3000 students, and considers itself a bit elite.

    This Rebecca Julius doesn't entirely surprise me, since there are pockets of extreme religious and political conservatism throughout that area. It also wouldn't surprise me if the majority of other students don't support her.

    The region has a contradictory approach to gay issues: most people are very accepting on a personal basis and don't care much about your private life. But if politicians force them to choose on a ballot between gay rights and "traditional family values" and religious teachings, they'll vote gay rights down. Then they'll go back to inviting their gay friends over for dinner.

    So in that sense this Julius student is a bit of an anomaly there. People don't attack other people personally (a trait the RJ conservaposse could use). Which is why I suspect she'll find little support, even among those Concordia students who aren't particularly gay friendly. And make her campus a joke with the area's other 2 colleges. That alone may cause the school administration to lean on her a little, to tone this down.
  • Sparkycat

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    Oct 20, 2012 10:38 AM GMT
    big fuckin' deal....
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    Oct 20, 2012 12:05 PM GMT
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    skykey saidBreathe, it's not the end of the world. It's just a shirt nothing to get offended about.


    You are right until the end. It's not the end of the world, it's just a shirt. But I'm offended. Why aren't you?

    It amazes me how many gay men make excuses for their oppressors.



    Because she and her views aren't relevant in my life. Most of the time, I have people like on ignore.


    That's a good way not to get personally twisted up in knots about homophobes. But they are relevant to your life, in general. Why no public pics?
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    Oct 20, 2012 12:11 PM GMT
    Sin IS Sin.

    And, let any among us who is without sin cast the first stone.

    Pray for her.
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    Oct 20, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidSin IS Sin.

    And, let any among us who is without sin cast the first stone.

    Pray for her.

    Dahh, you beat me to it! If "Sin IS Sin", than she just damned herself, silly sinners... as much as they people claim to be about Jesus, GOD and Bible and still can't see that GOD is the only one who can judge... I'll forget about her like a fart in the wind... next!
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    Oct 20, 2012 12:41 PM GMT
    Good point.

    "Sin IS Sin" is a familiar adage for Christians....and others of faith.

    But it's almost always used to say "DON'T JUDGE".

    With her continued spiritual growth, I hope this young lesbian will come to see the Light.

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    Oct 20, 2012 12:54 PM GMT
    I read her statements and I just don't understand the mindset of people like her. She's so damn self-centered and self-important.
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    Oct 20, 2012 2:49 PM GMT
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    Then they'll have a frisky tickle fight and make juicy love.



    Fish juice! BARF!


    I laughed. Out loud!
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    Oct 20, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    I'm actually fine with the front of the shirt. Less so with the back, because it's inconsistent and hopelessly incomplete. If she's so devout and absolute, why not put ALL the verses about sin (Starting from the "Don't let me catch you eatin' that apple!" one on down) on the shirt? It's the Holey Buybull, not a party platter!
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    Oct 20, 2012 3:11 PM GMT
    Sure hope that shirt is 100% cotton. After all, sin is sin, n'est-ce pas? icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 20, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidShe has a right to express herself.

    And someday, she and her lesbian partner, will look back at this as part of her coming-out process.......and they will laugh.

    Then they'll have a frisky tickle fight and make juicy love.

    But just like her tee shirt, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.


    Awesome. And anyway, if anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

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    Oct 20, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidShe has a right to express herself.

    And someday, she and her lesbian partner, will look back at this as part of her coming-out process.......and they will laugh.

    Then they'll have a frisky tickle fight and make juicy love.

    But just like her tee shirt, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.


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    Oct 20, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    This college is affiliated with the more liberal branch of the Lutheran church so it's not surprising that they have some LGBT activity there. And it's not surprising that there are students who tend to take a more literal meaning of parts of scripture since that's what many learn from the pulpit growing up.

    The Lutheran church is actually pretty good about NOT preaching against any one sin, and yes they do believe homosexuality is a sin, but instead do believe that 'sin is sin'. It's a slippery slope when you point to any single sin and without recognition of the many more that Christian violate each and everyday.

    GAMRican really sums it up best with the scripture verse 'He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone'. I'm not ducking or taking refuge as I'm not expecting many stones to be thrown, at least not from this group! LOL
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    Oct 20, 2012 6:08 PM GMT
    Let her express herself...

    Then the GSA club should print a shirt that lists all of the common sins that Christians like to participate in...

    Gluttony
    Gossip
    Lot loving one's neighbor
    Hate
    Pride