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    Sep 01, 2008 10:40 PM GMT
    The thing that defines the political conservative is fear.

    Fear of others--Muslims, gays, illegal immigrants.
    Fear of change.
    Fear of government.
    Fear of crime, even when crime is dropping.
    Fear of people who believe in different religions, or none at all.
    Fear of science.

    Liberals are not about fear. Change is welcomed--if there is a better, newer way to solve a problem, we're all for trying it. If someone new and different comes into the neighborhood, we don't lock the shutters, we come over with a pie. We don't look at the future and anticipate disasters, we look with hope and confidence.

    All of that smugness, the bluster, and the fake bravado of our right-wing friends is nothing but a pale attempt to make themselves feel a little less afraid.

    It's a wonder these girls have the strength to get out of bed in the morning.

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    Sep 02, 2008 2:12 AM GMT
    "All of that smugness, the bluster, and the fake bravado of our right-wing friends is nothing but a pale attempt to make themselves feel a little less afraid."

    Because, you know, there's no smugness in liberals. As, perhaps, expressed by this post.

    On quite a large number of political matters, reasonable people can disagree. There are some issues where I don't think either side has the right answer, and when I do feel one side is more correct than the other on a given issue, that doesn't mean that they're more correct on the next one down the line. That's one of the huge drawbacks of a two party system.

    There certainly are real men who are liberals. And there are certainly real men who are conservatives. But, in my mind, real men--real adults who happen to be male--are those who routinely challenge their assumptions and listen to the details of the other person's ideas, and the reasons behind them. Neither of the two major political parties in this country seem, on the whole, to be have all that many people who routinely do that.
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    Sep 02, 2008 2:16 AM GMT
    "People shouldn't be afraid of their government, their government should be afraid of it's people."

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    Sep 02, 2008 2:31 AM GMT

    This thing is set to explode. I guess it goes without saying but, "Duck your weave ladies!" ...and go easy on the Aqua Net.
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    Sep 02, 2008 2:34 AM GMT
    What the hell does "Real men" even mean!?!??!
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    Sep 02, 2008 2:34 AM GMT
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    *ducks his weave*
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    Sep 02, 2008 2:35 AM GMT
    Yay... another one of these topics.
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    Sep 02, 2008 2:53 AM GMT
    Buffyfan84 said"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, their government should be afraid of it's people."

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    I loved that line. That was an awesome movie.
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    Sep 02, 2008 3:14 AM GMT
    jprichva saidThe thing that defines the political conservative is fear.

    Fear of others--Muslims, gays, illegal immigrants.
    Fear of change.
    Fear of government.
    Fear of crime, even when crime is dropping.
    Fear of people who believe in different religions, or none at all.
    Fear of science.

    Liberals are not about fear. Change is welcomed--if there is a better, newer way to solve a problem, we're all for trying it. If someone new and different comes into the neighborhood, we don't lock the shutters, we come over with a pie. We don't look at the future and anticipate disasters, we look with hope and confidence.

    All of that smugness, the bluster, and the fake bravado of our right-wing friends is nothing but a pale attempt to make themselves feel a little less afraid.

    It's a wonder these girls have the strength to get out of bed in the morning.



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    Sep 02, 2008 3:50 AM GMT

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    Sep 02, 2008 7:41 AM GMT
    jprichva said

    Fear of others--Muslims



    Yeah liberals aren't afraid of Muslims. That's why they invite Muslims into their country, and then gradually get overrun by the growing Muslim population as the Muslims refuse to assimilate.

    Left is the new right. A real man is moderate.
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    Sep 02, 2008 7:54 AM GMT
    Aw, come on guys, I try to pick a fight and this is all I get?? icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 02, 2008 7:57 AM GMT
    You are trying to pick a fight. LOL. It is very early though.
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    Sep 02, 2008 8:06 AM GMT
    Yes all the evil Muslims are all sleepers waiting to blow themselves up, they are also ALL extremists who can not integrate themselves, stereotyping for the win. And they overrun EVERYTHING.

    Weird that exactly in these countries the acceptance for foreigners is not so backward as your opinion.

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    Sep 02, 2008 9:49 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said
    Buffyfan84 said"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, their government should be afraid of it's people."

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    I loved that line. That was an awesome movie.


    lol. I know!! It's awesome!!!
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    Sep 02, 2008 11:40 PM GMT

    Jprichva, I guess people just respect you too much to show their leatard in here. I guess you can take comfort in that, because the subject matter is plenty volatile.

    "Stop telling me who's dangerous and who isn't and who's safe and who's a menace! And, you're with him too, all of you! You are all standing out here all set to crucify somebody. You're all set to find a scapegoat! You are all desperate to point some kind of a finger at a neighbor! Well believe me friends, the only thing that is gonna happen is that we are gonna eat eachother up alive!"

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    Sep 03, 2008 12:12 AM GMT
    Damn it, Guilty, I was so bored...and I was looking for a good fight.

    Sigh.
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    Sep 03, 2008 12:34 AM GMT

    I'm baffled by it. You had all the right ingredients.
    Alls I can guess is that people start flame wars only if they don't respect the OP.
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    Sep 03, 2008 2:54 AM GMT
    Librarian saidYes all the evil Muslims are all sleepers waiting to blow themselves up, they are also ALL extremists who can not integrate themselves, stereotyping for the win. And they overrun EVERYTHING.

    Weird that exactly in these countries the acceptance for foreigners is not so backward as your opinion.

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    Oh my bad. I guess Asians, Hispanics and White people blow themselves up in the name of Allah and Islam. Isn't that right? Matter of fact a Christian the other day blew himself up in the market in the name of Jesus too right? In fact if I do a search on google it's totally not going to be all Muslims...right? Wait, nope. It's just Muslims.

    Your second point doesn't work in this argument because I said Muslims do not ASSIMILATE. This has nothing to do with which countries take in the most amount of people. This has everything to do with Muslims coming into countries and NOT assimilating. What does this mean? It means throwing their women into black penguin suits and setting them off everyday to shop for perfume in 90 degree weather while they beat their daughters for not marrying within the same religion, and then getting into politics making anti-Semitic laws, such as Belgium where if you are seen with an Israeli flag you go to jail.

    Yeah not all Muslims are bad people. In fact I think the guys are hot and think Arabs overall are sexy as shit. But the majority of the conservative ones (which seems to be the majority of the immigrants lately) certainly have a problem adapting to whichever country they immigrate to.

    Anyway what was the point of your graph you posted? Other than a tangent that had nothing to do with my "backwards" argument?

    Do me a favor and take a field trip to Dachau. Notice any Muslims? I bet you won't. I didn't when I went there last month. I noticed quite a bit of everyone else though. Why is it that Muslims don't visit concentration camps, but you can count about 10-15 penguins in every shopping block you walk down in Munich? They're immigrating but not integrating. Just retaining their conservative oppressive ways. And anti-semitism.
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    Sep 03, 2008 3:00 AM GMT
    People not wanting to start anything could be because, the topic of politics is in overdrive here on RJ. We'll have a new thread starting in about 10 minutes.
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    Sep 03, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
    jprichva saidDamn it, Guilty, I was looking for a good fight.



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