Smoke Free Santa

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    Oct 22, 2012 11:30 PM GMT
    In with the first holiday thread of the season:
    A Canadian author has rewritten and republished a version of The Night Before Christmas that eliminates any mention of Santa smoking a pipe. Normally I'm a huge traditionalist when it comes to the holidays but I actually don't have a problem with this. I do draw the line though if his belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly becomes an 8 pack. What do you think? Do we owe it to our children to make Santa a healthier role model?


  • mizu5

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    Oct 22, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
    ehhh I don't mind it but I think it's overkill.

    No one is picking up a pipe and smoking it, and most kids have no concept there is connection between a pipe and smokes.
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    Oct 22, 2012 11:33 PM GMT
    I actually don't even remember him smoking from a pipe in any story... but it's a good thought. Even though I seriously doubt little kids consider Santa if they think about trying to smoke. When they think Santa they think gifts, and that takes their mind off anything else.

    Basically, it's a small detail so it won't be missed in my book. And if there is anyone out there that thought that since Santa smoked, it's OK for them... now it's gone icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 22, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    Does this mean we can't leave milk and cookies? My dad, I mean Santa, would have been really disappointed if there weren't any left out for him.
  • Timbales

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    Oct 23, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    fine by me
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:40 AM GMT
    If Santa had an 8-pack he wouldn't have to rely on little children to get his thrills.
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:49 AM GMT
    Coach_Mike saidIn with the first holiday thread of the season:
    A Canadian author has rewritten and republished a version of The Night Before Christmas that eliminates any mention of Santa smoking a pipe. Normally I'm a huge traditionalist when it comes to the holidays but I actually don't have a problem with this. I do draw the line though if his belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly becomes an 8 pack. What do you think? Do we owe it to our children to make Santa a healthier role model?




    I find it silly, and too politically correct. He also climbs down inside chimneys which nowadays end in air tight glassed in gas fireplaces, carries a bag of toys that would have to weight 18 jillion pounds and rides a sleigh of drawn by flying reindeer to somehow visit a billion households in 24 hours.,,,and that white fur from some now endangered species has got to go, eh?

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    Oct 23, 2012 12:49 AM GMT
    I agree! I am definitely not against giving the youth better and healthier role models to be inspired by. I don't think that the story of Santa directly encourages six year olds to develop a tobacco addiction, but I can see how depicting Santa with a pipe would normalize the action of engaging in tobacco use.
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:51 AM GMT
    "I'mma smoke dis pipe cuz santa says it's ok."

    Said no one ever.
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:54 AM GMT
    vacuumfun saidI agree! I am definitely not against giving the youth better and healthier role models to be inspired by. I don't think that the story of Santa directly encourages six year olds to develop a tobacco addiction, but I can see how depicting Santa with a pipe would normalize the action of engaging in tobacco use.


    In that case there are possibly thousands of old movies that should be censored and removed. icon_wink.gif

    This also means that any movie or story or music depicting any kind of violence will immediately make kids want to do it, too. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:58 AM GMT
    Bullwinklemoos said"I'mma smoke dis pipe cuz santa says it's ok."

    Said no one ever.
    The pipe isn't what's important. What's in the pipe, is. icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    vacuumfun saidI agree! I am definitely not against giving the youth better and healthier role models to be inspired by. I don't think that the story of Santa directly encourages six year olds to develop a tobacco addiction, but I can see how depicting Santa with a pipe would normalize the action of engaging in tobacco use.


    In that case there are possibly thousands of old movies that should be censored and removed. icon_wink.gif

    This also means that any movie or story or music depicting any kind of violence will immediately make kids want to do it, too. icon_wink.gif


    Um, I am pretty sure that I said depicting Santa with a pipe would just NORMALIZE the action of engaging in tobacco use, rather than "immediately make kids want to do it."
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
    This is like the movie ET digitally remastered without guns. We can only coddle our children so much.

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  • Vaughn

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    Oct 23, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    Coach_Mike saidIn with the first holiday thread of the season:
    A Canadian author has rewritten and republished a version of The Night Before Christmas that eliminates any mention of Santa smoking a pipe. Normally I'm a huge traditionalist when it comes to the holidays but I actually don't have a problem with this. I do draw the line though if his belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly becomes an 8 pack. What do you think? Do we owe it to our children to make Santa a healthier role model?




    If we were going to make him a healthier role model then he needs to loose the belly.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28202674/ns/today-holiday_guide/t/hunky-santa-mall-sooooooooooo-la/
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:17 AM GMT
    solution:
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:23 AM GMT
    I think the sadder part is that the modern worldwide image perception of Santa Claus (big fat dude in a red suit with a white beard) was invented by Coca Cola. The original santa was just some Norse folk tale dude in a drab cloak.
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:27 AM GMT
    vacuumfun said
    meninlove said
    vacuumfun saidI agree! I am definitely not against giving the youth better and healthier role models to be inspired by. I don't think that the story of Santa directly encourages six year olds to develop a tobacco addiction, but I can see how depicting Santa with a pipe would normalize the action of engaging in tobacco use.


    In that case there are possibly thousands of old movies that should be censored and removed. icon_wink.gif

    This also means that any movie or story or music depicting any kind of violence will immediately make kids want to do it, too. icon_wink.gif


    Um, I am pretty sure that I said depicting Santa with a pipe would just NORMALIZE the action of engaging in tobacco use, rather than "immediately make kids want to do it."

    Good point.
    So....In that case there are possibly thousands of old movies that should be censored and removed. icon_wink.gif

    This also means that any movie or story or music depicting any kind of violence would normalize the actions of violence etc.

    There you go. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:31 AM GMT
    Here's the statement by the author (who by the way spent $200,000 of her own money to self-publish the new edition.....apparently she's a serious anti-smoking crusader):
    "This is not about telling a 65 year old that they shouldn't be reading an edition with smoking Santa, this is about protecting the youngest of readers from positive imagery of smoking that can contribute to their subsequent sympathy to nicotine which is the most addictive and dangerous drug of all, that kills more people than any other disease and places the greatest strain on the healthcare systems."

    Reaction so far seems to be decidedly negative. Fox News is particularly anti-non-smoking Santa. The author must be a Democrat.
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:36 AM GMT
    snowman3 saidDoes this mean we can't leave milk and cookies? My dad, I mean Santa, would have been really disappointed if there weren't any left out for him.


    How about a nice birdseed and kale green salad, and a glass of 100% organic carrot juice?
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    Oct 23, 2012 1:38 AM GMT
    Runninchlt saidand a glass of 100% organic carrot juice?


    That sounds awfully preservative-free. Best to leave it in an ice bucket next to the salad to make sure it keeps well.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 23, 2012 1:41 AM GMT
    I'm for a smokin' hot Santa

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    Oct 23, 2012 1:41 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    Runninchlt saidand a glass of 100% organic carrot juice?


    That sounds awfully preservative-free. Best to leave it in an ice bucket next to the salad to make sure it keeps well.



    Would blending the carrot juice with cookies make it keep better?
  • Montague

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    Oct 23, 2012 1:58 AM GMT
    Whatever. I'd just put more cigarette placements into popular movies and TV shows.
  • Medjai

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    Oct 23, 2012 2:05 AM GMT
    http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Correct-Bedtime-Stories-Garner/dp/0285640410