men have always been treated as dispensable with whole chivalry thing, do you think It SHOULD be women and children first?

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:24 AM GMT

    In Titanic the women and children were allowed to fill the boats first. And the men who tried to get on the lifeboats were prevented & shot on the arm or leg.
    men have always been treated as dispensable with whole chivalry thing
    would there be any chance of this happening in the modern world?
    Although the children deserve to go first, women do not, because they are grown ups just like men. Just becuz the old broad gots a kid doesnt mean shes getting a free pass, the kids can sit on my lap !!!
    And do you think It SHOULD be women and children first?
  • kew1

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:31 AM GMT
    The Titanic was an aberration,
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22119-sinking-the-titanic-women-and-children-first-myth.html , in general men have had a higher survival rate in ship-wrecks.
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    Oct 22, 2012 9:45 AM GMT
    Kid and MOTHERS first, maybe, but if u ain't got a kid get the hell out ma way.
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    Oct 22, 2012 9:56 AM GMT
    I don't think that rule applies anymore.
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    Oct 22, 2012 10:33 AM GMT
    When I'm at work, I'm always seen as the dude who picks things up and puts them down. I work at Victoria's Secret and I'm the only guy out of about 50 employees. I know they respect me. But I always stress to them that viewing me in that respect, as a brute that's only good for heavy lifting, is very condescending. So I encourage them to ask nicely, thank me for helping them, and give them a figurative pat on the back when I see them lifting on their own. So they know they can do hard labor, too.
  • kevmoran

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    Oct 22, 2012 12:29 PM GMT
    Children, yes. But as far as I know, women still have two legs that work.
  • Lucrehulk

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    Oct 22, 2012 12:34 PM GMT
    Jaxe saidI don't think that rule applies anymore.


    It's not a rule. It's just conservative, backward sentiment.

    I do not acknowledge that chivalry exists, so my answer is NO.
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:49 PM GMT
    Lucrehulk saidI do not acknowledge that chivalry exists, so my answer is NO.
    so basically ur a selfish dick
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:51 PM GMT
    McQueen said
    Lucrehulk saidI do not acknowledge that chivalry exists, so my answer is NO.
    so basically ur a selfish dick


    I am selfish. What of it?
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
    Lucrehulk said
    McQueen said
    Lucrehulk saidI do not acknowledge that chivalry exists, so my answer is NO.
    so basically ur a selfish dick
    I am selfish. What of it?
    it's rude that's all
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:56 PM GMT
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  • Lucrehulk

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    Oct 22, 2012 12:56 PM GMT
    Rude is a subjective thought.
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:58 PM GMT
    Lucrehulk saidRude is a subjective thought.
    Not really. Most people know what rude is and isn't. They just usually don't acknowledge or care that they're being rude.
  • galant506

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    Oct 22, 2012 1:01 PM GMT
    Why do Children deserve to go first?
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:04 PM GMT
    Women are physically weaker, so they need a little head start to level the playing field. I think it is a species survival instinct for men to protect women.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:24 PM GMT
    Maybe younger people first but fuck that... First come first served.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:32 PM GMT
    The ol'man had something like this in one of his boats...
    Nau1683-500x500.jpg

    but also...

    http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/cruiseship.asp

    re: "There are three things I like about Italian ships. First, their cuisine, which is unsurpassed. Second, their service, which is quite superb. And then — in time of emergency — there is none of this nonsense about women and children first." ~~supposedly Churchill
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:17 PM GMT
    I have no problem with this rule. Both children are females, for the most part, are physically weaker than males. I see no problem in accommodating for them. It doesn't take much effort. I look at this way, that's somebody's mother or sister. I treat them with as much respect and courtesy as I would like my own to be treated. In Mexico City, there are peak hours where only women and children can ride in certain metro trains, again, this is for their own safety and I don't see a problem with these privileges.

    JUST MY OPINION - don't want everybody and their mamma attacking my ass!
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    NormalGuy93 saidMaybe younger people first but fuck that... First come first served.


    lol XD
  • in_this_corne...

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    Oct 22, 2012 2:28 PM GMT
    It's just polite, but shouldn't be expected. I try and always do chivalrous things for people around me when presented an opportunity, even the men.
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    Panpano said
    In Titanic the women and children were allowed to fill the boats first. And the men who tried to get on the lifeboats were prevented & shot on the arm or leg.
    men have always been treated as dispensable with whole chivalry thing
    would there be any chance of this happening in the modern world?
    Although the children deserve to go first, women do not, because they are grown ups just like men. Just becuz the old broad gots a kid doesnt mean shes getting a free pass, the kids can sit on my lap !!!
    And do you think It SHOULD be women and children first?


    Totally. Throughout the course of human history, men got the short end of the stick. Oh wait...icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Medjai

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    Oct 22, 2012 2:50 PM GMT
    McQueen said
    Lucrehulk saidRude is a subjective thought.
    Not really. Most people know what rude is and isn't. They just usually don't acknowledge or care that they're being rude.


    Sexism is rude too.

    Children get priority because they are weaker, and because they have a whole life to live. Saying women also get precedence over men implies they are also weaker and less capable than men, and thus need protection. It's demeaning and inherently sexist.

    Women deserve no more inherent priority than men. It should be children and parents perhaps? I have a few other selection methods I'd prefer to those currently used, but they're a touch idealistic.
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:50 PM GMT
    redsoxfan791 said
    Panpano said
    In Titanic the women and children were allowed to fill the boats first. And the men who tried to get on the lifeboats were prevented & shot on the arm or leg.
    men have always been treated as dispensable with whole chivalry thing
    would there be any chance of this happening in the modern world?
    Although the children deserve to go first, women do not, because they are grown ups just like men. Just becuz the old broad gots a kid doesnt mean shes getting a free pass, the kids can sit on my lap !!!
    And do you think It SHOULD be women and children first?


    Totally. Throughout the course of human history, men got the short end of the stick. Oh wait...icon_rolleyes.gif


    We get to take a leak anywhere though. Evens out, right?
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    Oct 22, 2012 3:24 PM GMT
    galant506 saidWhy do Children deserve to go first?
    They are the most helpless.
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    Oct 22, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    McQueen said
    Lucrehulk saidRude is a subjective thought.
    Not really. Most people know what rude is and isn't. They just usually don't acknowledge or care that they're being rude.
    Sexism is rude too.
    Children get priority because they are weaker, and because they have a whole life to live. Saying women also get precedence over men implies they are also weaker and less capable than men, and thus need protection. It's demeaning and inherently sexist.
    Women deserve no more inherent priority than men. It should be children and parents perhaps? I have a few other selection methods I'd prefer to those currently used, but they're a touch idealistic.
    I only said that mothers should be first. You know, the mother of the child, because if their parents die that's gonna suck a lot more for the kid than if you have to wait a minute for mama to follow her baby off a sinking ship. Also, if you're in the position that you're standing behind children and their mothers in line to get off the boat, I'm pretty sure you're not about to get caught in a room on board and go down with the ship and you likely won't die anyways.