How many of you are GAY,Christian & Proud ?

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    Oct 27, 2012 4:06 AM GMT
    I dont want all the literature shit against Gays
    I believe my God is the God of love & he cant HATE ANYONE

    coz whoever(gay or straight) believes in him shall be given eternal life [John 3:15]
    Jesus never preached hate, then how the f*ck does someone say God hates F*gs,infact he never said anything against gays ever.

    Just curious to know the Gay Christians here

    read this :

    Matthew 19:10-12 "Here Jesus refers to "eunuchs who have been so from birth." This terminology ("born eunuchs") was used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men. Jesus indicates that being a "born eunuch" is a gift from God. "

    & also

    Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:34 AM GMT
    2 out of 3 here - (first and last)
    But I always wonder, how do you believers know anything of what your God said (if he exists)? Has he spoken to you (while you are not dreaming)?
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:37 AM GMT
    +1 to op's post.

    I believe in one God, and think alot of fanatic religous nuts have focused on the wrong things. They focus on hate, when we should focus on acceptance. Being gay has opened up my eyes to many things, and I think we are made this way for a reason.
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    Oct 27, 2012 6:21 AM GMT
    I believe that there is not some sort of great deity in the universe that gives half a shit what we do on this planet and that when our life ends we simply cease to exist.

    I also believe that if you somehow have fallen for the lies people call religion that you're extremely unintelligent.
  • Medjai

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    Oct 27, 2012 6:23 AM GMT
    I do wonder how one is proud of fact, as opposed to accomplishment.

    I have green eyes and I'm proud of it!

    How about the Mendelian traits? I am proud of my detached ear lobes too! And the ability to smell hydrogen cyande! And being genetically capable of rolling my tongue!

    See how silly being proud of simple facts sounds? Be prod of overcoming the societal hardships imposed on gays, but not simply for being gay...
  • calibro

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    Oct 27, 2012 7:42 AM GMT
    the old testament god seemed to hate a lot of peeps
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    Oct 27, 2012 7:59 AM GMT
    calibro saidthe old testament god seemed to hate a lot of peeps


    I was thinking the same thing! He's always telling people to kill all the men, women, and children, sometimes even all the animals too. People want to get picky and take the good parts while leaving the bad. Religion isn't a buffet.
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    Oct 27, 2012 8:36 AM GMT
    I think I am, I think it's just wise to realize it's a difficult path. The path is not meant to be easy, and I often think God sends me "challenges." Reconcilling Christianity, societal expectations, and my own beliefs are a very difficult balancing act. I'm not sure how a priest in confession with me, if by confessing some sins I mentioned I like men (not confessing being gay as a sin, of course) how he would react, since my church I think is particularly conservative, traditional (as Polish churches tend to be).

    I think it's best to realize that it's your path to walk and choose, and in reality, one Christian should not mind the other one's business. If you come to pray, I think you have a certain privilege of privacy and even if you're a big sinner of any kind, God welcomes all.

    I don't think I'm especially proud, and I never really flaunt that I'm Christian, I prefer to keep that a little private and I don't like controversial discussions that much.
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    Oct 27, 2012 8:49 AM GMT
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  • pharmstudent

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    Oct 27, 2012 9:12 AM GMT
    It was a big turn off for me when I finally read the candid but really hateful remarks about gays in the Bibble. So, now, I'm border line atheist and it really makes the whole "gay sin" mentality a joke. I still go to church but just for the social interaction and because I admire it for its simplistic moral teachings.

    In short, I think the Bible is just an adult version of fairy tales- or ethics for dummies.
  • booboolv

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    Oct 27, 2012 9:38 AM GMT
    I am a Christian. I found solace in the Church as a kid with alcoholic parents and drug addict brothers. I found love and acceptance in the church I attended. That was when I was a child. As an adult, that particular church and it's interpretation of Scripture would not accept me as I am today. It is sad. God doesn't hate. God, according to Scripture desires a personal relationship with mankind on an individual basis.

    There have been some very good discussions about the God of the Bible here. Of course there are those who sneer and interject comments meant to belittle others for their faith. I've always found it odd that a community that has been so abused would be so quick to belittle and emotionally abuse others (those who hold to a belief different from theirs).

    As for the "God hates f*gs" crowd, they are (in my perception and understanding of Scripture) not teaching theological truths. Nobody here says you have to believe what someone else believes. But I would think a mature, thinking person would have better things to do than to call someone names or belittle them because of something they believe.

    As for my relationship with God, it's between me and him. I don't have to parade my theological persuasion in front of a priest or anybody else.
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    Oct 27, 2012 9:41 AM GMT
    I am proud to be a Christian. And I believe God loves all of us. he may not love our sins but as long as we ask forgiveness, we'll be fine. He said he'll never forsake us or leave us alone. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:00 AM GMT
    There are many church members who do not affirm, take pride in, and promote diverse lifestyles. People have different paths. I think there is at least one valid path of life that does not include heterosexual monogamy.

    Am I proud to be a Christian? No.

    #1 The Bible has historical accuracy problems of great proportions.

    You can read my book, Insights on the Exodus, King David, and Jesus by Steefen or read my play Water Bearing Fish by Steefen.

    You can also read two books by Ralph Ellis: 1) King Jesus and 2) Jesus, King of Edessa.

    And if you're not motivated to read the three books above, read The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. You'll be motivated, then.

    #2 Because of the inaccuracies, the biblical notion of God is problematic.

    #3 One would think Christians would know what the soul is or what the human spirit is, yet, more than 75% of them do not know what human chakras are.
  • johnboy2211

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    Oct 27, 2012 4:53 PM GMT


    I also believe that if you somehow have fallen for the lies people call religion that you're extremely unintelligent.[/quote]

    It's a question of faith and belief (seeing beyond the easiest of truth - what's patently in your face and easily measurable) not a question of intelligence. I think this crazy myth about believers in God (in general) being a bunch of slack jawed hicks is the worst kind of social anti-religious B.S. I think most gays in general would be shocked to find out how many gay believers and gay Christians there are, and almost non of them slack jawed, and many of them probably in the top 5% of educational levels (with advanced degrees from top universities). My favorite collection of gay "Catholics" (Christians) is the community church right off the Castro in SF. Check it out some time, it's eye opening since most of the congregation is comprised of gay and lesbian Christians. Go figure? I guess we'll just "assume" they've "all fallen for the lies people call religion."
  • thatirishbast...

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    Oct 27, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
    I was raised Irish Catholic, which means I don't know if God exists but I know the Holy Father is infallible.
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    Oct 27, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
    McQueen saidI also believe that if you somehow have fallen for the lies people call religion that you're extremely unintelligent.


    It doesn't surprise me to see so much hate, pride, shame, and anger in here.

    It'd like to specifically address McQueen. I think you are somewhat right, that if people fall for lies, they are extremely unintelligent, however the same could be said for religion, politics and almost every aspect of life. (Like those infomercials that make so many promises)

    The religous nuts who believe anything they hear, yeah they border on extremely unintelligent (Again, the same could be said of politics. You all know who I mean), but the people who really read and learn for themselves, they are the good ones. There is a difference between blindly following, and learning and applying.

    There are many contradictions in the bible, so obviously, nothing can be taken at face value. Only by learning everything, and focusing on the main themes, love and acceptance, can religious be not only okay, but helpful to people. Like politics, family, or friends, religion can be a good outlet for people to share their opinions and views.

    Never let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Thats how such hate forms between different groups.
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    If you read my profile, I guess you'll get a sense of where I'm coming from. icon_biggrin.gif
    In a nutshell, I'm quite content with being a Christian who happens to be gay, as for being proud...
    St. Paul (Gal 6:14)May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
    TerraFirma saidIf you read my profile, I guess you'll get a sense of where I'm coming from. icon_biggrin.gif
    In a nutshell, I'm quite content with being a Christian who happens to be gay, as for being proud...
    St. Paul (Gal 6:14)May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.


    So you're too good to boast? ;)
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    philly829 said
    calibro saidthe old testament god seemed to hate a lot of peeps


    I was thinking the same thing! He's always telling people to kill all the men, women, and children, sometimes even all the animals too. People want to get picky and take the good parts while leaving the bad. Religion isn't a buffet.



    meh, it was an off week for him......
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
    WaytoDawn saidNever let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Thats how such hate forms between different groups.
    The existence of a Christian god is the biggest lie they tell.
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
    People that label themselves as "Christian" are usually the biggest pieces of shit.....................icon_sad.gif
  • Aodhan

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    Oct 27, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
    thatirishbastard saidI was raised Irish Catholic, which means I don't know if God exists but I know the Holy Father is infallible.



    hahahhaha same as that-Irish-Bastard hahahha
    I do believe in God, just not the religion set up of Christianity and how much hate there is
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:53 PM GMT
    I'm christian, with a small c as there is much christianity has to atone for.

    ...and I married an atheist. icon_wink.gif

    -Doug
  • Shark100

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    Oct 27, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    Regardless to which denomination you belong, it is important that, if you believe in God truly believe that he loves you, he gave us the opportunity to be closer to him and do what is good, it is clearly stated in the ten commandments and it does not only apply for Christians, Muslims, Jewish, in general it applies for everyone.

    Now I cannot prove that He does exist, but if I I deny him, I have lost everything including the possibility to have eternal life.

    Gay life means for some people that God does not love you because you are a sinner, I disagree, I am gay not because I decided to be, and because I am gay = sinner, it does not give me license to practice other sins,thinking that "anyway I am going to hell", the problem here is that even when we accept that we are gay, we have to remember that there are limits, including inappropriate sexual behavior (fornication, group sex, etc), to what I see is the mayor problem with most of gay people.

    Forget about gay as as sin, try to keep a Christian life by helping others and giving a good example to the society. Love your family and friends and also honor you parents. God is not asking for perfection, he is asking to look at him as a way to make your life more meaningful.
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    Oct 27, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    McQueen said
    WaytoDawn saidNever let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Thats how such hate forms between different groups.
    The existence of a Christian god is the biggest lie they tell.


    To assume you know everything, or to assume anyone can know everything is just arrogant. The way you word your statement leads me to believe you think you have the answer, when I know you don't. There may be a god, there may not. I don't know everything, nor do I claim to. People find evidence for or against a reason, so there never really is an objective opinion to look at all the details and say if there is or isn't a god.

    I find it easier to believe that everything was made a certain way than to believe everything just magically came together. There may not be a christian god, but there may be a god.

    Again, this is just all my opinions and views.