When did Halloween start October 1st?

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    Oct 24, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    I missed the memo. Without fail every Oct 1st the front lawn of every suburban family looks like it was hit with debris from a supermarket parking lot explosion, as do the festooned apartment doors of some of even the strictest co-ops. Yes, this same merchandising conspiracy jump-starts Thanksgiving on Nov 1st and Christmas Dec 1st but when did this all begin? I recall decorations not going up until at least mid-month for these holidays.
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    Since I have a small business, I get bombarded by advertisements from marketing companies. They suggest that I should be in full-blown panic about christmas marketing by sometime in July. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Not that it has any relevance whatsoever to my business.

    I don't recall seeing any such imperatives about halloween...
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    Not_Superman saidThat doesn't happen so much in Canada, because we have to have Thanks Giving first.
    It upsets me me more that Christmas now starts before Remembrance Day.
    Well you Canadians should stop letting the Americans influence your society so much. Tell us Americans to keep our greedy, consumerist ideologies south of the border, it is that pure and simple.
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    Oct 24, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    I love Halloween and the decorations, the fuck is such a problem for you?
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    Oct 24, 2012 6:10 PM GMT
    Halloween decoration go up after July 4th Holidays now. It's fun
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    Oct 24, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
    Geez. Have fun.
    Maybe take a nap and you won't be so grumpy.

    ...but seeing stores carrying xmas decorations in August is disturbing.
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    Oct 24, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
    Macaque saidGeez. Have fun.
    Maybe take a nap and you won't be so grumpy.

    ...but seeing stores carrying xmas decorations in August is disturbing.


    she's always a grumpy gal, complaining about one thing or another.

    OMGZ NOOO! The decorations were up a week earlier!!!!
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    Oct 24, 2012 7:21 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Not_Superman saidThat doesn't happen so much in Canada, because we have to have Thanks Giving first.
    It upsets me me more that Christmas now starts before Remembrance Day.
    Well you Canadians should stop letting the Americans influence your society so much. Tell us Americans to keep our greedy, consumerist ideologies south of the border, it is that pure and simple.


    you americans should keep your greedy, consumerist ideologies south of the border..........see, we are very easy to get along with.....anything else we can do for you?
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    Oct 24, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
    7Famark saidI love Halloween and the decorations, the fuck is such a problem for you?

    Overreact much?

    For one, people are attracting wildlife by continuing to put out on the 1st their pumpkins and gourds, which are half-eaten within a week and then replaced. When I was a kid we put out our pumpkins, carved and otherwise, Halloween Day so we wouldn't have problems with rabid raccoons rooting through our trashbins. Thanks to the parents who I thought would be more responsible I can't leave the trash out the night before but have to drag it to the curb at the crack of dawn, whereas they let their trash fly all over the neighborhood.

    For another, I didn't buy a million dollar apartment in Manhattan's east sixties to look at scotch-taped four leaf clovers on my neighbor's door (a clear violation of coop rules, but boards turn a blind eye where kids are concerned) five month's after St. Patrick's Day.

    There will come a day when you'll realize the holidays are more than about the trappings.
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    Oct 24, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
    ^^^^^^give me your manhattan address, i've got a shitload of scotch tape and paper pumpkins.

    Btw...the reason our parents didn't put out the punkins til h'o'ween night is they couldn't afford to waste money on them any earlier....least in my low class income neighbourhood that was the case.....
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    Oct 24, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    Holidays start whenever stores tell us they start. Costco has Christmas crap out since August.
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    Oct 25, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    Target has Halloween AND Thanksgiving stuff on the shelves, right after the back to school sales in mid September.
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    Oct 25, 2012 1:36 AM GMT
    I think we should just have a week of back to back holidays and get it over with......no one knows what the fuck they mean anymore anyway and then we could pull out the tree, the pumpkin, the dead turkey, the flags and whatever all at once and throw them all together in the garbage after the holiday week was over........works for me.
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    Oct 25, 2012 1:44 AM GMT
    So it's Halloween for a whole month. People who like it decorate, spend money and have a good time. Then it's Thanksgiving for another month, then x-mas and New Years. After 1/1 it's Valentines day in stores, then Easter, Mother's Day, Father's Day, summer, back to school and then we're back at Halloween.

    The American year, brought to you by the wizards from advertising and marketing.
    The only way to get off, is to leave the country or not leave the house.
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    Oct 25, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
    ^^^^ aha, but unfortunately the plague of it all has run off to other countries. what used to be a north american tradition has been sold to latin america, eastern europe, etc by those same commercial wizards who now reap more and more rewards.....so happy hallowmasvaleastmofovetlabor days......
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    Oct 25, 2012 1:52 AM GMT
    A lot of you guys are reading way too much into this. Reread my original post. All I want to know is when the practice of decorating for holidays a month in advance began - that's all. I appreciate kitsch within limits as much as the next guy.
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    Oct 25, 2012 2:11 AM GMT
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    7Famark saidI love Halloween and the decorations, the fuck is such a problem for you?

    Overreact much?

    For one, people are attracting wildlife by continuing to put out on the 1st their pumpkins and gourds, which are half-eaten within a week and then replaced. When I was a kid we put out our pumpkins, carved and otherwise, Halloween Day so we wouldn't have problems with rabid raccoons rooting through our trashbins. Thanks to the parents who I'd think would be more responsible I can't leave the trash out the night before but have to drag it to the curb at the crack of dawn, whereas they let their trash fly all over the neighborhood.

    For another, I didn't buy a million dollar apartment in Manhattan's east sixties to look at scotch-taped four leaf clovers on my neighbor's door (a clear violation of coop rules, but boards turn a blind eye where kids are concerned) five month's after St. Patrick's Day.

    There will come a day when you'll realize the holidays are more than about the trappings.


    Nice slip-in of the price of your apartment. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 25, 2012 2:57 AM GMT
    As I'm sure you're aware giving the price and specific neighborhood was absolutely intentional but you obviously missed why - it was so people could relate to being disappointed after spending a lot of money on something, which is most people. Surely you or your parents have been disappointed by something expensive (like riding lessons or a horse?) and the experience fell short of your expectations. Though I knew a million bucks wouldn't buy me much apartment at that time, in that neck of the woods I did hope to get something for my money aside from sidestepping a paper mache leprechaun en route to the elevator for half the year.
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    Oct 25, 2012 3:04 AM GMT
    The same time people started buying useless shit earlier.
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    Oct 25, 2012 3:09 AM GMT
    People need to buy more conceptual, higher end holiday decor.

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    Oct 25, 2012 3:11 AM GMT
    Halloween is on October 31st... or 30th? One of those. Anyways, that's when it starts; the same day it ends. The extra is just so companies can make money off of you getting into the spirit.
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    Oct 25, 2012 3:12 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidPeople need to buy more conceptual, higher end holiday decor.

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    That was my favorite book you just destroyed! icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 25, 2012 3:13 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidPeople need to buy more conceptual, higher end holiday decor.

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    Actually, the woman across the street from me with grown kids thinks she's Martha Stewart. My next door neighbor once complained to me that when all of their kids were four they'd have to play on the floor because they weren't allowed on the beds with their white coverlets. Egad! Every day in October she blows the leaves off her lawn and sprays her stringed gourd lights with pepper spray to keep the squirrels at bay - she's that fastidious. I'm no fan of either extreme - you should be able to live yet be considerate of your fellow man. That's what the holidays mean to me, not decorations.
  • mrblue

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    Oct 25, 2012 3:16 AM GMT
    Um, I love the month of October. It's like awards season and Halloween is the Oscars.