Gold Star Mother: Romney Skipped Funeral, Left "Bullying" Messages

  • MusclFurPeX

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:21 PM GMT
    Appearing on ABC’s The View this past Thursday, Ann Romney claimed that her husband, as governor of Massachusetts, “went to every funeral” of fallen soldiers from the Commonwealth. She spoke of the difficult role he had “to comfort those that have lost a loved one and have gone in harm’s way.”

    But Mitt Romney did not attend every soldier’s funeral; there were at least two cases where he did not.

    And in one of those cases, a Gold Star mother claims that, far from comforting, Romney left insensitive phone messages – messages that she calls “bullying” and her husband describes as “abusive.”

    “I can’t believe you haven’t returned my call,” Romney said on one of the voice mail messages, according to Stephany Kern, speaking at her Westerly, Rhode Island home this past Saturday. “Here I am making a second call; I haven’t heard from you.”

    Kern did not save the messages. This is the first time she has spoken publicly about them.

    Kern’s son, Marine Lance Corporal Nickolas Schiavoni, was killed by an IED explosion in Iraq on November 15, 2005. He was born and lived his entire life in the Haverhill, Massachusetts, area, and his funeral took place in Haverhill on November 26. His grandfather, David Swartz -- Kern's father -- was a well-known attorney, prosecutor, and city councilor in that city.

    Romney did not attend the wake or funeral, according to reports from the time. The Phoenix has been unable to confirm Kern’s claim that no representative of the governor attended the wake or funeral. The Romney campaign has not responded to inquiries.

    The Phoenix could find no record of Romney’s whereabouts on the day of the funeral, which took place on the Saturday two days after Thanksgiving. Romney had been in Boston earlier in the week. The following Tuesday, Romney flew to California for the Republican Governors Association annual meeting. Kern says that in the third message he left, Romney mentioned being at the Governors meeting.

    Schiavoni, who had previously earned a Purple Heart, died on a mission to rescue other soldiers near Al Karmah. He was driving when a rigged vehicle on the road exploded, doing so much damage that Marines had to return to the site later, to recover pieces of his body before he was flown home.

    Mrs. Kern says that many officials, including Romney and Senators John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, left messages for her the day after her son died. She felt unable to speak to anyone in those initial days. “I didn’t listen to any of the calls,” she says.

    Only Romney, she says, complained in a second message that she had not called back.

    “He was completely unable to understand that a mom was not going to return his phone call, and that it wasn’t a priority for me,” she says. “I wasn’t being disrespectful. I was being a mom who was greeting the casket of her son coming home from war.”

    She says that Senators Kennedy and Kerry called other family members to ask when it would be appropriate to contact her again. Both sent representatives to the funeral. Kennedy left a follow-up message to say that a mass would be sent for Shiavoni in Hyannisport, with Kennedy family members in attendance.

    It was around the time of that Kennedy message, she says, when "I got the [second] phone call from Governor Romney, who could not believe -- could not believe -- that I hadn't returned his phone call. It was shocking to me.... And I think that just bypassed me until I got the third phone call. The third phone call was outrageous."

    Steve Kern, who has been married to Stephany Kern since prior to Schiavoni enlisting in 2002, says that he heard Romney’s second and third messages.

    He recalls Romney saying in one: “I’m a busy man.” He describes Romney’s tone as “disrespectful,” “antagonistic,” and “absolutely inappropriate to use on a Gold Star mother.”

    Some weeks later, Kern says, someone from Romney's office called her to say that Romney intended to visit Sciavoni's gravesite. Kern asked that he not do so if he intended to have his photograph taken there; she does not know whether Romney visited or not.

    Schiavoni’s widow, who is remarried and living in Texas; could not be reached for comment. Neither could Schiavoni’s father, who still lives in Massachusetts.
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    Oct 22, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
    MusclFurPeX said
    He recalls Romney saying in one: “I’m a busy man.” He describes Romney’s tone as “disrespectful,” “antagonistic,” and “absolutely inappropriate to use on a Gold Star mother.”


    Hardly surprising, given what we know about his attitude toward the '47 percent'.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
    MusclFurPeX said
    But Mitt Romney did not attend every soldier’s funeral; there were at least two cases where he did not.

    Oh the horrors!!! Stop the presses!!!! Romney missed TWO funerals!!!! Obama sure can capitalize on this outrage icon_rolleyes.gif

    MusclFurPeX saidRomney left insensitive phone messages – messages that she calls “bullying” and her husband describes as “abusive.” Kern did not save the messages.

    Of course she didn't. How convenient. Can you just smell the stench of desperation? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 22, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidCan you just smell the stench of desperation? icon_rolleyes.gif



    The democrats are scared to death. Desperation is an understatement. Examples of this is all over these forums and everywhere you look in the press. They are really scared, and with good reason. The debate tonight should make all of this a foregone conclusion. Unless Romney blows it in a major way, this election is his to lose.
  • coolarmydude

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
    Desperation? This isn't part of Obama's campaign. This is a Gold Star Mother's story, coming forward. And who would keep messages like that?

    Don't be so insensitive. She is factually a Gold Star Mother. She lost more than you or I ever will.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said This isn't part of Obama's campaign. This is a Gold Star Mother's story, coming forward.



    Just when you think you have heard it all. C'mon, CoolArmyDude, surely you're not THAT gullible? The irony is that this silly non-story would probably help Romney if anything. He missed TWO funerals. What a horrible Governor!!!
  • coolarmydude

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:55 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    coolarmydude said This isn't part of Obama's campaign. This is a Gold Star Mother's story, coming forward.



    Just when you think you have heard it all. C'mon, CoolArmyDude, surely you're not THAT gullible? The irony is that this silly non-story would probably help Romney if anything. He missed TWO funerals. What a horrible Governor!!!


    Yeah, he missed two funerals and replaced them with insensitive 'Country First' phone calls.
  • MusclFurPeX

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    Oct 22, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    coolarmydude said This isn't part of Obama's campaign. This is a Gold Star Mother's story, coming forward.



    Just when you think you have heard it all. C'mon, CoolArmyDude, surely you're not THAT gullible? The irony is that this silly non-story would probably help Romney if anything. He missed TWO funerals. What a horrible Governor!!!


    jockaz doesn't believe a hero's mother but believes a lying draft dodger's lies(549 lies documented in 32 weeks by Romney)

    Yes, R-money missed funerals and Queen Ann said he never missed any funerals,....I CAN'T BELIEVE IT A ROMNEY LIED?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Oct 22, 2012 10:18 PM GMT
    MusclFurPeX said
    jockaz doesn't believe a hero's mother but believes a lying draft dodger's lies(549 lies documented in 32 weeks by Romney)

    Yes, R-money missed funerals and Queen Ann said he never missed any funerals,....I CAN'T BELIEVE IT A ROMNEY LIED?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    I agree with CuriousJockAZ. This whole story sounds like a political ploy that isn't even something that would be that important to voters. Even if it was, don't you think that voters would be more interested in the number of funerals the Governor did go to, not the two that he didn't? It is beginning to look like the democrats, in their moment of dire desperation, are just throwing anything they can against the wall and hope something sticks. Americans will see this.
  • coolarmydude

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    Oct 22, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    DontQuoteMe said


    I agree with CuriousJockAZ. This whole story sounds like a political ploy that isn't even something that would be that important to voters. Even if it was, don't you think that voters would be more interested in the number of funerals the Governor did go to, not the two that he didn't? It is beginning to look like the democrats, in their moment of dire desperation, are just throwing anything they can against the wall and hope something sticks. Americans will see this.


    It wasn't about the funerals that he missed. It was about the phone messages he made.

    But this line of attack on a Gold Star Mother is typical of Republicans who are suspicious of criticisms. Remember Cindy Sheehan? 9/11 widows?

    Typical.
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    Oct 22, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    MusclFurPeX saidAnd in one of those cases, a Gold Star mother claims that, far from comforting, Romney left insensitive phone messages – messages that she calls “bullying” and her husband describes as “abusive.”

    “I can’t believe you haven’t returned my call,” Romney said on one of the voice mail messages, according to Stephany Kern, speaking at her Westerly, Rhode Island home this past Saturday. “Here I am making a second call; I haven’t heard from you.”

    ...She says that Senators Kennedy and Kerry called other family members to ask when it would be appropriate to contact her again. Both sent representatives to the funeral. Kennedy left a follow-up message to say that a mass would be sent for Shiavoni in Hyannisport, with Kennedy family members in attendance....


    CuriousJockAZ saidOh the horrors!!! Stop the presses!!!! icon_rolleyes.gif


    yet CuriousJockAZ said recently in another thread on the phred phelps protestsDo the family members not have a right to bury the dead in peace?


    Yes CuriousJAZ, they ought to have that right. And our government officials ought to be able to put their vulgar displays of ego aside while a mother buries her son.

    If this story of selfishness is true, and why would a grieving mother lie & bring this press upon herself, you have no legitimate ground to protest with any sort of trumped up justification here. Wrong is wrong.