Obama: Does NOT Support Gay Marriage / Gay Rights

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    Oct 27, 2012 4:33 AM GMT
    In case you missed the headline: Obama: Does NOT Support Gay Marriage / Gay Rights

    Suckers.

    During a live interview today inside the White House, President Obama told MTV viewers that when it comes to same-sex marriage and climate change, it would be up to future generations of Americans to implement meaningful reforms.

    When asked if he would use his second term as a platform to overturn the federal ban on gay marriage, the president demurred, saying he viewed it as an issue for the states to decide.

    "For us to try to legislate federally into this area is probably the wrong way to go," Obama told MTV presenter Sway Calloway, who asked questions submitted by youth voters.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/obama-ramps-media-blitz-race-tightens/story?id=17571200
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2012 4:43 AM GMT
    That's probably because the courts will decide it. Obama personally supports gay marriage, and he'll appoint gay friendly justices.

    Romney's much more actively fighting gay rights. He morally opposes us and would appoint judges who are anti gay.

    Even if you think Obama's not doing enough, at least he's not actively working against us, like Romney and the republican party.
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    Oct 27, 2012 5:09 AM GMT
    What happened to all the blather about "Marriage is a RIGHT, you don't delegate a RIGHT to the states."

    Oh, yeah, it's Obama screwing the gays, so different set of standards apply.

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    Oct 27, 2012 5:49 AM GMT
    Miserable?
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    Oct 27, 2012 5:52 AM GMT
    How...apathetic of him? I guess thats the word to use.

    I mean, I'm really not sure what to think. On the one hand, he isn't actively fighting it. But on the other hand, he knows that it's a right that no state should deny but is just standing there - fully aware of it.
  • GQjock

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    Oct 27, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    Ummmm .... this post exists because????

    As IF there was a better choice for gay men and women other than Obama and the Democratic party?

    Oh wait ... there's Romney and the republicans icon_eek.gif

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  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    IceBuckets saidHow...apathetic of him? I guess thats the word to use.

    I mean, I'm really not sure what to think. On the one hand, he isn't actively fighting it. But on the other hand, he knows that it's a right that no state should deny but is just standing there - fully aware of it.


    Not apathetic, maybe just hesitant???

    He said it's up to the next generation to make big changes, which implies that he supports and agrees with those changes...

    He's fighting a dirty a race and trying not to seem radical to independent voters.

    Romney has positioned himself against us, just like the OP, who calls us all suckers because he wants to see gay people fail.icon_mad.gif
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    Oct 27, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
    DontQuoteMe saidIn case you missed the headline: Obama: Does NOT Support Gay Marriage / Gay Rights

    Suckers.

    During a live interview today inside the White House, President Obama told MTV viewers that when it comes to same-sex marriage and climate change, it would be up to future generations of Americans to implement meaningful reforms.

    When asked if he would use his second term as a platform to overturn the federal ban on gay marriage, the president demurred, saying he viewed it as an issue for the states to decide.

    "For us to try to legislate federally into this area is probably the wrong way to go," Obama told MTV presenter Sway Calloway, who asked questions submitted by youth voters.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/obama-ramps-media-blitz-race-tightens/story?id=17571200




    C'mon now, Southbeach...I mean BostonJoe....I mean Don'tQuoteMe....I mean (insert temporary sock puppet account username here).....




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    Oct 27, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    Gay Rights

    Obama: Let the States decide.

    Romney: I will defend DOMA, I will fight against Gay-Rights on a federal level.


    Hmmm...so many things to look at here. Who is being the true conservative? Who is REALLY showing a disdain for homosexuality?

    This thread title is completely false, misleading, and ignorant.
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:38 PM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidGay Rights

    Obama: Let the States decide.

    Romney: I will defend DOMA, I will fight against Gay-Rights on a federal level.


    Hmmm...so many things to look at here. Who is being the true conservative? Who is REALLY showing a disdain for homosexuality?

    This thread title is completely false, misleading, and ignorant.


    BINGO.
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    LMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidLMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.


    If that's the position that all the conservatives have, then why has Romney stated he will do what he can to prevent marriage for gays on a federal level?


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    Oct 27, 2012 2:48 PM GMT
    DontQuoteMe saidWhat happened to all the blather about "Marriage is a RIGHT, you don't delegate a RIGHT to the states."

    Oh, yeah, it's Obama screwing the gays, so different set of standards apply.



    Yeah, that mysteriously vanished. When it comes out of the mouth of a conservative it's basically the gospel of hitler but when it comes out of the mouth of Obama, well, it's a new virtuous revelation!
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:49 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkles saidLMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.


    If that's the position that all the conservatives have, then why has Romney stated he will do what he can to prevent marriage for gays on a federal level?




    It's just semantics, because when all is said and done he has already stated clearly that if a state decides to implement gay marriage he won't go in and try to overturn that. So what's really the difference? We are already not recognized federally.

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    Oct 27, 2012 2:54 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    mocktwinkles saidLMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.


    If that's the position that all the conservatives have, then why has Romney stated he will do what he can to prevent marriage for gays on a federal level?




    It's just semantics, because when all is said and done he has already stated clearly that if a state decides to implement gay marriage he won't go in and try to overturn that. So what's really the difference? We are already not recognized federally.



    Nice excuse you made for Romney, and one then that can be applied to Obama as well. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:55 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkles said
    meninlove said
    mocktwinkles saidLMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.


    If that's the position that all the conservatives have, then why has Romney stated he will do what he can to prevent marriage for gays on a federal level?




    It's just semantics, because when all is said and done he has already stated clearly that if a state decides to implement gay marriage he won't go in and try to overturn that. So what's really the difference? We are already not recognized federally.



    Nice excuse you made for Romney, and one then that can be applied to Obama as well. icon_lol.gif


    Except the country could use a change.
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    Oct 27, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    Mock said, "Except the country could use a change."

    Change for the sake of change is not very bright.

    Romney has signed the NOM pledge, and if he gets in they will hold him to it, loudly and publicly with a signed document.

    " The NOM pledge commits signatories to fight for "a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage, to appoint federal judges who don’t see a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, and to back the Defense of Marriage Act" should they be elected to the office of the presidency. "
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:05 PM GMT
    meninlove said Mock said, "Except the country could use a change."

    Change for the sake of change is not very bright.

    Romney has signed the NOM pledge, and if he gets in they will hold him to it, loudly and publicly with a signed document.

    " The NOM pledge commits signatories to fight for "a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage, to appoint federal judges who don’t see a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, and to back the Defense of Marriage Act" should they be elected to the office of the presidency. "


    Well, Romney's "anti-gay" veneer hasn't been the sturdiest. Just look at this record...Secretly giving marriage licenses to over 180 gay couples doesn't sound like a whole lot of "anti-gay" conviction to me!
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:09 PM GMT
    BTW, by "change" I meant economic change.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
    mocktwinkles saidLMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.


    No, that's not the same position that Romney/Ryan have.

    You must really enjoy being oppressed, because you mock and laugh at those of us who are actually pushing for equality.
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:30 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkles saidLMAO, the same position that virtually all the conservatives have: Let the states decide.

    And people thought he was the messiah...aww, keep looking.


    No, that's not the same position that Romney/Ryan have.

    You must really enjoy being oppressed, because you mock and laugh at those of us who are actually pushing for equality.


    Yes it is [rhetoric aside], in ESSENCE, the same position.

    FYI, I push and strive for marriage equality whenever possible. According to your philosophy, Obama is PART of the oppression by believing the issue should be left up to the states to decide.
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:33 PM GMT

    Actually HottJoe, what I'm observing are conservatives on here, including the many obvious sock accounts, exhibiting a dis-associative state.
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    Oct 27, 2012 3:34 PM GMT
    Mock said, "Yes it is [rhetoric aside], in ESSENCE, the same position. "

    Now don't be disappointing me with lies mock; leave that to the socks. All of us have google.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 27, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    I look forward to a Romney/Ryan administration during which I believe we will see gay rights move forward, NOT backwards, and put away this silly notion once and for all that Republicans will be bad for the gays. know, I know, Romney has stated he wants a constitution amendment banning gay marriage. Fine, he can want this until the cows come home but that doesn't mean he is going to get it. I also think that Romney will have far bigger fish to fry in his first term than anything at all gay-related. The courts and congress will be deciding all these issues and I believe the main criteria in the end will be the constitution.
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    Oct 27, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI look forward to a Romney/Ryan administration during which I believe we will see gay rights move forward, NOT backwards, and put away this silly notion once and for all that Republicans will be bad for the gays. know, I know, Romney has stated he wants a constitution amendment banning gay marriage. Fine, he can want this until the cows come home but that doesn't mean he is going to get it. I also think that Romney will have far bigger fish to fry in his first term than anything at all gay-related. The courts and congress will be deciding all these issues and I believe the main criteria in the end will be the constitution.


    How exactly will gay rights move forward under a Romney administration? And I'm not talking about something decided by the Supreme Court, but by what action will Romney take to move them forward.

    With Obama, I have seen him sign the repeal of DADT, forcing hospitals that receiving federal funding to grant visitation rights for same-sex partners, and more...

    http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality

    No previous administration has done this much, and an administration under Romney will certainly roll some of these back.