DrudgeReport, Reuters: "He Knew" - Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on September 11th

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    Oct 24, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    Just as a reminder that the Obama Administration maintained for the first two weeks following the attack that this was the result of a video and went so far as to pressure for the arrest of the producer while apologizing for free speech. Not only has it emerged since then that the Obama Administration denied requests for additional security to Libya, but they have outright lied about the attack as it undercut the Obama Administration's message that it had Al Queda on the run. This, despite the fact that the attack was September 11, 2012.

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    The Linked story is from Reuters -

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024

    Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

    The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

    The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington.

    U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.

    Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

    While officials did mention the possible involvement of "extremists," they did not lay blame on any specific militant groups or possible links to al Qaeda or its affiliates until intelligence officials publicly alleged that on September 28.

    There were indications that extremists with possible al Qaeda connections were involved, but also evidence that the attacks could have erupted spontaneously, they said, adding that government experts wanted to be cautious about pointing fingers prematurely.

    U.S. intelligence officials have emphasized since shortly after the attack that early intelligence reporting about the attack was mixed.

    Spokesmen for the White House and State Department had no immediate response to requests for comments on the emails.
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    More here: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2753087 - it would seem the crazies were the ones who have villified jock_1
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
    No one will care, Obama can do no wrong. These deaths will be written off as collateral damage and forgotten about.
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
    This proves nothing. Militant Middle Eastern groups are usually falling over one another to claim responsibility for any attack on Western interests.

    As for the emails:
    "Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidThis proves nothing. Militant Middle Eastern groups are usually falling over one another to claim responsibility for any attack on Western interests.

    As for the emails:
    "Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024



    You might have a point if Obama had cautioned little was known. Instead he and his administration blatantly blamed a video for causing the attacks.
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    Ex_Mil8 saidThis proves nothing. Militant Middle Eastern groups are usually falling over one another to claim responsibility for any attack on Western interests.

    As for the emails:
    "Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024



    You might have a point if Obama had cautioned little was known. Instead he and his administration blatantly blamed a video for causing the attacks.


    And Romney defended the very same video before the White House ever blamed it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
    Meaning?
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    Lets not forgret that Romney didn't really care if people were killed.He was quick to try and politicize the tragedy

    also posts on twitter and facebook dont count as e-mail

    9-11-2001, remember that? Bush asleep!
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    Blakes7 saidMeaning?


    Romney thought it was about the video too and didn't even know the Ambassador and his staff were getting attacked in Libya when he released his first message, 2 hours before it was supposed to be released. He just couldn't wait to get on with the politics of the situation.
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
    Was he privy to the same info that Obama apparently was?
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    Oct 24, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    I love the spin. You guys would make excuses for the devil.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:19 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidWas he privy to the same info that Obama apparently was?


    No, and that makes it worse, because instead of making political points about facts, he's all about assumptions. But never mind the fact that his message was purely about politics and no disregard for the truth to begin with. Like everything else, he's never been about the truth.


    From a previously scheduled interview conducted with 60 Minutes:

    "It is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt, and my suspicion is that there were folks involved in this who were looking to target Americans from the start."

    President Obama
    September 12, 2012
    abt 6:00 AM EDT
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:22 AM GMT
    Spin.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
    Ignored.

    good riddance...
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:29 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidIgnored.

    good riddance...


    Toodles......
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:30 AM GMT
    Hey, Blakes7(socalfitness)

    Did you have a crap in your Santa pants....

    ...when you read these words from CuriousJockAZ ?:


    " I have stated many MANY times that I have a problem with Mitt Romney in a variety of areas -- not the least of which is
    THE FACT THAT HE IS AGAINST "CIVIL UNIONS" , which I find perplexing and all kinds of disappointing.

    I was also extremely disappointed that
    HE SIGNED "THE PLEDGE" APPEASING THE FAR RIGHT regarding working towards a constitutional amendment for DOMA. "


    Now back to riddler's Drudge BULLSHIT story:

    Read Conservative writer Dave Weigel @ Slate......who destroys Drudge!
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:39 AM GMT
    JockTheVote saidHey, Blakes7(socalfitness)

    Did you have a crap in your Santa pants....

    ...when you read these words from CuriousJockAZ ?:


    " I have stated many MANY times that I have a problem with Mitt Romney in a variety of areas -- not the least of which is
    THE FACT THAT HE IS AGAINST "CIVIL UNIONS" , which I find perplexing and all kinds of disappointing.

    I was also extremely disappointed that
    HE SIGNED "THE PLEDGE" APPEASING THE FAR RIGHT regarding working towards a constitutional amendment for DOMA. "


    Now back to riddler's Drudge BULLSHIT story:

    Read Conservative writer Dave Weigel @ Slate......who destroys Drudge!


    You do know that he just linked to Reuters right? Talk about a failed talking point... this is the problem with ad hominem attacks, you seem to miss the reality that sometimes there are some underlying issues that can't be so easily dismissed - and in this case it wasn't even Drudge's report - but one he highlighted from Reuters!
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:43 AM GMT
    I'm not a one issue voter, and I certainly aint south-this or that. I was born in NY and lived here all of my life. But I happen to love Arizona(not because of any RJers, I just love it there). icon_smile.gif

    That said, sure I want equal marriage rights. Just as important are MANY other issues, and one has to weigh ALL the issues, not just be a single-minded and single-issue zealot. We could all go back and forth all day about each and every issue, which has already been done numerous times on here, long before I found this site a few months ago. We are entitled to our own opinions regarding how national issues should be handled, and I usually side with the right more often than the left. So, there you have it. If someone wants to hate me for being myself, then he's just as hateful and reactionary as the people he speaks out against. icon_exclaim.gif
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:44 AM GMT
    riddler, Your link is to DRUDGE------so don't preach on credible sourcing.

    But if you want to read something indisputable, it is these words from

    our very own CuriousJockAZ:

    " I have stated many MANY times that I have a problem with Mitt Romney in a variety of areas -- not the least of which is
    THE FACT THAT HE IS AGAINST "CIVIL UNIONS" , which I find perplexing and all kinds of disappointing.

    I was also extremely disappointed that
    HE SIGNED "THE PLEDGE" APPEASING THE FAR RIGHT regarding working towards a constitutional amendment for DOMA. "
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:46 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidI'm not a one issue voter, and I certainly aint south-this or that. I was born in NY and lived here all of my life. But I happen to love Arizona(not because of any RJers, I just love it there). icon_smile.gif

    That said, sure I want equal marriage rights. Just as important are MANY other issues, and one has to weigh ALL the issues, not just be a single-minded and single-issue zealot. We could all go back and forth all day about each and every issue, which has already been done numerous times on here, long before I found this site a few months ago. We are entitled to our own opinions regarding how national issues should be handled, and I usually side with the right more often than the left. So, there you have it. If someone wants to hate me for being myself, then he's just as hateful and reactionary as the people he speaks out against. icon_exclaim.gif


    No one is hating you, we just think you're an idiot! And we are perfectly entitled to do so.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:46 AM GMT
    We have the right to debate and disagree with ANY adminstration!!

    Hillary Clinton

    One time I agreed with her.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:48 AM GMT
    Yes, you are. Be aware that I dont think you're an idiot, just mislead on a great many things.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:51 AM GMT
    JockTheVote saidriddler, Your link is to DRUDGE------so don't preach on credible sourcing.

    But if you want to read something indisputable, it is these words from

    our very own CuriousJockAZ:

    " I have stated many MANY times that I have a problem with Mitt Romney in a variety of areas -- not the least of which is
    THE FACT THAT HE IS AGAINST "CIVIL UNIONS" , which I find perplexing and all kinds of disappointing.

    I was also extremely disappointed that
    HE SIGNED "THE PLEDGE" APPEASING THE FAR RIGHT regarding working towards a constitutional amendment for DOMA. "


    Um you must have missed it because my link is to *Reuters* up above. Please at least bother reading before moving on to your talking points.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidYes, you are. Be aware that I dont think you're an idiot, just mislead on a great many things.


    John, socalfitness or Blakes7(if you like),

    You may only believe what you hear on FAUX News......

    but you should listen to the words of your good friend

    CuriousJockAZ when he says:

    " I have stated many MANY times that I have a problem with Mitt Romney in a variety of areas -- not the least of which is
    THE FACT THAT HE IS AGAINST "CIVIL UNIONS" , which I find perplexing and all kinds of disappointing.

    I was also extremely disappointed that
    HE SIGNED "THE PLEDGE" APPEASING THE FAR RIGHT regarding working towards a constitutional amendment for DOMA. "


    btw, John, I'm almost as old as you are-----so you'll understand that I sometimes repeat things I've already said. But I also find this helps with 'slow-learners'.
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:57 AM GMT

    Sometimes I wonder if Riddler's first language is indeed English.

    Let's see...

    "U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.

    Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

    While officials did mention the possible involvement of "extremists," they did not lay blame on any specific militant groups or possible links to al Qaeda or its affiliates until intelligence officials publicly alleged that on September 28.

    There were indications that extremists with possible al Qaeda connections were involved, but also evidence that the attacks could have erupted spontaneously, they said, adding that government experts wanted to be cautious about pointing fingers prematurely.

    U.S. intelligence officials have emphasized since shortly after the attack that early intelligence reporting about the attack was mixed.

    Likely means very possible, Riddler. It does not mean IS.